India-China 2020 Border conflict

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bajiraopeshwa

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PLA would have attacked already if they are really that much. These bat blood drinkers propoganda worked for decades but now phussssss.
Both US and India would have wargamed the PLA moves and taken appropriate measures by now. You are right that Chinese propaganda worked for decades and China got a free pass in Tibet and Ladakh on the basis that they could rush in forces anytime because of their infrastructure. The picture now seems to have changed drastically with Indian infrastructure on the LAC.

No country on earth got superpower status based on newspaper editorials, China is also not getting it without shedding lots and lots of blood.
 

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PLA troops eat mooncakes and tell Chinese not to worry in message from Indian border
 

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Both US and India would have wargamed the PLA moves and taken appropriate measures by now. You are right that Chinese propaganda worked for decades and China got a free pass in Tibet and Ladakh on the basis that they could rush in forces anytime because of their infrastructure. The picture now seems to have changed drastically with Indian infrastructure on the LAC.

No country on earth got superpower status based on newspaper editorials, China is also not getting it without shedding lots and lots of blood.
Yes China will shed blood in tonne, but is rotten blood of PLA.

by the way


IAF chief Bhadauria does not rule out procurement of more Rafale fighter jets



Decision to buy more Rafale aircraft or new fighter jets under consideration, IAF chief says


India-China border dispute: ‘Further action will depend on ground realities,’ says IAF Chief
 

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Satellite images don't lie. Real images from ground positions reveal what is the truth.

I mentioned this very early on the basis of satellite imagery that blacktop, as well as helmet top, is with Chinese. In fact, we don't even have a presence on the yellow bump (Gurung hill), but 300-400 meters downhill along the southern ridgeline.
When truth hits the disillusioned then they slowly start to realise the despair.

That's what out MEA is doing for our soldiers. And that's why our IA's hands are tied.
 

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'ULFA-I carrying out anti-India activities from China' List of 8 locations in Sagaing region noted


 

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Another tunnel in the Himalayas! Indian Railways completes tunnel work in 10 years
This ambitious railway line project is expected to be completed by 15 August 2022, providing an alternate surface link between the Kashmir Valley and the rest of India.

 

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clearly this is not the right strategy. if the goal is to stop chinese light armor then the 500 crore rs could have invested in procuring best anti tank missiles instead.
Sprut is the only air droppable tank. Looks like this is about Indian para troopers being dropped behind enemy lines, in areas with a light chinese armour concentration.. ( of course the drop happening when IAF offers a window by establishing local air dominance temporarily)..

T-90s are already deployed on the LAC. so this is not about stopping chinese light tank.. Sprut with Arena or Trophy APS will have decent protection against non APFSDS rounds.. Its 125 mm gun packs a punch..
 

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India and Myanmar discuss border security issue

Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/national/india-and-myanmar-discuss-border-security-issue-897543.html

Quad meeting in Japan: How China is 'uniting' countries against itself - Times of India
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This scenario has been talked about by some of our ex-generals whose opinion was that ingress was certainly feasible but egress would be impossible. The ex-generals also have repeatedly said that with 3 divisions China cannot hope to smash its way through.

Like our judges play the tareekh pe tareekh game, China is playing the drill pe drill game. After some time the novelty wears off and people start wondering if PLA will be permanently conducting drills only.
Employment of a battalion-size force is possible by para drops. The same size of the force is feasible to be employed as a heliborne force, both in conjunction with the main attack by about six divisions. Or this force can be used to seize a bottleneck, block the main road, size forward, ALGs or airstrips or attack a VP such as an HQ etc but I have doubt of their being linked up by ground forces in an acceptable time frame.

Such forces though can be used at critical junctures of operations possibly to launch an attack from the reverse direction in conjunction with the main force. But a brigade-size force would be very difficult even if the Chinese may have air assets to do so. The terrain may not permit it. Chinese would be required to use acclimatized troops for such an operation which means they will have to lift troops from the plateau with only half of the lifting capability of aircraft or helicopters. They would require double the air effort. A large number of those aircraft would be brought down by IAF and AD assets.

Such a force can not be launched without Chinese AF gaining a favourable air situation over the tactical area as also if it is a light AD environment. Both do not seem to be anywhere near possibilities. Availability of a large number of reserves with IA would further seal any possibility of such an operation.

Chinese though can use such forces in defensive roles such as the occupation of critical features in the face of advancing Indian Army when they advance towards Rutog / SiquanHe.

Chinese are stagging a drama or practising their troops.
 

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US, India seek to press Sri Lanka into the Quad

Don't know if this is a good idea??
so that Srilanka will find it hard to play china against India.
that will be some sort of game over for SL then..and would bring more security and stability for the "island" nation in the changing global climate scenario
 

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Sprut is the only air droppable tank. Looks like this is about Indian para troopers being dropped behind enemy lines, in areas with a light chinese armour concentration.. ( of course the drop happening when IAF offers a window by establishing local air dominance temporarily)..

T-90s are already deployed on the LAC. so this is not about stopping chinese light tank.. Sprut with Arena or Trophy APS will have decent protection against non APFSDS rounds.. Its 125 mm gun packs a punch..
Well, you can drop those tanks after lifting those from Chandigarh or Pathankot but what after that? Who receives those tanks and who operates those ??,,

The tank crew would require a minimum of 14 days to acclimatize. It may be argued that tank crew can be sent 15 days in advance but does anyone one knows about the area, the situation and the weather 15 days in advance from the start of the operations? Unless you employ The president's Body Guards who are paratroopers too and then spend 14 days acclimatization inside those tanks,,,
We would require a Para Armoured Infantry Regiment.
Easy to say than do.
 

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so that Srilanka will find it hard to play china against India.
that will be some sort of game over for SL then..and would bring more security and stability for the "island" nation in the changing global climate scenario
Exactly what I was thinking. Sri Lanka cannot be permitted to be part of the Chinese plan. Sri Lanka also flip flops a lot and plays games like hosting Chinese submarines (which they did few years back).

Recently someone had posted an article that the next cold war has already started. Lots of countries may join the new NATO. The moves in the Middle East are an harbinger of this.
 

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Well, you can drop those tanks after lifting those from Chandigarh or Pathankot but what after that? Who receives those tanks and who operates those ??,,

The tank crew would require a minimum of 14 days to acclimatize. It may be argued that tank crew can be sent 15 days in advance but does anyone one knows about the area, the situation and the weather 15 days in advance from the start of the operations? Unless you employ The president's Body Guards who are paratroopers too and then spend 14 days acclimatization inside those tanks,,,
We would require a Para Armoured Infantry Regiment.
Easy to say than do.
Well.. if IA is indeed going for air droppable tanks... then maybe they will go for some doctrinal change and have a few tank crew in every Para unit..
Between all this is khayali Pulav.. Not sure whether we are even going for the Sprut..
 

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Exactly what I was thinking. Sri Lanka cannot be permitted to be part of the Chinese plan. Sri Lanka also flip flops a lot and plays games like hosting Chinese submarines (which they did few years back).

Recently someone had posted an article that the next cold war has already started. Lots of countries may join the new NATO. The moves in the Middle East are an harbinger of this.
Ironic goras seemed to engage in tricks to make Lanka a vassal and "counter" or "contain" India, how the times have changed.
Supposedly every gora country out there and their joke organisations were after the Lankans citing human rights, war crime yada yada yada in their Civil War vs LTTE, which led them eventually into those yellow arms.
 
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