India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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Bhadra

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Yes, standards are same for everyone....coaching mostly works if you want to develop physical strength to clear 10 obstacle test.....it was during my time but it was not hard to begin with. As you said, physical strength is not given huge weight. Medical can get you out....and most heart breaking
You got it entirely wrong mate... no one is interested in your physical standards... your physical fitness is the job of Medical Specailistist who would check you afterward..

Ten obstacle test is meant to see your courage, risk-taking tendencies, motivation, eagerness to carry out your a given task, your mental traits, your logic, sequencing, your reactions on the failures, your determination, and your overall attitude and personality which is best adjusted spontaneously on a ground task.

People get it all wrong.. no one is looking if you are a Phalwan or not..
 

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this article says china ll send 300 fighter jets at a time in NE sky .We wont have enough option to counter that then bomb indian army . They ll suffer some loss but this number can surpass any airdefence we have ...
after that ground attack ll follow. chicken neck ll be taken over and NE ll be detached and then india ll surrender :laugh: As we have no nuclear 1st use policy ... Whats you guys think abt it .

India will preempt if it sees a threat like that.
 

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this article says china ll send 300 fighter jets at a time in NE sky .We wont have enough option to counter that then bomb indian army . They ll suffer some loss but this number can surpass any airdefence we have ...
after that ground attack ll follow. chicken neck ll be taken over and NE ll be detached and then india ll surrender :laugh: As we have no nuclear 1st use policy ... Whats you guys think abt it .

Using 300 aircrafts is a pretty staging numbers at a same time and place. Nothing but a day dream of the Melcchas. Dont give any head ways to their Propaganda. :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:
 

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You got it entirely wrong mate... no one is interested in your physical standards... your physical fitness is the job of Medical Specailistist who would check you afterward..

Ten obstacle test is meant to see your courage, risk-taking tendencies, motivation, eagerness to carry out your a given task, your mental traits, your logic, sequencing, your reactions on the failures, your determination, and your overall attitude and personality which is best adjusted spontaneously on a ground task.

People get it all wrong.. no one is looking if you are a Phalwan or not..
I cleared it, rejected in medical....every event in that has certain points including obstacle test.
 

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this article says china ll send 300 fighter jets at a time in NE sky .We wont have enough option to counter that then bomb indian army . They ll suffer some loss but this number can surpass any airdefence we have ...
after that ground attack ll follow. chicken neck ll be taken over and NE ll be detached and then india ll surrender :laugh: As we have no nuclear 1st use policy ... Whats you guys think abt it .

Did the author watch 'Tora Tora Tora' before he began typing that article?
 

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Using 300 aircrafts is a pretty staging numbers at a same time and place. Nothing but a day dream of the Melcchas. Dont give any head ways to their Propaganda. :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound: :pound:
Typical squad is 12 to 18 in major airforces, that means it requires that many airbases? I don't think there are that many on the border to begin with....sounds like trolling.
 

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one of the most sensible, realistic and to the point article that i have read in last 3 months. this analysis is very deep and confirms with ground reality thats happening today.

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Chushul aggression is part of China’s plan. It wants to provoke India | Analysis



When then Defence Minister AK Antony returned from Beijing in July 2013, he was fascinated by the infrastructure development in China. He was rather intrigued how China was able to build straight roads unlike the ones that he had seen back home in India that yielded to hurdles in the way. At that point, Antony was told by his South Block advisers that in communist China, unlike India, buildings or any hurdles are uprooted to make way for the roads or highways. While Antony understood the message, it is time that a democratic India came to terms with the adversary at its doorstep in Ladakh.

For the past four months, the Indian Army has been on the razor’s edge to defend the 3,488-kilometre Line of Actual Control (LAC) from China’s aggressive People’s Liberation Army (PLA) from pursuing its 60-year-old agenda of imposing the 1960 cartographical expansion map of the then Chinese Premier Chou En-Lai on the ground in Ladakh. The situation is critical as the Indian Army cannot hold back the PLA forever by staring at the adversary. And the fear is that one bullet could lead to a huge escalation on the LAC. It is not that the Chinese Western Theatre Commander Zhao Zongqi or his communist party boss Xi Jinping do not understand the consequences. It is Zhongguo, the Middle Kingdom, in action with its wolf warriors attributing the current friction to the undefined nature of the India-China border despite 15 years of Special Representative dialogue to sort out the issue and a plethora of agreements and protocols.

The fact is that actions of paramount leader Xi Jinping such as consolidation of Hong Kong, sinification of Tibet, subjugation of Uighurs in Xinjiang and domination of the South China Sea all point to Fortress China, with India bearing the consequences in Ladakh. Clearly under the mask of the coronavirus disease that originated in Wuhan, communist party chief Xi is grabbing all that he wants to believe belongs to China and is not averse to use of military force to achieve his objective.

While ASEAN nations look to the US to shoulder the burden in the South China Sea against big brother China, India will have to carry the cross alone as it is surrounded by ally states of the Middle Kingdom.

A weak US President after the November elections will confirm the rise of China as a global superpower with a divided Europe in no position to act against Beijing but only talk tall. The UN Security Council is the other talk shop.
The many ramifications of India being a front-line state against China with three neighbours - Nepal, Pakistan and Myanmar - in a cosy relationship with Beijing is indeed disturbing. The Indian task becomes humongous with the Chinese United Front Work Department under XI Jinping making serious inroads into the country through individuals and organisations. This department, which reports directly to the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, not only gathers intelligence but also ensures that potential critics of Beijing remain divided throughout the world. While the current government under Narendra Modi has the numbers in Parliament to deal with a resurgent Middle Kingdom, a weak government in Delhi on a future date will decimate the resistance to Beijing.

From the current events in Ladakh, it is quite clear that China wants to activate the entire LAC and provoke India into a reaction or cow down in submission through use of psychological warfare, spreading discontent through its ideological brothers and finally, use of brute military force. Xi Jinping clearly believes in taking all that the past rulers of the forbidden city had fantastically claimed.

Given the bleak scenario, it is important that the Modi government ensures that only the competent and meritorious are placed at the top in military, diplomacy, intelligence and a bureaucracy that works in silos. A democratic India is already handicapped in dealing with a single-agenda China and a seniority based leadership will only deepen the crisis. The last thing that India wants to see is a divided military that embarrasses the nation through leaks to settle personal scores, an intelligence organisation that prepares only reports and a diplomacy that does not have teeth. The saving grace is that some of India’s best minds are handling national security today at the apex level who respect rising China, but are not afraid of it.

For long, India has been sitting on the fence without taking any stand on global issues. This was valid in the past as India did not have the heft or the gravitas to get the global ear. Hence, it would often not take positions as it had to take into account politicians who were still living in the erstwhile Soviet era or a Cold war side-show called the non-aligned movement. Coronavirus has changed the world forever. India must change or bear the consequences.
 

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China is now on a rampage , the way it threatened EU countries in the press conference is very interesting.
What surprises me though the relative softer attitude against India atleast in media briefing
Why that could be ..for one reason China only wants India to know it's place but in overall theatre it wants to work with India . Or China is looking for exit face saving strategy from Laddhak. India not only stood up to China but also pushed them back .
 

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Typical squad is 12 to 18 in major airforces, that means it requires that many airbases? I don't think there are that many on the border to begin with....sounds like trolling.
Ya'll Nibbiars Where are the Melccha Air Force going to park 15 sauadrons. On some tibetan plateau. And say Pikkau au Akbarr.... to fly typically Melccha Mentality. :pound: :pound: :pound:
 

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Interesting as per Shook laaa article he is saying IA has division of special forces , Division is what 10,000 soldiers in IA ? do we have so many special forces in IA ?

@Bhadra @Mikesingh @hammer head your inputs please .
Skukla is right... He can not be wrong in everything damn it ! In order to peddle believable nonsense, you need a lot of work and knowledge..

SFF has Seven battalions, plus some other elements... so that makes it almost a division in size.. but SFF does not work as a division,,,

When you say a division in military parlance it means a formation organized of military units meant to carry out certain military task collectively or combiningly in a certain manner.. say for example a mountain Division is capable of marching up to 20km in two days and capture an area held by an enemy brigade being self-contained and self-sufficient for five days.

SFF that way is not a division but is capable of doing much more than that... it is essentially a guerrilla Special Force cable of being airborne for tasks behind enemy lines. However, given a structure and shape of a division with all support elements... why not. It can also be a division.. all their units are capable of being part of any army formation.
 

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The article says 300 to 400 aircrafts 😂 . Not just 300 .
Tell that Melccha to jap this mantra before their great air operation by every melcchas:
yeh mantar jaroor japana
pikachu-tala ki duaa hampe hamesha barasti rahe,o pikagamber !
Pika hu akbarr!

Every Melcchas aircraft will fly without ATF fuel. :troll:
 

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Tell that Melccha to jap this mantra before their great air operation by every melcchas:
yeh mantar jaroor japana
pikachu-tala ki duaa hampe hamesha barasti rahe,o pikagamber !
Pika hu akbarr!

Every Melcchas aircraft will fly without ATF fuel. :troll:
No its not a mlechaa it just another indian defence expert obsessed with Age of empire computer game .
 
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