India-China 2020 Border conflict

[NAMICA]

If everything goes right then within 4-5 yrs we will be self reliant in drones.

 

[sorcerer]

Indian Army To Deploy New, Advanced Boats In Pangong Tso, Will Help Patrol Sensitive Lake

Indian Army To Deploy New, Advanced Boats In Pangong Tso, Will Help Patrol Sensitive Lake

India will deploy boats with enhanced capabilities, including anti-ramming features, at Pangong Lake at eastern Ladakh, one of the border locations witnessing a dispute with China

swarajyamag.com

 

[porky_kicker]

I think it will be air launched we have already seen it in expos.

There are multiple projects currently under development

Reposting one of them

From a startup Zmotion

Hand launched , vehicle launched attack drones for IAF , IA , IN and SFs.

Ability to search , detect and attack radar emitting targets autonomously, undetectable by hostile radars , swappable payloads / warheads , fire and forget ability , loitering ability , retargeting capability ability to attack targets on the move eg SAM radars / launchers etc

Read the slides for more details

Credit : Nationaldefence @ YouTube

 

[sorcerer]

Centre approves new strategy officer post for Army - Northlines
Indian Army will finally have a new rank position which will now aid quicker decision-making and synergy as the government has approved the post of Deputy Chief (Strategy) who will oversee operations, intelligence and logistics.


The need for the position was felt during the Doklam standoff with China in 2017. The approval interestingly comes after a year’s delay amid the ongoing military tussle with China in Ladakh.

Centre approves new strategy officer post for Army

Indian Army will finally have a new rank position which will now aid quicker decision-making and synergy as the government has approved the post of Deputy

www.thenorthlines.com

 

[sorcerer]

Russia Naval base in Sudan could expand its partnership with India in Indo-Pacific region

Russia has announced that it has entered into a pact with Sudan to create a navy base in Sudan, and this could open up possibilities of cooperation with India in the Western Indian Ocean.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Help keep a watch on the chinese swim pigs somewhere near over there!

 

[porky_kicker]

Lo

EW Drone? Is it drdo project? Can u elaborate more

Read my post above

 

[sorcerer]

U.S. ends exchange programmes with China

The U.S. State Department said on Friday it has ended five cultural exchange programs with China, calling them “soft power propaganda tools.”

The Department said on its website it had “terminated” the Policymakers Educational China Trip Program, the U.S.-China Friendship Programme, the U.S.-China Leadership Exchange Program, the U.S.-China Transpacific Exchange Program and the Hong Kong Educational and Cultural Programme.

U.S. ends exchange programmes with China

State Department calls the Chinese-funded programmes ‘soft power propaganda tools’.

www.thehindu.com

 

[FalconSlayers]

U.S. ends exchange programmes with China

The U.S. State Department said on Friday it has ended five cultural exchange programs with China, calling them “soft power propaganda tools.”

The Department said on its website it had “terminated” the Policymakers Educational China Trip Program, the U.S.-China Friendship Programme, the U.S.-China Leadership Exchange Program, the U.S.-China Transpacific Exchange Program and the Hong Kong Educational and Cultural Programme.

U.S. ends exchange programmes with China

State Department calls the Chinese-funded programmes ‘soft power propaganda tools’.

www.thehindu.com

Trump will do irreversible harm to China before Biden takes over. Yet after all such boycotts and sanctions how is chinki economy growing and that too fast.

 

[sorcerer]

Trump will do irreversible harm to China before Biden takes over. Yet after all such boycotts and sanctions how is chinki economy growing and that too fast.

can never trust the chinese economic numbers... or what their paid media says.

 

[shade]

can never trust the chinese economic numbers... or what their paid media says.

Their economic numbers are more or less true.
Have you heard about those ghost cities? HSR track construction? CPEC/OBOR? those are used to boost growth rate numbers.

I can explain in more detail if you want.

 

[Cactus09]

Their economic numbers are more or less true.
Have you heard about those ghost cities? HSR track construction? CPEC/OBOR? those are used to boost growth rate numbers.

I can explain in more detail if you want.

Please make a separate thread for this. Very interesting topic and will be a learning experience for many.

 

[sorcerer]

Their economic numbers are more or less true.
Have you heard about those ghost cities? HSR track construction? CPEC/OBOR? those are used to boost growth rate numbers.

I can explain in more detail if you want.

yeah. Wion does regular updates on the chinese ghost cities.
china has created a bubble..lets see how long they can keep that bubble afloat.
I am expecting a few sanctions on china from the European union and USA vis a vis East Turkestan...
Trump would put another nail before he leaves.

 

[N4tsula67]

can never trust the chinese economic numbers... or what their paid media says.

Can we make an thread on this?
Like is china lying about its GDP figure? Is china manipulating its currency?

Yes China Is Lying About the Size of Its Economy

Not that shocking when you think about it.

nationalinterest.org

 

[sorcerer]

Can we make an thread on this?
Like is china lying about its GDP figure? Is china manipulating its currency?

Yes China Is Lying About the Size of Its Economy

Not that shocking when you think about it.

nationalinterest.org

There is already a few on that lines.
we can revive one thread on chinese fake economy.

 

[shade]

Please make a separate thread for this. Very interesting topic and will be a learning experience for many.

It's not interesting per se, it is basically their economy is in permanent "stimulus" mode.

As you know they are a "command economy" aside from the capitalist export economy bits.
Which means they have many PSUs for every industrial/construction segment you can imagine.
Now most Governments when doing "stimulus" give out large infrastructure contracts basically.

In China's context this is building new cities, new highways, new railway tracks both HSR and the normal ones, new ports and expansion/maintenance of existing ones, new support infrastructure for cities like sewage lines, water supply, power supply, internet, what have you.
Then there is this fully indigenized MIC, an MIC itself is a very expansive web of specialty subcomponents in building some military product as you may be aware.
There are many more subsegments i'm missing, but hopefully the point has been put across.

Now in all the types mentioned above CCP has all kinds of PSUs involved, and like our ones they hire more people than is necessary, now for Infrastructure aside from the labour involved, you also need to buy raw materials, subcomponents, assemblies and "products" like say rolling stock for your railway tracks right? fear not, you will purchase all these from other Chinese PSUs, and a smattering of large and small private companies also.

More orders means more money for everyone involved, for state controlled PSUs this is a "circular system" for private players these mean more money to invest, add more capacity, and expand business to supplying for domestic market or exports.
Now there are also the employees working in the companies in this web of procurement, construction, manufacturing, engineering, design etc, all who have salaries, all who will spend this money.

This is how you get inflated GDP growth rate % there.




You may be wondering now, where does all this limitless money come from, for all these excesses, like unnecessary cities, infrastructure development, production of commodities and manufactured products, since these all are state led?

Most of this is jhol money, it will be an IL&FS crisis when this all comes out in the open, but the current system is a "win-win" for everyone involved, and it is beneficial that it continues, but they also perhaps take copious loans from global lending organizations, and they also have bought US govt "bonds", I guess that is a source of funding too.
Forgive me but my knowledge on the topic of "Where do the CCP get their money from" is a bit patchy, so someone with economics/banking background can post a clearer picture.

 

[Knowitall]

Their economic numbers are more or less true.
Have you heard about those ghost cities? HSR track construction? CPEC/OBOR? those are used to boost growth rate numbers.

I can explain in more detail if you want.

Most of their ghost cities are now completely full or in the process of being full through forced relocation or setting up of new industries social benefits schemes etc.

China's Largest Ghost City Is Now Almost Completely Full - But There's A Twist

Ordos Kangbashi, a place which gained international infamy for being "China's largest ghost city," is now almost completely full -- technically.

www.forbes.com

 

[FalconSlayers]

Please make a separate thread for this. Very interesting topic and will be a learning experience for many.

Yes, I mean many countries have ghost town due to some failed residential projects like theres one in India who I can’t recall became a ghost town because of judicial intervention and etc reasons. But China deliberately makes ghost towns to boost its GDP numbers as it increases their YoY construction growth but not natural GDP growth unless those houses are purchased by any person. In India if we make big buildings like China, they will be purchased by many of the people in China you can’t own a property and its the government thats the owner of all property in china hence getting a home is difficult in China. But I still feel jealous of China seeing drone views of their cities, they all look modern and have beautiful skyline and all of their cities. In India all our cities look like villages from above.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Most of their ghost cities are now completely full or in the process of being full through forced relocation or setting up of new industries social benefits schemes etc.

China's Largest Ghost City Is Now Almost Completely Full - But There's A Twist

Ordos Kangbashi, a place which gained international infamy for being "China's largest ghost city," is now almost completely full -- technically.

www.forbes.com

Artificially created shit hardly lasts long enough.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Artificially created shit hardly lasts long enough.

They deliberately make cheap buildings so that they last less and hence it will enable even more construction to be done.

 

[sorcerer]

CHINA’S MARCH OF FOLLY CONTINUES
Trump is scorching the road to Beijing. Trump knows his legacy in foreign policy will be the China pushback. It will be difficult for Joe Biden to reverse course on China.

Its state-owned citizens had sacrificed their liberty, now the Communist Party has hacked their brains.
So-called Chinese scientists alleged that the Wuhan virus came from the US, then it was France (where elderly patients were left to die), now it is India where exceptional mid-summer heat made humans and animals drink from the same water source, and that created the virus. This is science with Chinese characteristics!

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Chinese diplomats are street fighters, lacking the competence, finesse, and charm of their counterparts from other countries. Their ability to think and analyse independently is severely constrained by the overarching desire to tell the ruler what he wants to hear. So, if China wished to assert itself in Ladakh, its fellow in New Delhi would have tried to find out what Xi had in mind. And he would have told him: Go ahead, boss, India will not retaliate. When India did, and slapped China hard, the Chinese Ambassador in Delhi started making conciliatory noises about civilizational links etc. China’s officials, like its leader, are stupid and predictable. Telegraphing one’s intentions in advance of a battle is the surest way to lose it!




Trump is not castrated yet. In the American system, he can still take actions that would be difficult to reverse. Until Biden is inaugurated, Donald Trump exercises the full powers of the presidency. The American duck is never lame. Reversing a China-focused executive order by the incoming administration will be difficult, if not impossible. Realising this, Beijing is scared of what its media calls Trump’s “final madness”.
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CHINA’S MARCH OF FOLLY CONTINUES - The Sunday Guardian Live

Trump is scorching the road to Beijing. Trump knows his legacy in foreign policy will be the China pushback. It will be difficult for Joe Biden to reverse

www.sundayguardianlive.com