India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Sehwag213]

We don’t have to start Chinese will start and escalate it to target Indian cities. Their goal is to cripple India economically.

Then our first target should be 3 Georges Dam.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Then our first target should be 3 Georges Dam.

it is going to collapse anyway and dosent do damage to economic centers. India has little to no leverage against China. India doing anything alone has little to no impact reality of present scenario.

 

[Sehwag213]

it is going to collapse anyway and dosent do damage to economic centrrd

It will directly affect 100 million Chinese I think. Moreover this will cause huge power loss throughout China

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It will directly affect 100 million Chinese I think. Moreover this will cause huge power loss throughout China

How would you accomplish this no long range bomber ?

 

[Sehwag213]

How would you accomplish this no long range bomber ?

Agni 2,3 missile from Assam/Arunachal

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Agni 2,3 missile from Assam/Arunachal

look at the CEP at 3000km distance almost no missile would perfectly strike. Chinese could mistake for nuclear strike and respond . How would you get thru Chinese air defenses?

 

[Sridhar_TN]

No the govt is nothing doing what it can do. What it can do is that it can give the Chinese a bloody nose in Ladakh. If history has shown one thing is that if the Chinese suffer reverses they are much more willing to negotiate. The Galwan incident though spontaneous should have been followed up with proactive action in other sectors.

Giving the excuse that we were not ready Isn’t going to cut it. There will always be some shortcomings. Our army as a fighting force has the advantage as they are battle hardened . We could have wrested the initiative if the go ahead had been given.

Right now it seems that Modi and his supporters are more interested in protecting his image than in taking on the Chinese. Have said this before, support him or not, win or loose , the whole country will support the PM if he decides to take decisive action. But unfortunately that seems a far cry.

Right now the Chinese have us in a bind. Having achieved their objectives they know they can sit back because they know we won’t retaliate. We on the other hand have to pour time and resources to maintain a huge forward deployment.

The reason for the bind is we are battling with a pandemic.
This is the most cowardly move in history. This shows the level to which they stoop to.

but allsaid and done, we can easilyoccupy a potion of their territory too and wait and watch.they will not be able to engage them as well. If they do, we retaliate likewise.
This is by no means a stalemate.

 

[Sehwag213]

look at the CEP at 3000km distance almost no missile would perfectly strike. Chinese could mistake for nuclear strike and respond . How would you get thru Chinese air defenses?

Aren't you saying they will cripple our economy? How will they cripple our economy without destroying it through nuclear strike ?
Conventional weapons can't cripple an economy for a longer time .

 

[Sridhar_TN]

We don’t have to start Chinese will start and escalate it to target Indian cities. Their goal is to cripple India economically.

I will be cautious when saying that. If they target Indian cities, the NFU will go to the back burner. If cities are attacked, That’s an existential threat and nukes will be brandished by all means.
Mainland China is fair game at that point.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

We don’t have to start Chinese will start and escalate it to target Indian cities. Their goal is to cripple India economically.

Really.. what about their export import business ?. there will be an equivalent number of china bound ships which will be blown up west of Malacca strait, which would serve to cripple chinese economy... and as of today, there is not much the PLA Navy can do about it

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Aren't you saying they will cripple our economy? How will they cripple our economy without destroying it through nuclear strike ?
Conventional weapons can't cripple an economy for a longer time .

600 IRBM’s have been pointed at all india ciiies from TIBET for last 50 years . They maybe conventional that is one way. They have long range bombers to drop thousands more. They have submarines in bases in Africa and Asia that can launch 100’s more conventional or unconventional.
We have none of the above.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I will be cautious when saying that. If they target Indian cities, the NFU will go to the back burner. If cities are attacked, That’s an existential threat and nukes will be brandished by all means.
Mainland China is fair game at that point.

I have not implied nuclear strike . Even conventional maybe enough. Pakis have no NFU. Chinese don’t play by rules and they are liars . They have little obstacles like we have self imposed.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

I will be cautious when saying that. If they target Indian cities, the NFU will go to the back burner. If cities are attacked, That’s an existential threat and nukes will be brandished by all means.
Mainland China is fair game at that point.

Forget about nukes.. Sinking their commercial shipping, would send insurance costs through the roof, making any trade with China too risky and costly.. if they hit our economy. .we can hit their economy too... But, they dont even need to attack our cities, and suffer pain in return.. they can just come sit, and claim any territory they want..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Really.. what about their export import business ?. there will be an equivalent number of china bound ships which will be blown up west of Malacca strait, which would serve to cripple chinese economy... and as of today, there is not much the PLA Navy can do about it

shashank agree but Indian navy alone would not be able to accomplish this.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

These are scenarios I presented where Chinese are directly involved against us. They don’t have to be directly involved just build up hostile neighbors against India to do the dirty work.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

They have submarines in bases in Africa and Asia that can launch 100’s more conventional or unconventional.

Which are those bases apart from one.. Djibouti base.. which is a pretty small base..

 

[Sridhar_TN]

I have not implied nuclear strike . Even conventional maybe enough. Pakis have no NFU. Chinese don’t play by rules and they are liars . They have little obstacles like we have self imposed.

Exactly. Raise the stakes. If the chinkies target Indian cities, by all means target Chinese ones. Volley after volley. We need to show resolve. The chinks will get scared easily. They’ve shown how scared they got at doklam.
If the goi is able to show brutal aggression, they will back down. The chinks are not a warrior group like the Arabs are. They don’t have that spirit.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Which are those bases apart from one.. Djibouti base.. which is a pretty small base..

4 ports around India Sri Lanka , Burma, Bangladesh, Iran in the not too distant future

 

[Sehwag213]

4 ports around India Sri Lanka , Burma, Bangladesh, Iran in the not too distant future

Lol what ?
That would be the surest way of realising Akhand Bharat map.
The moment a missile is launched from Ban/SL , we will completely destroy these countries

 

[DownWithCCP]

Any updates on the corps commander level talks?