India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Lancer]

Don't know why Jaichand is touted as a traitor.. It's basically a leftist agenda to target him... To tarnish Rajputs I guess. Take a look at this

The Narrative That Raja Jai Chand Was A Traitor And He Betrayed Prithviraj Chauhan, Is A Myth Porpagated By Marxist Historians

Source: - @DograKnight / Twitter.It is really heart wretching that Raja Raja Jaichand who is sold as the traitorous and a fallen hindu and nobody ever tried to correct the narrative being peddled

indictales.com

Yea, Jaichand being a traitor is likely a fallacy spread due to the Prithviraj Raso (which was filled with such inaccuracies and is basically a work of fantasy/Historical Fiction).

Same with the whole thing about Prithviraj forgiving Ghori 17 times. They fought only twice in total. And Prithviraj didn't shoot any arrow while blinded to kill him either. Even the whole Samyukta story is likely incorrect.

 

[ezsasa]

Yeah, no. I don't buy that. CSG has been consistent in their view of biding your time, keeping your head down and not angering daddy China, even when the threat is literally on the border.

China Study Group draws up plan for long haul ahead - Times of India

The sixth round of top-level military talks between India and China in eastern Ladakh is now likely to take place within the next few days, even as the fast-approaching winter has begun to exact a toll among rival soldiers deployed in the high-altitude region. The agenda for the military talks...

m.timesofindia.com

Without CSG recommendation there wouldn't have been a Infra buildup at LAC & Tibet border either, construction might have been delayed by previous govts but atleast now they have a govt which implements their recommendations.
CSG is not a military think tank, they are a national security think tank, they quite possibly take political and diplomatic inputs as well.

My point is very simple, everything can't be viewed only in military angle.

 

[Cactus09]

Yet another failure of Home ministry and so called chanakya !

Ever heard of good cop bad cop technique?

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

There was a proposal to have a tunneled road below chicken neck, dont know what happened to that.
Most IA generals have been of the view that China could perhaps ingress into Assam or Arunachal but egress would be impossible.

To get to chicken neck corridor, the PLA has to occupy Bhutan first and then cross. However small, Bhutan has a standing Army. This will be an act of war and will be akin to the Nazis marching into former Czechoslovakia, triggering alliances for ww2.

 

[shade]

Can we read this Huawei/ZTE in another way ?

We are not going to have a policy document printed on the bulletin board in the IT ministry that says "XYZ is barred". We will just set up the spces in the RFP in such a way that the chees never win.

The Indian government will not publicly state that they will exclude Huawei,ZTE but I believe privately all the telco players have been told to avoid Chinese telcos. This will be somewhat similar to no IPL team bidding for Pakistan players. There is no rule against that but it does not happen nevertheless

Allowing Huawei is the equivalent of having a Chinese general in the room where our war plans are being made. Huawei's habit of inserting backdoors in router code is public knowledge.

Hope this is true, but with the amount of opportunistic babus and Chinese lobbyists in industry and government you can never be sure.

“India is the child of the British Empire that seeks to preserve the status quo. It no longer identifies with the Mughal Empire, Britain’s predecessor.”
Stopped reading right there.

It is correct though
The current Republic of India( i.e the State, not the Nation ) is a British Left liberal construct, with Institutions like IAS, etc carried over, laws carried over way of thought( the "secularism" they promote all the time ), politicians, Legal system etc all from the time of the British Raj.
It is the reason why up until the Modi era, all Indian institutions and educational policy promoted westernized "secularism", and the top echelons of power were filled with Westernized, deracinated and godless traitors, who only cared for self-interest, and never about national interest beyond their kickbacks and bribes, surrounded by Westernized Liberal academics, journalists etc, all who's sole purpose was to support this un-Indian construct with lies and slander


This is also why you find the Lutyen's establishment regularly crying about the "Idea of India"( by which they imply that India the nation is an artificial construct, created by congress types, without this "idea" there would be no united nation ) and also why the paranoia over Modi creating a Hindu Rashtra, which implicitly means a purge of all Macaulay-putras in the bureaucracy, courts etc.


Sorry for this OT wall of text mods

 

[daya]

Don't know why Jaichand is touted as a traitor.. It's basically a leftist agenda to target him... To tarnish Rajputs I guess. Take a look at this

The Narrative That Raja Jai Chand Was A Traitor And He Betrayed Prithviraj Chauhan, Is A Myth Porpagated By Marxist Historians

Source: - @DograKnight / Twitter.It is really heart wretching that Raja Raja Jaichand who is sold as the traitorous and a fallen hindu and nobody ever tried to correct the narrative being peddled

indictales.com

Mujhe ek bade prominent history aur sanskrit ke teacher ne bataya tha ki sanyogita ko ladki bana diya, videshiyon ne.. actually, ye jhagda do state ke beech no men's land ko lekar tha.. jisko sanyukta bola jaata tha.. videshi sanyukta ko sanyogita ek ladki banakar project kar diya... Unhone kaha ki hinduon men rishte ki bahan aur bhanji se shadi hoti hi nahi thi aur to aur isko apradh maana jata tha.. agar sanyogita ki kahani sach maani jaye tab bhi prithiviraj chauhan aur sanyogita ki shaadi hona asambhav tha...

 

[neel9821]

“India is the child of the British Empire that seeks to preserve the status quo. It no longer identifies with the Mughal Empire, Britain’s predecessor.”
Stopped reading right there.

We do not necessarily need to agree with the author but, to some extend, the author is correct. We are trying to stick to what we got in 1947 from British. Ancient India was composed of the modern-day countries of Afghanistan (some portions), Bangladesh, Bhutan, Myanmar, India, Nepal and Pakistan. Are we even talking about it? With Chinese, our goal is to stick to the MacMohan line.
We are trying to restore the status quo with Chinese

 

[Assassin 2.0]

The current Republic of India( i.e the State, not the Nation ) is a British Left liberal construct, with Institutions like IAS, etc carried over, laws carried over way of thought( the "secularism" they promote all the time ), politicians, Legal system etc all from the time of the British Raj.
It is the reason why up until the Modi era, all Indian institutions and educational policy promoted westernized "secularism", and the top echelons of power were filled with Westernized, deracinated and godless traitors, who only cared for self-interest, and never about national interest beyond their kickbacks and bribes, surrounded by Westernized Liberal academics, journalists etc, all who's sole purpose was to support this un-Indian construct with lies and slander

Whitewashing everything.
If india was child of British empire then we would have been having union jack as a flag and would be having photos of queen on the currency.
Most importantly india would have been a Christian majority country with interest which would have been in line with western / british interest but after 60s india and west relationship declined systematically.

Anyway india from time to time have shown that it does have capability to take it's own stand.
Anyway the credit of fuckin up with indian system goes to congress and and Muslim gandhi family to not to anyone else.

Most of the laws ideologies are not copyrighted by anyone. These are free far all values which are being followed by majority of republics but that doesn't mean that they are not sovereign.
The idea of india being a artificial state is so funny first of all this whole subcontinent is indian and india is connected through cultural lines which are hard to break even after decades of suffering.

 

[cereal killer]

Mujhe ek bade prominent history aur sanskrit ke teacher ne bataya tha ki sanyogita ko ladki bana diya, videshiyon ne.. actually, ye jhagda do state ke beech no men's land ko lekar tha.. jisko sanyukta bola jaata tha.. videshi sanyukta ko sanyogita ek ladki banakar project kar diya... Unhone kaha ki hinduon men rishte ki bahan aur bhanji se shadi hoti hi nahi thi aur to aur isko apradh maana jata tha.. agar sanyogita ki kahani sach maani jaye tab bhi prithiviraj chauhan aur sanyogita ki shaadi hona asambhav tha...

Basically Prithviraj Raso is a work of fiction... Contemporary historians put Jaichandra in high regard. He was most powerful emperor of North India at the time. Local accounts record that he was last Hindu King to perform Rajsuya Yagya.
He had a definite rift with Prithviraj but so did every other emperor in India... Prithviraj's duels with famous Alha Udal bros had basically weakened him just before 2nd battle with Ghori.
Leftist & Marxist historians like to spread Prithviraj Raso by Chandbardai as some gospel truth.
In the battle of Chandwar Jaichandra was about to defeat Ghori but a stray arrow stuck him... And then he was Given Villian title wrongly.
True Indology also busted this myth sometime ago.

 

[Cheran]

Micheal & George in Kunming (lol)

Several other traitors might be shitting bricks now, hopefully.

 

[bajiraopeshwa]

Another interesting article. It is written by a person with some ties to China so take with some salt. Nevertheless some interesting takeaways

Is China avoiding conflict or secretly planning a counterattack against India?

Many within China believe that its India policy is lacking strength and its military deterrence against India is proving ineffective. The questions doing rounds among Chinese strategic circles are that despite India’s “all-out attack”, why has the government still not taken “equal”...

www.indiatoday.in

1. China had the edge in infra and India had the edge in manpower. Now India is closing the gap in infra but the Chinese cannot close the gap in manpower due to their one child policy

2. Many within China are of the opinion that China’s India policy at this juncture is lacking strength and its military deterrence against India is increasingly proving ineffective - quote from article

3. Ratio of troops at LAC favors India (at 4:1 or 5:1)

4. India with average age of 27 is a bigger threat to China than an aging USA is.

On the last point, I think that as India closes the economic and technology gap with China, it will become increasingly difficult and unviable for China to even hold on to Tibet, forget areas in Ladakh. This may ofcourse take 40-50 years but as long as we dont sign some idiotic agreement it is okay. China has every incentive to close the Tibet/Ladakh issue before India becomes strong and this is what India must avoid.

Xinjiang is the puzzle though. We would rather not have another Islamic neighbour on our borders hence have to think what a free Xinjiang would mean.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Micheal & George in Kunming (lol)

Several other traitors might be shitting bricks now, hopefully.

Would be great if Generalfeldmarschall Sawhnstein was connected with this in some way.. It would be nice to see the prick's ass hauled around

 

[Godhimself]

Rajeev sharma was tasked to provide the information/inputs on issues like Indian deployment in Bhutan-Sikkim-China tri-junction including Doklam, the pattern of India-Myanmar military co-operation, India-China boundary issue etc.

 

[etantra]

Who seriously believes the Global Times anyway. The narrative set by India will be bought by the world.

well when you read articles in India that talk about 20 indians killed by PLA and doesn't even mention the possibility of PLA causualities, you know liberal Indians themselves have bought GT line.. mostly cause the RW was not given the tools to fight GT and liberals..

 

[Godhimself]

Would be great if Generalfeldmarschall Sawhnstein was connected with this in some way.. It would be nice to see the prick's ass hauled around

Trust me since the time this news came out iam praying somehow sawnhey dog gets his name in this spy ring

 

[Cheran]

Bat munchers at it again via CryBabyTimes

 

[cereal killer]

It's Baba But....

 

[shade]

Nice to see all the Jaichands *Mir Jaffars are getting caught.
Hope they are able to extract information about other moles working with this one

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Sawhnstein:

 

[etantra]

Bat munchers at it again via CryBabyTimes

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