India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[TheSaffron]

My Chinese freind told me..
first rule of salami slicing - Never accept it

and vehemently deny it

 

[captscooby81]

Also stop celebrating too much , We are yet to see the PLA reaction we are just making moves and they are getting caught off guard . Don't even have a doubt they will come back with plan to counter attack and it can be anything using airforce to rockets they won't simply play the game by the book like we expect , We used infantry they will use infantry type stuff .

This is going to be a long drawn issue going to run into months small victories matter but stop belittling your enemy stop mocking him as someone who can't fight this will only give a rude shock of depression for the cheer leaders today .

i had sat through TV for whole 2 months and saw kargil day by day i know how quickly things turn from moment of happiness to sadness to again moment of happiness

Be prepared to face the sad part of the game too .

 

[sachincba]

I think one of the major drawbacks of quick excitement over internet is lack of long term vision. We can have an actual two front war in near future. And it will not be all happy. We may see battles won and lost. There is no need to think ourselves as macho. And when the war comes, strength is only one aspect. But, we will fight well. And the war will be good for India.
Satyamev Jayate !

 

[Sehwag213]

 

[LDev]

.I feel India is a bit week on the AD side but missile war is unlikely to happen

Don't count on that. Those H-6 bombers in Kashgar and Hotan are not for show. They can carry the air launched version of the CJ-10 cruise missile with a range of ~1500 km and a CEP of 10 meters. And satellite images indicate at least 8 parked at each of these PLAAF bases.

 

[TheSaffron]

Traditional Indian head shakes versus Chinese poker-face. Who wins?

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Shots have been fired , they were fired in galwan , they were fired 29/30. We had casualties . Chinese have way more causalities

 

[TheSaffron]

Shots have been fired , they were fired in galwan , they were fired 29/30. We had casualties . Chinese have way more causalities

Fifteen dead virgin Han sissies.

 

[DownWithCCP]

Shots have been fired , they were fired in galwan , they were fired 29/30. We had casualties . Chinese have way more causalities

Wasn't the Galwan death attributed to an accident and what are your sources that said firing took place at Galwan on 29/30?

 

[Tumba]

Don't count on that. Those H-6 bombers in Kashgar and Hotan are not for show. They can carry the air launched version of the CJ-10 cruise missile with a range of ~1500 km and a CEP of 10 meters. And satellite images indicate at least 8 parked at each of these PLAAF bases.

India will have to absorb long range hits from Chinese and try to give Mach 3 Brahmos as return gift to chinese C4s deployed nearby... hitting with Ballistic Missiles wont be appropriate unless chinese starts using thr short/medium range conventional strategic missiles

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Wasn't the Galwan death attributed to an accident and what are your sources that said firing took place at Galwan on 29/30?

No i was talking of galwan incident where sone of our boys had bullet marks. 29/30 august action is still ongoing . Not much information besides military people dont generally answer questions in simple language. An example bhadra sir

 

[shankyz]

Shots have been fired , they were fired in galwan , they were fired 29/30. We had casualties . Chinese have way more causalities

Indian Army does not hide casualties.

The one above (Captain Thapa) was due to an IFV trailer accident , not due to any skirmish with the PLA.

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Fifteen dead virgin Han sissies.

Not sure about the numbers but my sources that LMG and small arms were used , most probably as a warning sign when chinese try to take back the heights

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Indian Army does not hide casualties.

The one above (Captain Thapa) was due to an IFV trailer accident , not due to any skirmish with the PLA.

Ofcourse. Did i say that it was 29/30. ? Sff had 1 KIA and many injured but only few serious.

 

[fire starter]

 

[Tumba]

I think one of the major drawbacks of quick excitement over internet is lack of long term vision. We can have an actual two front war in near future. And it will not be all happy. We may see battles won and lost. There is no need to think ourselves as macho. And when the war comes, strength is only one aspect. But, we will fight well. And the war will be good for India.
Satyamev Jayate !

true that, Major war is right on our door, a first in 2 generations... and its going be ugly the ones who are not fighting need to contribute smthin from our ends, money materials or any civilian services to Military forces ....

Our braves will fight for Dharm for our Mother land from hate and aggression ,...
any one giving ultimate sacrifice will achieve regions difficult to be achieved even by Rishis of great Tapobal and the martial brave victors will be celebrated as Heros for rest of thr lives...

 

[BabaKhalbali]

GD Bakshi like always doing thain thain thain...

 

[LDev]

China is now on a rampage , the way it threatened EU countries in the press conference is very interesting.
What surprises me though the relative softer attitude against India atleast in media briefing
Why that could be ..for one reason China only wants India to know it's place but in overall theatre it wants to work with India . Or China is looking for exit face saving strategy from Laddhak. India not only stood up to China but also pushed them back .

Simple. The EU countries are thousands of km from China so no danger of an immediate war. With India there could be a war at any time. And in the event of a war with India, anything short of a comprehensive Chinese victory will be a defeat for China. Even if an India China war ends in a stalemate it will demolish the carefully built up posture of China as a hulking military superpower. China would still like to defeat India without fighting an actual war.

 

[shankyz]

Ofcourse. Did i say that it was 29/30. ? Sff had 1 KIA and many injured but only few serious.

SFF officially does not exist. Casualty was due to an old (1962) landmine blast.

 

[captscooby81]

Watch the discussion i had posted Nitin with Two Air Marshal how one clearly said chinese use their airforce as show of strategic power , how they park deliberately 10-12 aircrafts in line so that enemy can pick it up from satellite image and feel worried about the deployment . They did same at time of Dokla standoff too . Have you ever seen we parking 10 fighters in a line in any forward base in open/ Check their hotan base image you will see 20-25 parked in one straight line at one point . Strategic coercion is what they do first .

Off course they will use their fighters and bombers when shit hits the roof , That is why i wish we had more air defence options in Leh and other areas today to protect our bases.

Don't count on that. Those H-6 bombers in Kashgar and Hotan are not for show. They can carry the air launched version of the CJ-10 cruise missile with a range of ~1500 km and a CEP of 10 meters. And satellite images indicate at least 8 parked at each of these PLAAF bases.