India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Kumata]

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I was flummoxed for almost 2 min .. must have scrolled few times to made sense of whats being read before processing it...

 

[ARVION]

I get the vibe. I feel the same when I hear it with access of "Shh" sound and cave styled script.

I always get Character amnesia when reading the chinese scripte's.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

I humbly request our moderators @ezsasa @hit&run @LETHALFORCE to change the name of this thread. Change it to something like 'Border Dispute' or of such sort. Please remove the word 'Boundary'.

Aisa lagta hai ki Cricket match chalu hai!!

 

[Sanglamorre]

Snowflakes fluttering as north wind whistling. Is my mandarin bad ?

No that's what it means I think.

The reason why I quoted is because it's a meme now.

 

[A chauhan]

I always get Character amnesia when reading the chinese scripte's.

Actually to understand anything which is Chinese we need to cut ourselves from the modern ground realities and start to live in a well of ill and incomplete information.

Just like the Kung Fu practitioners who never sparr in their life and never try to block a punch straight coming to their face (the reason why IA managed to easily break 18 necks), we'll need to forget Sanskritized Hindi and English (modern languages) and start to develop a caveman mentality who used to picturize events/thoughts and to draw (not write) the same on wall; only then this script will make sense and commit into our memory. (Okay enough fun and sarcasm on Chinks )

 

[nick_indian]

India needs to grow Westward. India needs to prepare itself to absorb Sindh and Baluchistan.

The opportunity may come soon.

Do you think the Pakis won't empty their nuclear arsenal on us if we did that ?

 

[Concard]

There is absurd discussion going on about China-Iran-Pakistan axis here.

If Pakistan ever goes with Iran then it's game over for them. All the Middle Eastern Muslim nations will ditch them and come down on them with ton of bricks. Pakis are very loyal to their Arab Masters. How loyal you ask? Just before the visit of MBS of Saudi Arabia Paki army orchestrated a suicide bombing in Iran on the border. From the economic point of view, most Pakis work in Middle East. Most of their exports go to EU and USA. How the heck they would ally with Iran? What are the benefits for them?

China is allying with Iran. Since Iran is shut off from financial system, Chinese have to use their own currency or Euros for investment. I am not sure how much flexibility they have using Euro as there can be sanctions from EU anytime. India always payed for Oil in Euro for Iran. But Chinese will definitely use their own currency and tie their fate with China. If Chinese go with Iran after Trump win in November then they will delay their alliance until 2024. Whatever the case the West and Arabs have Pakis by the balls.

I would like to know from others here the implications of Pakistan-Iran axis. I know it will be bad for India but it is devastating for Pakistan both economically and militarily.

 

[A chauhan]

Do you think the Pakis won't empty their nuclear arsenal on us if we did that ?

At such serious times people think about overall survival. Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is pretty useless. If they lose GB and survive as a nation it's still a good deal for them.

 

[ARVION]

Do you think the Pakis won't empty their nuclear arsenal on us if we did that ?

Barking dog's dont bite.

 

[Akula]

What is special about that language that you tried to learn it ?

My friend was trying to make me a communist.

 

[nick_indian]

There is absurd discussion going on about China-Iran-Pakistan axis here.

If Pakistan ever goes with Iran then it's game over for them. All the Middle Eastern Muslim nations will ditch them and come down on them with ton of bricks. Pakis are very loyal to their Arab Masters. How loyal you ask? Just before the visit of MBS of Saudi Arabia Paki army orchestrated a suicide bombing in Iran on the border. From the economic point of view, most Pakis work in Middle East. Most of their exports go to EU and USA. How the heck they would ally with Iran? What are the benefits for them?

China is allying with Iran. Since Iran is shut off from financial system, Chinese have to use their own currency or Euros for investment. I am not sure how much flexibility they have using Euro as there can be sanctions from EU anytime. India always payed for Oil in Euro for Iran. But Chinese will definitely use their own currency and tie their fate with China. If Chinese go with Iran after Trump win in November then they will delay their alliance until 2024. Whatever the case the West and Arabs have Pakis by the balls.

I would like to know from others here the implications of Pakistan-Iran axis. I know it will be bad for India but it is devastating for Pakistan both economically and militarily.

Absolutely agreed but one wonders why West hasn't been able to make Pakistan stop harboring the Taliban, training and supplying them and killing NATO soldiers in Afghanistan, since they, as you rightly said, have the Pakis by the balls.

 

[ARVION]

My friend was trying to make me a communist.

Lived for a few days in Zhoushan , always tried to find for a bite of sandwich, never ever eaten the local cuisines, even spend high amount of cash on costly japanese and koreans restraunts, but always tried to avoid the local cuisine's at all cost.

 

[ARVION]

Help to understand the difficulty of the Terrain in Ladakh's

 

[mokoman]

There is absurd discussion going on about China-Iran-Pakistan axis here.

If Pakistan ever goes with Iran then it's game over for them. All the Middle Eastern Muslim nations will ditch them and come down on them with ton of bricks. Pakis are very loyal to their Arab Masters. How loyal you ask? Just before the visit of MBS of Saudi Arabia Paki army orchestrated a suicide bombing in Iran on the border. From the economic point of view, most Pakis work in Middle East. Most of their exports go to EU and USA. How the heck they would ally with Iran? What are the benefits for them?

China is allying with Iran. Since Iran is shut off from financial system, Chinese have to use their own currency or Euros for investment. I am not sure how much flexibility they have using Euro as there can be sanctions from EU anytime. India always payed for Oil in Euro for Iran. But Chinese will definitely use their own currency and tie their fate with China. If Chinese go with Iran after Trump win in November then they will delay their alliance until 2024. Whatever the case the West and Arabs have Pakis by the balls.

I would like to know from others here the implications of Pakistan-Iran axis. I know it will be bad for India but it is devastating for Pakistan both economically and militarily.

A China-Iran-Pakistan axis seem unlikely .

Reading about the deal , almost seem like Iran is going to sell entire country at a discount .
Both China and Russia will have priority first access at discount to any project that comes up in Iran.
There is also a pipline in works .

Chinese have over 3 trillion in foreign reserves , they will spend $400b over 25 year period to build up
Iranian infrastructure and oil - gas industry . actual trade i am guessing will be in chinese currency or Euro .

They could also go for barter like we did.A long arms embargo on Iran will expire on 2023 , meaning China can sell jets,missiles,tanks for oil

I dont know how much we spend on Chabahar port but I hope we kept the receipts,we cant buy oil from them due to sanctions , maybe they will pay us back in renminbi or euro.

 

[Suryavanshi]

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Short beiefing's.

Those old helmets are an eye sore.

 

[ARVION]

Those old helmets are an eye sore.

Hope new MKU ALH's Mukut reach the LAC in large quantitie's. They just cost 11,000 rupees with the adaptar's.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Do you think the Pakis won't empty their nuclear arsenal on us if we did that ?

Nukes aren't meant to be fired.

 

[garg_bharat]

Most of the bloodshed in the world is due to two warlord tribes - the Khazars and the Mongols. Khazars have hijacked Islam. Nobody knows what Muhammad preached - as the religion is heavily corrupted by Khazars. The Chinese civilization is hijacked by Mongols. The judaism and Christianity are also corrupted by Khazars to a varying degree.

A correction - India is still managing a terminal at Chabahar port so it is not a complete pullout. India has built a road from Chabahar to Western Afghanistan for moving goods. However China has already set sights on Chabahar. So nobody knows how long India lasts there.

There are a lot of issues with Iran right now due to American sanctions. Money flow both ways through Western banking channels is affected.

 

[nick_indian]

Nukes aren't meant to be fired.

The Japanese may disagree mate.

Anyway, I get your point but I feel it's too much of a risk in order to take an area full of Muslims who have no love for India or non-Muslims.

 

[garg_bharat]

Nukes aren't meant to be fired.

You will soon receive a surprise of your life. Prediction is upto 30% of current arsenal will be used in WW3; which has already started technically.