India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[omaebakabaka]

India-China border dispute thread. People are discussing Economy, Ramayan, Mahabharat etc etc.

Bhaiyya, dharm aur adharm yudh hone wala hai.....India vs China. Its all good

 

[omaebakabaka]

Trips and summits happen followed by escalations.....lets see

 

[Knowitall]

guys please get back on top topic post updates if you can.

 

[Cactus09]

Great move by Kadi Ninda

 

[Gautam Sarkar]

Bhaiyya, dharm aur adharm yudh hone wala hai.....India vs China. Its all good

Woh sab toh thik hai, mujhe koi problem nahi. Par humko heart attack kahe de rahe ho ? Har second alert a raha hai, main soch raha hu ab kya hogaya?

Koi aur thread hoga forum me Mahabharat ke liye.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Great move by Kadi Ninda

Yeah, China is trapped. If they use excessive force then Japan and Korea will have justification to do massive build up and US will deploy IRBM's in Asia. They will beg for meeting later on.

 

[Indrajit]

Chinese bullets kill Tibetan soldier, injure one, in border clash .:. Tibet Sun

A Tibetan soldier of Company Leader rank has been reportedly killed, and his junior injured, by Chinese bullets at India's northern border in Ladakh...

www.tibetsun.com

Chinese bullets kill Tibetan soldier, injure one, in border clash

View of Panggong Lake in Ladakh, north India, on 9 July 2014.File photo/Tibet Sun/Lobsang Wangyal

Tibet Sun Online News

ON THE WEB, 1 September 2020
A Tibetan soldier of Company Leader rank has been reportedly killed, and his junior injured, by Chinese bullets at India’s northern border in Ladakh region while they were on patrol duty, according to sources.
Company Leader Nyima Tenzin, 51, was reportedly killed by a gunshot in the neck. He is said to be from the Tibetan settlement in Choglamsar near Ladakh’s capital Leh, and had 33 years of service. The injured man is Tenzin Loden, 24, also from Choglamsar settlement. The incident took place on Saturday night.
Both men were from the 7th battalion of the Special Frontier Force (SFF), also known as Establishment 22, which is a unit made up of Tibetans under the Indian army. Within the Indian army the Tibetan unit is known as the “Vikas battalion”.
The incessant move by Chinese soldiers to occupy border areas perceived by India as its own territory has left the two sides in ongoing confrontation. The situation intensified in June after Chinese soldiers killed 20 Indian solders in a hand-to-hand battle on the disputed border.
Months of military and diplomatic dialogue trying to persuade Beijing to withdraw its troops from the border incursion have failed to produce any results.
On Sunday hundreds of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers crossed into the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC) south of Panggong lake, occupied a hill called Helmet Top and began building fortifications.
Tibetan soldiers stationed at the nearby Thakung post intervened to prevent the PLA soldiers from building. Physical clashes followed that left dozens of Chinese soldiers injured. There were no reports of firing at the site.
PLA soldiers are now reportedly occupying Helmet Top, as well as nearby Black Top, both of which are on the Indian side of the LAC. These hilltop spots are said to be vantage points for Chinese soldiers to observe and track Indian movements across Panggong lake and as far as India’s tactically vital Chushul garrison.
Indian authorities have been keeping silent about a counter-operation by the SFF soldiers launched on Sunday night. An SFF detachment is reported to have occupied key heights that China claims as their own.
On Monday, the Indian army in a press release said, “On the night of 29/30 August, PLA troops violated the consensus arrived at during military and diplomatic engagements… and carried out provocative military movements to change the status quo.
“Indian troops pre-empted this PLA activity on the southern bank of Pangong Tso Lake, undertook measures to strengthen our positions and thwart Chinese intentions to unilaterally change facts on ground.”
A “flag meeting” — a meeting of commanders of both sides — is said to be in progress at a nearby Chushul post on the Indian side of the border to resolve the issues.
China on Monday accused the Indian Army of crossing the Line of Actual Control (LAC), blatantly provoking China by seriously infringing on China’s territorial sovereignty.
The Global Times, China’s official newspaper, in a provocative editorial wrote that if India would like a military showdown, the PLA is bound to make the Indian army suffer much more severe losses than it did in 1962.

 

[DownWithCCP]

Chinese bullets kill Tibetan soldier, injure one, in border clash .:. Tibet Sun

A Tibetan soldier of Company Leader rank has been reportedly killed, and his junior injured, by Chinese bullets at India's northern border in Ladakh...

www.tibetsun.com

Chinese bullets kill Tibetan soldier, injure one, in border clash

View of Panggong Lake in Ladakh, north India, on 9 July 2014.File photo/Tibet Sun/Lobsang Wangyal

Tibet Sun Online News

ON THE WEB, 1 September 2020
A Tibetan soldier of Company Leader rank has been reportedly killed, and his junior injured, by Chinese bullets at India’s northern border in Ladakh region while they were on patrol duty, according to sources.
Company Leader Nyima Tenzin, 51, was reportedly killed by a gunshot in the neck. He is said to be from the Tibetan settlement in Choglamsar near Ladakh’s capital Leh, and had 33 years of service. The injured man is Tenzin Loden, 24, also from Choglamsar settlement. The incident took place on Saturday night.
Both men were from the 7th battalion of the Special Frontier Force (SFF), also known as Establishment 22, which is a unit made up of Tibetans under the Indian army. Within the Indian army the Tibetan unit is known as the “Vikas battalion”.
The incessant move by Chinese soldiers to occupy border areas perceived by India as its own territory has left the two sides in ongoing confrontation. The situation intensified in June after Chinese soldiers killed 20 Indian solders in a hand-to-hand battle on the disputed border.
Months of military and diplomatic dialogue trying to persuade Beijing to withdraw its troops from the border incursion have failed to produce any results.
On Sunday hundreds of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers crossed into the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC) south of Panggong lake, occupied a hill called Helmet Top and began building fortifications.
Tibetan soldiers stationed at the nearby Thakung post intervened to prevent the PLA soldiers from building. Physical clashes followed that left dozens of Chinese soldiers injured. There were no reports of firing at the site.
PLA soldiers are now reportedly occupying Helmet Top, as well as nearby Black Top, both of which are on the Indian side of the LAC. These hilltop spots are said to be vantage points for Chinese soldiers to observe and track Indian movements across Panggong lake and as far as India’s tactically vital Chushul garrison.
Indian authorities have been keeping silent about a counter-operation by the SFF soldiers launched on Sunday night. An SFF detachment is reported to have occupied key heights that China claims as their own.
On Monday, the Indian army in a press release said, “On the night of 29/30 August, PLA troops violated the consensus arrived at during military and diplomatic engagements… and carried out provocative military movements to change the status quo.
“Indian troops pre-empted this PLA activity on the southern bank of Pangong Tso Lake, undertook measures to strengthen our positions and thwart Chinese intentions to unilaterally change facts on ground.”
A “flag meeting” — a meeting of commanders of both sides — is said to be in progress at a nearby Chushul post on the Indian side of the border to resolve the issues.
China on Monday accused the Indian Army of crossing the Line of Actual Control (LAC), blatantly provoking China by seriously infringing on China’s territorial sovereignty.
The Global Times, China’s official newspaper, in a provocative editorial wrote that if India would like a military showdown, the PLA is bound to make the Indian army suffer much more severe losses than it did in 1962.

idk about CKMKB PKMKB but these different, polar opposite stories make DimagKMKB

 

[Knowitall]

Chinese bullets kill Tibetan soldier, injure one, in border clash .:. Tibet Sun

A Tibetan soldier of Company Leader rank has been reportedly killed, and his junior injured, by Chinese bullets at India's northern border in Ladakh...

www.tibetsun.com

Chinese bullets kill Tibetan soldier, injure one, in border clash

View of Panggong Lake in Ladakh, north India, on 9 July 2014.File photo/Tibet Sun/Lobsang Wangyal

Tibet Sun Online News

ON THE WEB, 1 September 2020
A Tibetan soldier of Company Leader rank has been reportedly killed, and his junior injured, by Chinese bullets at India’s northern border in Ladakh region while they were on patrol duty, according to sources.
Company Leader Nyima Tenzin, 51, was reportedly killed by a gunshot in the neck. He is said to be from the Tibetan settlement in Choglamsar near Ladakh’s capital Leh, and had 33 years of service. The injured man is Tenzin Loden, 24, also from Choglamsar settlement. The incident took place on Saturday night.
Both men were from the 7th battalion of the Special Frontier Force (SFF), also known as Establishment 22, which is a unit made up of Tibetans under the Indian army. Within the Indian army the Tibetan unit is known as the “Vikas battalion”.
The incessant move by Chinese soldiers to occupy border areas perceived by India as its own territory has left the two sides in ongoing confrontation. The situation intensified in June after Chinese soldiers killed 20 Indian solders in a hand-to-hand battle on the disputed border.
Months of military and diplomatic dialogue trying to persuade Beijing to withdraw its troops from the border incursion have failed to produce any results.
On Sunday hundreds of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers crossed into the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC) south of Panggong lake, occupied a hill called Helmet Top and began building fortifications.
Tibetan soldiers stationed at the nearby Thakung post intervened to prevent the PLA soldiers from building. Physical clashes followed that left dozens of Chinese soldiers injured. There were no reports of firing at the site.
PLA soldiers are now reportedly occupying Helmet Top, as well as nearby Black Top, both of which are on the Indian side of the LAC. These hilltop spots are said to be vantage points for Chinese soldiers to observe and track Indian movements across Panggong lake and as far as India’s tactically vital Chushul garrison.
Indian authorities have been keeping silent about a counter-operation by the SFF soldiers launched on Sunday night. An SFF detachment is reported to have occupied key heights that China claims as their own.
On Monday, the Indian army in a press release said, “On the night of 29/30 August, PLA troops violated the consensus arrived at during military and diplomatic engagements… and carried out provocative military movements to change the status quo.
“Indian troops pre-empted this PLA activity on the southern bank of Pangong Tso Lake, undertook measures to strengthen our positions and thwart Chinese intentions to unilaterally change facts on ground.”
A “flag meeting” — a meeting of commanders of both sides — is said to be in progress at a nearby Chushul post on the Indian side of the border to resolve the issues.
China on Monday accused the Indian Army of crossing the Line of Actual Control (LAC), blatantly provoking China by seriously infringing on China’s territorial sovereignty.
The Global Times, China’s official newspaper, in a provocative editorial wrote that if India would like a military showdown, the PLA is bound to make the Indian army suffer much more severe losses than it did in 1962.

bullets?

i heard multiple people say its bullets but the official position is landmine.

 

[TheSaffron]

The Hans have been outfoxed by Fauj-e-Hind. Their oversized ego will not allow them to digest this defeat easily. Xi is in an unenviable position. Damned if he does something, damned if he doesn't. The chances of defeat in a localized conflict are significantly high for the Chinese. Modi is in no mood of giving Xi any room for maneuver. No face saving option for the Chinese Emperor. Little Han princelings with their girly and churlish demeanour might be great at shooting their fellow unarmed countrymen but are no match to the martial spirit of the chad Hindus. Bloodbath hasn't even begun and the yellow-bellied pole strokers are already crying rivers. वीर भोग्य वसुंधरा

 

[DownWithCCP]

Hmm this is getting serious, do you think PLA will ignore the warning or pay heed to it?, especially after reports that said Beijing is angry with its local commanders for the recent incidents

 

[dumdumdum]

Krishna, Pandav, Dharm, Adharm, UPSC ...IS there anything related to China left to be discussed in this thread?

 

[omaebakabaka]

Krishna, Pandav, Dharm, Adharm, UPSC ...IS there anything related to China left to be discussed in this thread?

Yes, tandhrakho bhai....it ended.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Hmm this is getting serious, do you think PLA will ignore the warning or pay heed to it?, especially after reports that said Beijing is angry with its local commanders for the recent incidents

Love it, loud and clear. Offence posture is the only way forward regardless of the result with chincoms.

 

[TheSaffron]

 

[Sehwag213]

Krishna, Pandav, Dharm, Adharm, UPSC ...IS there anything related to China left to be discussed in this thread?

Just wait for few days. Even IPL will be discussed here

 

[Sarjen]

Konkurs or Kornet rather

did we not buy limited numbers of ATGM form Israel ???

 

[Tuco]

Our FM said "we will bring forth capabilities in areas which Chinese doesn't know off". What does this mean? What capabilities?

 

[tigerhill]

Hi guys
Back after a while
Take my views for what they are worth

In all probability shots have been fired.
India hold a huge advantage all across the LAC. And there is no chance that we are backing down. Rather the thought process is to reverse some of the 62 losses.
The indian leadership is of the firm opinion that standing up to China will galvanise the Indian population and the new generation will learn to never fear the chinese and the ghost/fear of 62 will be exorcised forever.
This in turn will lead to a renewed push by India in the years to come.


No facesaver to be given to China at any cost. They have a choice to fight or retreat. Fight kargil style and try to capture hill tops, or just go back home.
These hill tops have now been lost by them forever. No status quo ante.

 

[omaebakabaka]

did we not buy limited numbers of ATGM form Israel ???

We should have massive stocks of konkurs. and some of kornet. Both are well proven in conflicts.