India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Knowitall]

When did I say they aren't?

Oh sorry I read it as last.

My bad.

 

[DownWithCCP]

After 2 months?

 

[daya]

No it doesn't.

We pay our money to a foreign power, and they give us a weapon that they hold the killswitches to. Other than small arms, everything with a chip has a killswitch, any use of the weapon that flies against the national interest of the exporter will trigger the switch.

Okay, so any known instance of the kill switch used by OEM country...

 

[kaaleshwaar]

After 2 months?

I guess it was a coma like situation

 

[kaaleshwaar]

What would this achieve? Communications maybe?

 

[Haldilal]

What would this achieve? Communications maybe?

In war the most important factor is communication. That's why the Signal Regiments plays an important role. Communication and logistic are two important factor that cant be ruled out in any war like conditions.

 

[ezsasa]

Why?

When our own govt went ahead and gave a contract to turkey for those 5 ships why do you expect anything from him?

Gulfam hassan maybe, who knows!!

 

[BangaliBabu]

F117 made its first flight in the 80s.

it's okay. Wrong info. Requested mods to take action.

 

[tarunraju]

Okay, so any known instance of the kill switch used by OEM country...

"Reliability issues" with Su-30 are often a sign of the Kremlin tweaking our air-power to its comfort-level, and to get us to buy spares.

 

[tarunraju]

What would this achieve? Communications maybe?

It would achieve non-interceptable comms. They're also signaling India that they've dug in and have no intention of withdrawing behind F4.

 

[Sridhar_TN]

It would achieve non-interceptable comms. They're also signaling India that they've dug in and have no intention of withdrawing behind F4.

Fiber optic laying are susceptible to nodal breaks. Meaning, it’s not impossible to intercept them. It’s very much possible and in some cases easier.
A possible reasoning for their cable laying operations is as you can guess, radio communication in this area is very unstable. The regions and terrain is as such.

Would it really matter what they do, if at some point it’s all for nothing.

 

[tarunraju]

Trump bhau is taking it to the next level.

Banning Alibaba is big, US businesses will no longer be able to do large volume B2B purchases and re-branding of Chinese trinkets.

I'm sure Alibaba alone amounts to a double-digit percentage of US-China trade.

 

[johnq]

No it doesn't.

We pay our money to a foreign power, and they give us a weapon that they hold the killswitches to. Other than small arms, everything with a chip has a killswitch, any use of the weapon that flies against the national interest of the exporter will trigger the switch.

So yes, we're already outsourcing national security by importing weapons, so there's no higher moral ground to be had by opposing the Americans to park the B-2s on Hindon's apron.

The export versions of foreign weapons are also downgraded, especially in terms of electronics, hardware and software.

 

[johnq]

India is a sleeping giant, in that many of its people are not yet able to realize their full potential due to lack of education and opportunities. Add to that the CAN'T DO belief that has been drilled into Indians' minds by foreigners over many generations. That is why many people of older generations prefer to import foreign technology over developing indigenous Indian technology; take the quick and easy way out. They worship anything created by foreigners and denigrate anything created by Indians, not realizing the enormous efforts, time and failures that the other countries had to go through to develop the final product. But it is slowly changing for the better in the younger generations of Indians. The day all Indians overcome the psychological hurdle of CAN'T DO and start believing in themselves, India will become an unbeatable superpower. But that day is coming.

 

[ezsasa]

India is a sleeping giant, in that many of its people are not yet able to realize their full potential due to lack of education and opportunities. Add to that the CAN'T DO belief that has been drilled into Indians' minds by foreigners over many generations. That is why many people of older generations prefer to import foreign technology over developing indigenous Indian technology; take the quick and easy way out. They worship anything created by foreigners and denigrate anything created by Indians, not realizing the enormous efforts, time and failures that the other countries had to go through to develop the final product. But it is slowly changing for the better in the younger generations of Indians. The day all Indians overcome the psychological hurdle of CAN'T DO and start believing in themselves, India will become an unbeatable superpower. But that day is coming.

You cannot ignore the fact that most people above 40 years of age today remember a different india than today's india, we used to go to customs shops to buy overpriced smuggled pepsi can, good electronic watches used to come from japan etc etc.

opinions are formed based on lived experiences, as time moves forward opinions change for the better based on current circumstances, provided there is an effort to improve the tomorrow better than the yesterday.

 

[LDev]

The day all Indians overcome the psychological hurdle of CAN'T DO and start believing in themselves, India will become an unbeatable superpower. But that day is coming.

So often in this thread one hears that if the IA somehow goes into Tibet, how will India support the logistics. I admit, there are no easy answers. But I have linked below a Youtube video which is a documentary on how the United States Air Force in WW2 operated a massive airlift campaign out of Assam into Kunming China to support the war effort of Chiang Kai-shek against the Imperial Japanese armed forces that had invaded China.

The logistics considering the time and location are simply mind boggling. War supplies came off ships either in Karachi or Calcutta and then shipped all the way to airfields in Assam, primary airfield at Chhabua. And from there a fleet of eventually 140 assorted prop aircraft primarily C-47s airlifted the supplies to Kunming, China. From small beginnings the airlift eventually transported more than 1 million tons of supplies with a peak of 50,000-60,000 tons per month by 1945. At the end of the war planes were taking off every 1.5 minutes. They lost more than 500 aircraft and 1800 crew flying these missions. And these missions were the template on which the Berlin Airlift was based years later in the middle of Europe.

The US had thousands of surplus C-47s at war's end. India could very easily have got a few hundred of those if ever serious thought was given in 1949 to occupy Tibet and to logistically support the Indian Army there.

Moral of the story: Where there is a will, there is a way.

 

[garg_bharat]

If the King adopts brahmacharya, who becomes King after him?

Are you Hindu?

 

[Sanglamorre]

Are you Hindu?

Yes.

Where I come from, adopting Brahmacharya includes being celibate.

 

[garg_bharat]

It would achieve non-interceptable comms. They're also signaling India that they've dug in and have no intention of withdrawing behind F4.

I think they are going for some sort of networked warfare? India beware of the implications.

 

[Sehwag213]

Hope this is not a repeat post.