India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[prasadr14]

As if we are going to give them. I think that border is final now as we are not going to accept any of their new claims. Chinese cant do any more salami slicing in new areas as long as modi govt is in power.

Why are you thinking we are accepting the current position?

 

[fire starter]

Why are you thinking we are accepting the current position?

i am talking about new claim line we already rejected their claim on galwan, threw them out of pp14. So Chinese are trying to cash in gains which they got till now.

 

[cereal killer]

That looks totally fake. Secret deployment lol

 

[Suryavanshi]

Two bridges

1438 km2 area the entire Despang Plain is at stake.

After this there are only mountains, ain't no Chinese got the guts to fight in the mountains.

Also the only place beside Demchok where Tanks can Operate.

 

[fire starter]

Two bridges

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1438 km2 area the entire Despang Plain is at stake.

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After this there are only mountains, ain't no Chinese got the guts to fight in the mountains.

Also the only place beside Demchok where Tanks can Operate.

These are Chinese bridges right?

 

[Suhaan]

That looks totally fake. Secret deployment lol

Do you certify that's fake?
Do they owe you something to reveal undercover deployments?
Wait for pleasant surprises,dont open your mouth while saying everything fake
Even if its fake ,so be it(heard psy ops,did ya?)

 

[Suryavanshi]

These are Chinese bridges right?

Seems like so.
It's hard to tell tho.

 

[Haldilal]

Seems like so.
It's hard to tell tho.

Are these bridges in CoL.

 

[cereal killer]

Do you certify that's fake?
Do they owe you something to reveal undercover deployments?
Wait for pleasant surprises,dont open your mouth while saying everything fake
Even if its fake ,so be it(heard psy ops,did ya?)

That isn't psy ops dude is trying to gain followers. There is a lot of difference between this & psyops.
Nobody has this level of intel in the first place. You feel free to believe it

 

[fire starter]

 

[Suhaan]

That isn't psy ops dude is trying to gain followers. There is a lot of difference between this & psyops.
Nobody has this level of intel in the first place. You feel free to believe it

Ahh there is difference,care to tell me the difference Mr?

 

[cereal killer]

Ahh there is difference,care to tell me the difference Mr?

Google is your friend

 

[garg_bharat]

IAF is making a serious mistake if it does not take American proposals seriously about fighter purchase.
India should go for a large number of second hand fighters from USA plus some new ones.

India should stop worrying about US presidential election outcome.
India should try to get maximum weapons systems from USA.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Talked about this long back but Bhadra sir shot me down.

But its definitely not a All weather road, that would require a tunnel to be constructed here.

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YEs.. Sasoma - Saser La road would require a tunnel/tunnels to make it all weather..

 

[Suryavanshi]

Are these bridges in CoL.

Yes most likley

Google map doesn't show the LAC so it is hard to tell. But it is very close to DBO.

 

[Suhaan]

Google is your friend

You better do it ,you need it
Apart from copying links from it all this while,it helps in collecting knowledge as well

 

[Bhadra]

Talked about this long back but Bhadra sir shot me down.

But its definitely not a All weather road, that would require a tunnel to be constructed here.

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Meri itani Hammat Khan ki main apke post ko shot down karun..

I am aware of this route which is a BRO projects... Motor cyclist go on this route regularly...

China threat, new LAC route to Depsang
India revives caravan track to reach sensitive Ladakh areas | Alternative to key DSDBO road

 

[Bhadra]

China threat, new LAC route to Depsang
India revives caravan track to reach sensitive Ladakh areas | Alternative to key DSDBO road

Ajay Banerjee

Tribune News Service

New Delhi, August 18

An ancient caravan trade route between Ladakh and Kashgar (now in Xinjiang, China) has been revived by India as an alternative route to access the vital Sub-Sector North (SSN) in Ladakh. The Karakoram pass, Depsang plains and the airfield at Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) are part of the SSN.

At present, these sensitive places can be accessed through the 255-km-long Darbuk-Shyok-DBO (DSDBO) road, which at several points is close to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) and thus exposed to military risk. From Ladakh’s Shyok village to Murgo (in Depsang), covering 127 km, the DSDBO road runs close to the LAC. The Galwan valley is on the same stretch. A 23-km tract of the DSDBO road from Darbuk to Shyok and 105-km stretch from Murgo to the DBO is relatively away from the LAC.

The new road alignment starts from Sasoma, near the base of Siachen Glacier, and goes eastwards across the 17,800-foot-high Saser La and then descends at Gapsam near Murgo in Depsang plains. Here, the road will join the existing DSDBO road. As of now a jeepable mud track has been created from Sasoma to Saser La. Eastwards from Saser La to Saser Brangsa (an ancient camping site with no population), the 27-km track allows just walking. Beyond that till Murgo, a jeepable track is being laid out. The entire alignment, so far, is useable only during summer months, sources told The Tribune. New Delhi is taking a call on blacktopping the entire stretch.

An all-weather road exists between Leh and Sasoma. The route eastwards of Sasoma will allow an alternative axis to the SSN in case the DSDBO road is targeted.

The route is not new, it has been a mule track for centuries. Janet Rizvi in her book “Trans Himalayan Caravans- Merchant Princes and Peasant Traders in Ladakh”, published in 1999, says trade caravans were a regular between Ladakh and Kashgar till 1937. She describes the use of the route across Saser La.

The BRO, a unit under the Ministry of Defence, has carved out the new track under trying circumstances as this is one of rugged parts of the tree-less Karakoram mountains. Temperature dips to -50°C during winter and hovers around 12°C in peak summer. The Central Road Research Institute was involved in the study on making the road across Saser La or a tunnel under it.

Access to key airfield

• The vital Sub-Sector North (SSN) in Ladakh, which includes the Karakoram pass, Depsang plains and the airfield at Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO), can be accessed through the 255-km-long Darbuk-Shyok-DBO (DSDBO) road
• As an alternative route, India is now reviving an old trade track from Sasoma, near the base of Siachen Glacier, to Gapsam near Murgo in Depsang plains

 

[cereal killer]

You better do it ,you need it
Apart from copying links from it all this while,it helps in collecting knowledge as well

Lol you wanted the difference but I get it its okay, take your time. its hard for internet explorer users

 

[hit&run]

Like I said I won't be surprised if they start landing in Agra to refuel.