India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[rock127]

That's nothing... here is the latest!

Afgan-Pak border has become HOT... Chinese Pakis are getting banged from 3 ends, inside BLA feedom Fighters, Afgans and then Abbu IA.

Pakis wanted to bleed India by 1000 cuts but Pakis are bleeding from 786 cuts themselves. About 100,000 Chinese Paki soldiers dead in WOT, lost $120 Billion, blasts, terrorism, increased attacks by BLA, Afgans. Pakis in DENIAL MODE as usual!

Pakistan in the war on terror - Wikipedia

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[UZI™️]

That's nothing... here is the latest!

Afgan-Pak border has become HOT... Chinese Pakis are getting banged from 3 ends, inside BLA feedom Fighters, Afgans and then Abbu IA.

Pakis wanted to bleed India by 1000 cuts but Pakis are bleeding from 786 cuts themselves. About 100,000 Chinese Paki soldiers dead in WOT, lost $120 Billion, blasts, terrorism, increased attacks by BLA, Afgans. Pakis in DENIAL MODE as usual!

Pakistan in the war on terror - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is that white thing which is gliding?A drone? And what's the matter here,why there's an escalation between pakis and Afghan soldiers?

 

[UZI™️]

Well well well

 

[tarunraju]

When chicoms talk peace, something's cooking at the LAC.

 

[UZI™️]

According to Rahul Gandhi, We're lacking all these "Out of the word technologies" in Rafale,Hence it's a scam !!

 

[rock127]

According to Rahul Gandhi, We're lacking all these "Out of the word technologies" in Rafale,Hence it's a scam !!

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What about Silencer/Exhaust type?

Personally would prefer this one... called Gunner exhaust! Best for Dara (Dassault Rafael)

 

[mist_consecutive]

Here's how you counter the F16, (the French pilots does it again)

1. At first part is to why you shouldn't force an MKI, Rafael or Mirage to a STR fight against a high STR platform such as F16.

Contrary to popular belief, a Chengdu J10 could give a surprise motha fucker type maneuver to our jets too. Its a copy of F16 but with canards. Could be very lethal in WVR fights.

2. Second part, from @10:31 is how you fight a high STR jet (F16). A good fighter pilot would use the Mirage awesome speed and rate of climb, then use altitude to its advantage and will try to turn the rate fight into → Vertical rate fight.

Mirage's delta wing produces better lifts, and thus also act a giant air brake, and thus would be used to lower its speed to have better nose authority to take a shot against an F16 when an opportunity arises.

3. Why lowering the speed at high altitude can be useful? When you nose dive at low speeds, you have better stability and pitch control. But most importantly a pilot would allow Mirage to cut the one loop tight maneuver of F16 into a half loop cut. (I mentioned in Rafael post already)

That's what this French pilot did.

Good post @scatterStorm.

However, I would like to mention that this complex maneuvering actually is becoming useless with the integration of HMD + high off-boresight missiles. Within the first merge, whoever shoots the missile first will win in most cases.

 

[mist_consecutive]

So this french dude just gave a nod to the official abort range for any adversary at 40K for an Amraam is 70miles. Meaning the it can travel up to 70miles or more. This info is considered classified.
This is why you require a better radar to detect an AAMRAM launch early. Else its attrition game.

So our IAF pilot would have to abort at least at this specific altitude way before 70 miles (112Km) considering BARS radar of MKI has a max range of scan mode of 160 miles. Thank goodness. Other MKI can detect an AAMRAM launch and share the info to other 3rd gen jets we have.
(source: link)

Its interesting from the article that an Mig-35 radar is the most powerful one.

He did not exactly give a nod I believe. He joked about it. Though it might be something around that range, as official range also quotes 110-120 km (70 miles). The whole discussion is just around that point of unknowingly disclosing restricted information, but if he violates it the next moment, it doesn't make sense, does it?

So our IAF pilot would have to abort at least at this specific altitude way before 70 miles

No actually, 70 miles range doesn't mean it will be able to reach 70 miles for a high-energy target like a fighter jet. For a target that can bleed the missile energy, the range will be much lesser.

For a maneuvering target, a safe bet for NEZ of AMRAAM without EW will be ~40-50 km for the C5-C7 variant. With SPJ it will be much lesser.

 

[jadoogar]

I didn't read this properly few hours back.
Australia urges restraint
Why TF the aussie ambassador is getting off script..
what else are we doing other than restraint & bilaterally-agreed principles, if not there would have been war by now.
MEA should give it back to aussie ambassador at appropriate time.
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“Australia urges restraint along the Line of Actual Control, & supports continued moves towards de-escalation. It's important that the bilaterally-agreed principles & norms that helped prevent escalation in the border areas over many decades continue to be observed.”

Perhaps what Aus is saying is that
- Australia supports India
- Australia is urging/telling/warning the sugars not to invade India and unilaterally alter the LAC
- the sugars are the aggressors and that is what is implied / understood here

 

[garg_bharat]

USA has pressured the whole world not to use HUAWEI but US companies still doing business
with Huawei . Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Qualcomm Inks Licensing Deal With Huawei Despite U.S.-China Tensions

U.S. mobile phone chip giant Qualcomm said it resolved a licensing dispute with Huawei Technologies and inked a long-term deal with the smartphone maker despite heightened tensions between the U.S. and China.

www.wsj.com

Qualcomm Inks Licensing Deal With Huawei Despite U.S.-China Tensions

Companies are thinking Trump will be gone soon and it will be business as usual after that.

China has serious penetration in the economic sphere in the USA.

 

[garg_bharat]

SH 15 'S howitzer has a top range of 55 KM with a Rocket Assisted Guided Shelle's .

Rocket assisted shells may have range BUT accuracy?

 

[garg_bharat]

I didn't read this properly few hours back.
Australia urges restraint
Why TF the aussie ambassador is getting off script..
what else are we doing other than restraint & bilaterally-agreed principles, if not there would have been war by now.
MEA should give it back to aussie ambassador at appropriate time.
========
“Australia urges restraint along the Line of Actual Control, & supports continued moves towards de-escalation. It's important that the bilaterally-agreed principles & norms that helped prevent escalation in the border areas over many decades continue to be observed.”

Australia is feeling the heat. Maybe Australia hoping things quite down and life goes back to normal.
Speaking against China is not easy for Australia due to economic links and proximity.

The turmoil in USA is scaring lot of people. These are times of HUGE uncertainty.

 

[cereal killer]

What is that white thing which is gliding?A drone? And what's the matter here,why there's an escalation between pakis and Afghan soldiers?

I frankly don't understand how come Paki military is getting banged by Afghan forces? If they use their artillery & mortars like they use on LoC, Afghans will not be able to take it. Or maybe Beggars are in shortage of those as they are getting banged on LoC as well

 

[utubekhiladi]

USA has pressured the whole world not to use HUAWEI but US companies still doing business
with Huawei . Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Qualcomm Inks Licensing Deal With Huawei Despite U.S.-China Tensions

U.S. mobile phone chip giant Qualcomm said it resolved a licensing dispute with Huawei Technologies and inked a long-term deal with the smartphone maker despite heightened tensions between the U.S. and China.

www.wsj.com

Qualcomm Inks Licensing Deal With Huawei Despite U.S.-China Tensions

i have been saying this for long time.. if trump is gone then both INDIA and USA is screwed

 

[utubekhiladi]

I frankly don't understand how come Paki military is getting banged by Afghan forces? If they use their artillery & mortars like they use on LoC, Afghans will not be able to take it. Or maybe Beggars are in shortage of those as they are getting banged on LoC as well

i am not sure if this news is true or not.
but there are multiple ways to counter enemy shelling.

one possible strategy for guerrilla warfare to counter enemy shelling and mortars is to spread out, and get close to enemy line, as much close as possible where they won't be able use artillery or mortars effectively. i think Afghan forces "might" be doing just that

 

[cereal killer]

i am not sure if this news is true or not.
but there are multiple ways to counter enemy shelling.

one possible strategy for guerrilla warfare to counter enemy shelling and mortars is to spread out, and get close to enemy force line, as much close as possible where they won't be able use artillery or mortars effectively. i think Afghan forces "might" be doing just that

If that's the case then kudos to Afghans. Actually I saw Indian media reporting that 9 civilians died in Afghan shelling. So maybe the news is true.

 

[garg_bharat]

I frankly don't understand how come Paki military is getting banged by Afghan forces? If they use their artillery & mortars like they use on LoC, Afghans will not be able to take it. Or maybe Beggars are in shortage of those as they are getting banged on LoC as well

Paki has cheaper soldiers. Cheaper than artillery shells.
For Pakistan, expending soldiers is cheaper.

 

[Bhadra]

18 km (M107, HE)
30 km (M549A1, HE-RAP)
36 km (K310, BB/DP-ICM)
40 km (K307, BB/HE)
52 km (K315, HE-RAP)
100+ km (GGAM, in development)

Who makes it ??
Is L&T making the ammunition in India ?

 

[garg_bharat]

When chicoms talk peace, something's cooking at the LAC.

China has come a long way from "Showing India its place" to "China is not a threat".
Har Har Modi!

Likely there is a power struggle in CCP. China is speaking in two voices at the same time.

 

[cereal killer]

Worth a read

China Has Squandered Its First Great Opportunity

The world has experienced a six-month geopolitical vacuum, and China has filled it poorly.

www.theatlantic.com