India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

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Beijing warns New Delhi against economic offensives, review of 'One China' policy

China on Thursday warned India against any move for “forced decoupling” of the two economies in the wake of the military stand-off along the disputed boundary between the two nations. The Communist country also cautioned New Delhi against any move to review India’s “One China” policy and to recalibrate its approach on Taiwan, Tibet and Hong Kong.
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The stand-off between the Indian Army and the Chinese People’s Liberation Army in eastern Ladakh also prompted many in India to suggest that the Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Government should review the country’s “One-China” policy – by elevating relations with Taiwan, by more overtly supporting Dalai Lama and the exiled Tibetans’ struggle against China’s rule over Tibet, by speaking up against the Xi Jinping regime’s atrocities on Uighurs in Xinjiang and crackdown on pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong and by more strongly opposing the Communist country’s expansionist moves in South China Sea.
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Sun said that the economies of India and China were “interwoven and interdependent”. “According to local statistics in India, in 2018-2019, 92 per cent of Indian computers, 82 per cent of TVs, 80 per cent of optical fibres, and 85 per cent of motorcycle components are imported from China,” he said, adding: “Countless examples like this are the reflection of globalization. Globalization has deepened the interconnection between countries into the capillaries.”
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“I want to point out emphatically that Taiwan, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, and Xizang affairs are totally China’s internal affairs and bear on China’s sovereignty and security,” said Sun, adding: “While China does not interfere in other country’s domestic affairs, it allows no external interference and never trades its core interests either”.

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No agreement by china on the next corps commander meet.
Source article:Theprint
Chinese have cleared said that deescalation has happened and this is the best they can do and they dont want to go back from depsang, lake, and among other areas... they have asked us to fuck-off.

so all this talks and promises of deescalation was to buy time so that they can strengthen their position by bringing armors, arties, erecting perm structures and solidifying their gains.

remember my post about queen gambit move? now its up-to India to accept the deescalation as offered by Chinese or be ready to escalate. we are the ones who is begging for talks

jabh woh log permanent bunkers bana-rahe the, tabh kya hamari sarkar aur hamari foj ek dusre ki gand sungrahe thi kya bc? ye toh hona hi tha.

ch*** banadiya ham logon ko
ganta deescalation hoga abh. :lehappy:
 
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Chinese have cleared said that deescalation has happened and this is the best they can do and they dont want to go back from depsang, lake, and among other areas... they have asked us to fuck-off.

so all this talks and promises of deescalation was to buy time so that they can strengthen their position by bringing armors, arties, erecting perm structures and solidifying their gains.

remember my post about queen gambit move? now its up-to India to accept the deescalation as offered by Chinese or be ready to escalate. we are the ones who is begging for talks

jabh woh log permanent bunkers bana-rahe the, tabh kya hamari sarkar aur hamari foj ek dusre ki gand sungrahe thi kya bc? ye toh hona hi tha.

ch*** banadiya ham logon ko
ganta deescalation hoga abh. :lehappy:
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I think Modi should have declared emergency by now but seems Modi has a thing against emergency.

A bloody war against China cannot be fought without emergency powers.

I believe that politician is still trying to grasp this situation. Likely even General is also trying to grasp. Because nobody in this country took a war with China seriously for the last THIRTY years.

The initial war experience of USSR against Germany in WW2 was almost catastrophic for USSR. This can happen when a country is ill prepared.
 

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Beijing warns New Delhi against economic offensives, review of 'One China' policy

China on Thursday warned India against any move for “forced decoupling” of the two economies in the wake of the military stand-off along the disputed boundary between the two nations. The Communist country also cautioned New Delhi against any move to review India’s “One China” policy and to recalibrate its approach on Taiwan, Tibet and Hong Kong.
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The stand-off between the Indian Army and the Chinese People’s Liberation Army in eastern Ladakh also prompted many in India to suggest that the Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Government should review the country’s “One-China” policy – by elevating relations with Taiwan, by more overtly supporting Dalai Lama and the exiled Tibetans’ struggle against China’s rule over Tibet, by speaking up against the Xi Jinping regime’s atrocities on Uighurs in Xinjiang and crackdown on pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong and by more strongly opposing the Communist country’s expansionist moves in South China Sea.
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Sun said that the economies of India and China were “interwoven and interdependent”. “According to local statistics in India, in 2018-2019, 92 per cent of Indian computers, 82 per cent of TVs, 80 per cent of optical fibres, and 85 per cent of motorcycle components are imported from China,” he said, adding: “Countless examples like this are the reflection of globalization. Globalization has deepened the interconnection between countries into the capillaries.”
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“I want to point out emphatically that Taiwan, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, and Xizang affairs are totally China’s internal affairs and bear on China’s sovereignty and security,” said Sun, adding: “While China does not interfere in other country’s domestic affairs, it allows no external interference and never trades its core interests either”.

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Before banning apps we should've done this. This would have hurt China to the extreme. But our entire policy is full of joke. We don't even openly support Balochistan internationally & I honestly don't have much hope we will support Tibet Taiwan & Xinjiang in near future. China can openly support Pakistan on Kashmir but why we can't do the same is beyond me :frusty: :facepalm:
 

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No. The positions of power that speak to us like PLA (through actions) or MEA, or Ambs are all controlled by Jinping faction. The other faction is in internal beureucracy.

This is just to put us off guard. I would hold off on the Modi vandana till the Chinese actually retreat on ground. What China is saying now is, if you don't want trouble, don't ask us to go back. We will work with you, only if you accept our terms.
off topic,

Had a chat with an Insider RSS functionary.

q 1. Why is Modi growing Beard. Any fashion thing?

A. Everyone is thinking its Shravan Thing. But that is done only when he has swear upon something and its like he is dead serious about it.

q2. So is it mandir for which he is growing?
a2. last time he grew beard was in 1992 for mandir.

q3. Then whats the reason?
a3. Indians dnt need to worry. This is the calm before the storm. Mahabharat hoga.


The statement MAHABHARAT HOGA the tone was dead serious.


RSS activities on ground regarding making people aware of Chinese boycott have increased multi folds from customers to the traders. Unions are coming resolution after resolution.

We are decoupling our economy in immediate things.
 
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I think Modi should have declared emergency by now but seems Modi has a thing against emergency.

A bloody war against China cannot be fought without emergency powers.

I believe that politician is still trying to grasp this situation. Likely even General is also trying to grasp. Because nobody in this country took a war with China seriously for the last THIRTY years.

The initial war experience of USSR against Germany in WW2 was almost catastrophic for USSR. This can happen when a country is ill prepared.
not only war with china.. but nobody took seriously the possibility for 2.5 front war since last 3 decades. china and pakistan are in bed since pokhran-2. our army and netas should have expected a circus like this considering the growing ties between china and pakistan. china openly started supporting state sponsored terrorism from Pakistan and terrorist in UNO.. we should have opened our eyes by then..

but hey, our netas were busy offering free electricity, waive illegal farmer loans, give subsidies, providing free medicals, free ration card and passports to illegal migrants etc..

lekin bc kya aaj tak ek neta bhi paida huva, jisne ye kaha ki agar hamari party election jeet gaye , toh mein INDIAN ARMY ko 500 ache tanks lakar dunga , 250 तोप lakar dunga, mein har ek jawan ko level-4 ka bullest vest banakar dunga.. mein aapne airforce ke leye kuch viman lakar dunga.. aapni nau sena ke leye kuch submarines banakar dunga..
 

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not only war with china.. but nobody took seriously the possibility for 2.5 front war since last 3 decades. china and pakistan are in bed since pokhran-2. our army and netas should have expected a circus like this considering the growing ties between china and pakistan. china openly started supporting state sponsored terrorism from Pakistan and terrorist in UNO.. we should have opened our eyes by then..

but hey, our netas were busy offering free electricity, waive illegal farmer loans, give subsidies, providing free medicals, free ration card and passports to illegal migrants etc..

lekin bc kya aaj tak ek neta bhi paida huva, jisne ye kaha ki agar hamari party election jeet gaye , toh mein INDIAN ARMY ko 500 ache tanks lakar dunga , 250 तोप lakar dunga, mein har ek jawan ko level-4 ka bullest vest banakar dunga.. mein aapne airforce ke leye kuch viman lakar dunga.. aapni nau sena ke leye kuch submarines banakar dunga..
People were worried about are ye 5 rafale ke piche itna nanga naach q kar rahe hai.

Today rafale, meteor, hammer are household talks.

People are discussing about it.

A class 10th girl vernacular medium in neighbourhood sat down in front of TV and was noting down specifications shown in TV. I asked her y? she said on 15 august she will give speech on it.

A politician speaks and make promises about the issues between the people.

This was never a part of discussion among common people.

discussion used to be in past for them was Corruption in defence deals.

The narrative is changing.

A parent who only knew a word MISSILE is talking about air to surface missile.

A kid who used to talk about BAJAJ PULSAR and KTM is talking about rafale and putting its status.

We are changing the ground narrative.

You will see the narrative in coming election rallies, exactly what u wrote.

Preliminary indicator :- Rafale hota to hume Andar jaane ki zarurat nahi padti Pakistan ke. Hum yahi se sab uda dete. (Rajnath singh)
 

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Before banning apps we should've done this. This would have hurt China to the extreme. But our entire policy is full of joke. We don't even openly support Balochistan internationally & I honestly don't have much hope we will support Tibet Taiwan & Xinjiang in near future. China can openly support Pakistan on Kashmir but why we can't do the same is beyond me :frusty: :facepalm:
The answer is very clear, no need of facepalm.

We cannot do much about time gone by, we can only talk about present and future. And the path India chooses must be one that takes military strength in serious consideration.
 

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Would be fun watching biden stand in front of trump and getting bullies & banged left and right.... LOL
Don’t be too sure. Even though Biden is clearly not in his prime, he’s a formidable debater and against Trump he won’t be holding back unlike in the democratic debates. Even Trump supporters don’t hate Biden, unlike Hillary Clinton. If there’s a Biden breakdown, then great for Trump but going into it expecting exactly that might quickly get them the opposite. Trumps best bet is to try and tar Biden as being connected with the left loonies, Biden himself is a solid centralist. Even the corruption argument against his son won’t fly for the most part, nobody believes Trump is above board. Nor are all the worries that Biden will be run by the ultra left if he wins, true, Biden will be an one term President and he won’t let anyone dictate his legacy. The left loonies are in for a rude shock if he becomes President and they find that they aren’t actually running the show. His big problem will be his VP, especially if it’s Kamala Harris because she will be campaigning from day 1 and might be a disrupter to his plans.
 
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