India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Knowitall]

China reluctant to withdraw completely from Finger area, India firm on complete withdrawal

Man this looks too good to be true almost like these fuckers are planning something.

 

[nick_indian]

China reluctant to withdraw completely from Finger area, India firm on complete withdrawal

Still no word about Depsang ? Why is nobody focusing on Depsang still. Makes one wonder what's going on there.

 

[ARVION]

Still no word about Depsang ? Why is nobody focusing on Depsang still. Makes one wonder what's going on there.

This is happening in depsang
June photo's.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Man this looks too good to be true almost like these fuckers are planning something.

Chinese will not want to show weakness or defeat in anyway, I knew
nothing would come out of these talks.

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

News24 claiming as per the "sources" china agreed to move behind finger 8. But it also mentioned currently they are only moving till finger 8 do not want to go behind. So may be after this news came china may have agreed to move behind finger 8 who knows

 

[ARVION]

News24 claiming as per the "sources" china agreed to move behind finger 8. But it also mentioned currently they are only moving till finger 8 do not want to go behind. So may be china just agreed to move behind finger 8 who knows.

Cant believe.

 

[nick_indian]

News24 claiming as per the "sources" china agreed to move behind finger 8. But it also mentioned currently they are only moving till finger 8 do not want to go behind. So may be after this news came china may have agreed to move behind finger 8 who knows

IF they have agreed for that then what has India agreed for in return ? is the question.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

IF they have agreed for that then what has India agreed for in return ? is the question.

They will say one thing and do something else. Then later claim they never said
that.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

One never knows. Lot of Indian media is desperate as its dependant on Chinese consumer Co.s advertising revenue

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Holding back PLA at Depsang crucial

Some four weeks ago an important Division of the Indian Army had started acclimatising for high-altitude warfare and two weeks later, parts of it were deployed at the 18,000-foot-high Depsang plains, a plateau located north of the Galwan valley along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh .

www.tribuneindia.com

Holding back PLA at Depsang crucial

 

[LETHALFORCE]

India China border news: India pushes for PLA pullback at Pangong, Depsang in tough talks | India News - Times of India

India News: India and China discussed troop disengagement in the Depsang-Daulat Beg Oldie sector as well as a further pullback of Chinese soldiers in the Pangong

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

India pushes for PLA pullback at Pangong, Depsang in tough talks

 

[ARVION]

The PLAAF's at the a Losseses's.

The question is less whether the Rafale does well--I'd consider the Rafale doing well as shooting down some J-20s but rather whether or not the IAF's are emboldened by the Rafale.

As for general Rafale vs J-20; there's a lot of wild-cards there. The J-20 could be poorly piloted, i.e, being overly aggressively and the fact that the Rafale has IRST, and that the Meteor can be data-linked. The J-20, likewise, could be a less capable system than we expect, or the Rafale more capable (the J-20 wants to kill the Rafale BVR since WVR it'll likely be outmatched with its current engines).

And yeah, the Rafale, the entire PLAF's fodder for a combination of J-10s, J-11s, PL-10s, and PL-15s, provided the Chinese 4th gen's have .

You have to remember, that the PLAAF vs the IAF's in the area is bases vs technology; the IAF's can bring almost all of the force to bear vs China, while China has very few military airbases in the area with full stocks of munitions, spares, and so on.

It's literally the reverse of the typical PLAAF set-up where the PLAAF has to consider opponent qualitative advantages except in rare cases Su-30MKKs vs F-15Js for instance, there's no BVR superiority and the Su-30MKKs perform better BVR's. The only thing for the IAF's that could possibly even the scales would be the Rafale+Meteor combo, and the loss of a 5th generation aircraft vs a 4.5++ generation aircraft would be quite a blow to Chinese prestige and credibility.

 

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Yes, Deseclatione's is happening, The Chinese's are preparing for a war's.

They might get pummeled bare handed by Indian soldiers but that's slick PR and considering they are out there in middle of nowhere, definitely CCP propaganda machinery.

On the contrary we have a mature film industry with loads of artists and yet its a struggle to find decent videos or photographs of Indian armed forces and its equipments in actions bar some airshows or expo. We need to step up our social media game

 

[utubekhiladi]

China reluctant to withdraw completely from Finger area, India firm on complete withdrawal

i been screaming this all along, koi deescalation nahi hone wala.

 

[ARVION]

Getting report's of the later J 20 B's could be powered by a an WS-10B's engine's capable of producing 140 KN's. And here goes the WS 15's down the draine's. And it's getting by an trustee's source's PuPu.

 

[nick_indian]

i been screaming this all along, koi deescalation nahi hone wala.

Nitin Gokhale is saying that people will be surprised by the disengagement decided upon. Seems to be suggesting something positive. Again he is referring to only Pangong Tso though. No word on Depsang.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Getting report's of the later J 20 B's could be powered by a an WS-10B's engine's capable of producing 140 KN's. And here goes the WS 15's down the draine's. And it's getting by an trustee's source's PuPu.

Both of these engines are a POS.

 

[ARVION]

Both of these engines are a POS.

Well after the delay of Ws 15, J 20's can say good bye to supercruies's.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Well after the delay of Ws 15 J 20's can say good bye to supercruies's.

I don't believe anything about China being able to develop an engine or
claims of their capability.

 

[utubekhiladi]

looks like all lost members of this forum since 2010 are now back ..