India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[DownWithCCP]

@Sehwag213
this guy seems to be fake, he was peddling the whole green light story for about 2 months and seems to put out his version of things after everything happens

 

[A chauhan]

I am thinking about Porkies who are lurking here to see us in fear but seeing else must be giving them shivers as they are next...

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

SFF officially does not exist. Casualty was due to an old (1962) landmine blast.

If you believe that. Difference of opinion

 

[Prakshepak]

Don't count on that. Those H-6 bombers in Kashgar and Hotan are not for show. They can carry the air launched version of the CJ-10 cruise missile with a range of ~1500 km and a CEP of 10 meters. And satellite images indicate at least 8 parked at each of these PLAAF bases.

Those H-6 could be large ducks for AAM. So depends if IAF can dominate airspace with superior tactics and equipment. If I am not mistaken, Chinese pilot are trained like soviet pilots and are under control of some central controller directing them and are much less independent.

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Watch the discussion i had posted Nitin with Two Air Marshal how one clearly said chinese use their airforce as show of strategic power , how they park deliberately 10-12 aircrafts in line so that enemy can pick it up from satellite image and feel worried about the deployment . Have you seen ever we parking 10 fighters in a line in any forward base in open/ Check their hotan base image you will see 20-25 parked in one straight line at one point . Strategic coercion is what they do first . Off course they will use their fighters and bombers when shit hits the roof , That is why i wish we had more air defence options in Leh and other areas today to protect our bases.

Airforce weakest link of our military. They had no way to counter standoff cruise missile launched from there bombers , other than sam.

 

[LDev]

Watch the discussion i had posted Nitin with Two Air Marshal how one clearly said chinese use their airforce as show of strategic power , how they park deliberately 10-12 aircrafts in line so that enemy can pick it up from satellite image and feel worried about the deployment . Have you seen ever we parking 10 fighters in a line in any forward base in open/ Check their hotan base image you will see 20-25 parked in one straight line at one point . Strategic coercion is what they do first . Off course they will use their fighters and bombers when shit hits the roof , That is why i wish we had more air defence options in Leh and other areas today to protect our bases.

I watched that Nitin Gokhale broadcast, very informative. What the Air Marshal said was that his assessment based on the the kind of platforms inducted into the PLAAF is that they are big into "no contact warfare" i..e stand off long range missiles etc. So yes, the PLAAF is for posturing before a war, but if a war does break out their tactics will be for stand off long range warfare.

 

[Tumba]

If shit hits the fan its of great strategic interest for India for generations to come to finally leave no way for chinis to sikkim a sword strike to north from Bhutan will make sure of it let the remaining chini forces in doklam go into a cage.

 

[Prakshepak]

I watched that Nitin Gokhale broadcast, very informative. What the Air Marshal said was that his assessment based on the the kind of platforms inducted into the PLAAF is that they are big into "no contact warfare" i..e stand off long range missiles etc. So yes, the PLAAF is for posturing before a war, but if a war does break out their tactics will be for stand off long range warfare.

In that case I hope we have those AWACS killers missiles... take out those H-6s from standoff range

 

[LDev]

Those H-6 could be large ducks for AAM. So depends if IAF can dominate airspace with superior tactics and equipment. If I am not mistaken, Chinese pilot are trained like soviet pilots and are under control of some central controller directing them and are much less independent.

If the H-6s are used only as cruise missiles carriers they can fire off those CJ-10s while still overhead Kashgar which is about 600-700 km from Ladakh. Because the CJ-10 range even if fired from Kashgar is enough to reach well within India. So for India to neutralize them, the IAF will have to launch strikes on Kashgar and Hotan airfields and destroy them on the ground pre-emptively.

 

[fire starter]

 

[Tumba]

Airforce weakest link of our military. They had no way to counter standoff cruise missile launched from there bombers , other than sam.

thr is no way to counter long range cruise missile strike... only counter with little chance of success if SAM or AAM... but one thing more to notice the payload carried by LaCM if not for strategic targets is little and of nouse.

 

[TheSaffron]

 

[sachincba]

I bet Pakistan will readily enter the fray if China starts any misadventure. Porkies are idiot and will think that this is the time India is weakest. let us go for kill.
They are idiots after all.

 

[TheSaffron]

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Do we have enough to counter this?

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

thr is no way to counter long range cruise missile strike... only counter with little chance of success if SAM or AAM... but one thing more to notice the payload carried by LaCM if not for strategic targets is little and of nouse.

My point is that iaf never tried to get bombers from russia. Thats the counter . They were offered way back but as usual you know very well how MOD works.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Those H-6 could be large ducks for AAM. So depends if IAF can dominate airspace with superior tactics and equipment. If I am not mistaken, Chinese pilot are trained like soviet pilots and are under control of some central controller directing them and are much less independent.

Also managing 10m CEP in ladakh is gonna be tough for the chinese..

 

[Sehwag213]

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@Sehwag213
this guy seems to be fake, he was peddling the whole green light story for about 2 months and seems to put out his version of things after everything happens

He has been right. Modi gave greenlight the day CDS told military operations are on table. Even @Hellfire confirmed this on 27th Aug

 

[Tumba]

I bet Pakistan will readily enter the fray if China starts any misadventure. Porkies are idiot and will think that this is the time India is weakest. let us go for kill.
They are idiots after all.

they sure r... they gonna get surprise of modernised T-72 and T-90 cutting into heart of panjab and sindh if they try to play khota to chinis in J&K... lets make sure Kartarpur is captured this time ... before the ceasefire is called And LOC is straightened a bit.

 

[Brood Father]

I bet Pakistan will readily enter the fray if China starts any misadventure. Porkies are idiot and will think that this is the time India is weakest. let us go for kill.
They are idiots after all.

Why to wait for them to attack ..attack them now ..those fuckers don't deserve to exist

 

[ezsasa]

If the H-6s are used only as cruise missiles carriers they can fire off those CJ-10s while still overhead Kashgar which is about 600-700 km from Ladakh. Because the CJ-10 range even if fired from Kashgar is enough to reach well within India. So for India to neutralize them, the IAF will have to launch strikes on Kashgar and Hotan airfields and destroy them on the ground pre-emptively.

where do MR-SAM & S-400 fit into this scenario?