India-China 2020 Border conflict

[cereal killer]

A round of applause for our MEA babus!
Remember Armenia supported our stance way before this event but what we do in return? Consumed fevicol....great job NAMard MEA babus!

Forget about China.. This statement is unacceptable. Response about this should straightaway come from Jaishankar. BC enough of this silent treatment. Time to Show Azeris their aukaat

 

[Suryavanshi]

Forget about China.. This statement is unacceptable. Response about this should straightaway come from Jaishankar. BC enough of this silent treatment. Time to Show Azeris their aukaat

this time we don't have business relationship with Azerbaijan like we did with Malaysia so no ramification for business only words could have effect.
These diplomats don't make u feel like them have 1.3billion people behind them.

 

[omaebakabaka]

this time we don't have business relationship with Azerbaijan like we did with Malaysia so no ramification for business only words could have effect.
These diplomats don't make u feel like them have 1.3billion people behind them.

I would rather prefer some sort of material support vs some useless statement. I am sure Armenians will remember that. Statement leads to another statement and so on and pointless waste of time.....with China on Ladakh that is different as we have one on one

 

[Srinivas_K]

A round of applause for our MEA babus!
Remember Armenia supported our stance way before this event but what we do in return? Consumed fevicol....great job NAMard MEA babus!

Pakistan is exporting jihadis to Syria, turkey they might enter Armenia - Azerbaijan conflict.

The statement from Azerbaijan is insignificant, let them fight their wars while we have our own issues to deal with.

During FATF sessions the issue of Pakistani Jihadis fighting in Syria might come up.

 

[sachincba]

A babu is an IAS officer posted at North/South block who weighs at least 150 kg (300 lbs), has at least diabetes, at least 99.1 acres of benami land, who gave at least 30 crore dowry for his daughter's wedding, and took at least 60 crore for his son's (multiply as needed), and who munches at least 15 pure ghee samosas flown in from Varanasi, and drinks a gallon of chai on a normal working day, and who uses important defense files as tissue paper to wipe his greased lips.

A jaichand is any cookie-cutter traitor who needs to be drawn and quartered whilst live telecast on DD National.

That's disconcerting. My own brother is set to join IAS next month.

 

[omaebakabaka]

That's disconcerting. My own brother is set to join IAS next month.

Integrity is a personal attribute more than anything. So one should not worry if they have it.

 

[LDev]

Hearing chatter about India "leasing" hundreds of M777. These will be pulled out of existing US inventory along with a purchase of compatible ammunition from US inventory. Possibly India has the option to negotiate and buy the leased M777 in the future.

The US has a little over 1,000 pieces in its inventory, and India got 25 out of 145 pieces it ordered, with the remaining scheduled to be locally made and delivered by the year 4099 (will miss the chicom cookout).

This will all need US Congress approval and tons of K-street jugglery, so don't celebrate just yet.

Logically India will lease that equipment from the US that it already operates e.g. besides the M777 howitzers, the other candidates are the C-17 in case more airlift capacity is needed, ditto the Chinook and the Apache attack helicopter. It would have been great to have access to US air to surface munitions such as the Small Diameter Bomb, GPU-39 as it's a low cost light weight highly accurate munition which can obliterate spaced out artillery or MBRL pieces or even spaced out fighter aircraft parked on an airbase apron, but unfortunately India does not have any platform which can carry that. That will require US fighters.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Forget about China.. This statement is unacceptable. Response about this should straightaway come from Jaishankar. BC enough of this silent treatment. Time to Show Azeris their aukaat

why make a puny little country important by giving a reply; ignore the inbred rejects
sell weapons to armenians on credit instead.

 

[Lancer]

Second.

Finally someone answers the question, thank you.

 

[Godhimself]

What a dud statement by MEA, koi ghafoora jaisa clown hi hire kar lo

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Logically India will lease that equipment from the US that it already operates e.g. besides the M777 howitzers, the other candidates are the C-17 in case more airlift capacity is needed, ditto the Chinook and the Apache attack helicopter. It would have been great to have access to US air to surface munitions such as the Small Diameter Bomb, GPU-39 as it's a low cost light weight highly accurate munition which can obliterate spaced out artillery or MBRL pieces or even spaced out fighter aircraft parked on an airbase apron, but unfortunately India does not have any platform which can carry that. That will require US fighters.

How about access to US intelligence satellites or B-2 bombers. Let's look at things we don't have yet.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Logically India will lease that equipment from the US that it already operates e.g. besides the M777 howitzers, the other candidates are the C-17 in case more airlift capacity is needed, ditto the Chinook and the Apache attack helicopter. It would have been great to have access to US air to surface munitions such as the Small Diameter Bomb, GPU-39 as it's a low cost light weight highly accurate munition which can obliterate spaced out artillery or MBRL pieces or even spaced out fighter aircraft parked on an airbase apron, but unfortunately India does not have any platform which can carry that. That will require US fighters.

Trick is to get them give us something on the likes of US-USSR lend-lease practically free but equipment that still in good shape returned by going after the same strategic enemy. This should be how we should play....it would aid their ecnomy also pumping money into it and also make us replace some of the russian weaponry with US

 

[LDev]

Integrity is a personal attribute more than anything. So one should not worry if they have it.

Noble statement, but you underestimate the power of group think as well as the temptation of easy money because so many people around you are doing it. I have seen people with complete integrity lose their way and their integrity once they enter such an environment. Requires somebody with an iron will to buck the trend.

 

[Hari Sud]

With China at LAC, an impasse has been reached. They are not going back from Finger 4 to Finger 8 without a fight. India is not vacating the heights in Chusul and few occupied right above the Chinese Finger 4 position. Former Gen Hooda Recipe has suggested confidence building measures to appease Chinese to withdraw. None of his opinions will work. In fact these confidence building measures were in place when Chinese moved the LAC westward at a few places like Fingers area and in Despang. A firefight may be the solution. Alternatively we should look for gaps in Chusul - Damchok area and move the LAC farther east and put the Chinese road work within artillery range. Same should be explored in Galwan valley but it is useless effort, with the terrain of the situation. But a lot is possible in the Depsang plains where the Chinese have moved the LAC westwards a bit. That is a small natural flat ground at 14-15,000 feet. That is an excellent tank country for heavies forcing Chinese lights out of the area. At the moment with Chinese involved in a big face off opposite Taiwan and winter approaching, they are in no position to strike elsewhere. That is where where their Sinkiang-Tibet road is closest to LAC. Get close their road network and they get nervous.

So where do we stand. The Chinese military high command wrongly assumed that coming winter will force India out at -40 degrees. That could have been the truth 60 years back. Not anymore..... India has prepared well for the winter. It is the Chinese who did not come prepared. They in April of this year came with conscript soldiers for an exercise and stayed. They never realized that these troops are not prepared for winter. That is their big dilemma. Winter fight from Indian Mountain Divisions and fire & fury corps is a regular stuff.

Hence should be appease Chinese by offering them confidence building measures or force the movement of LAC eastwards at places of our convenience. A shooting option in the middle of winter in Despang plains is another possibility.

In these circumstances, China is about loose a big part of their prestige. They never expected India to stand up but India has stood up even better than them, hence their dilemma.

 

[Kumata]

Damn and here I thought I was the only one who hates sarkari affsars. Well my bad experience is because of the block CO who refused to issue residential certificate without ghoos and I didn't get scholarship.

you have a company..

 

[prasadr14]

Hence should be appease Chinese by offering them confidence building measures or force the movement of LAC eastwards at places of our convenience. A shooting option in the middle of winter in Despang plains is another possibility.

In these circumstances, China is about loose a big part of their prestige. They never expected India to stand up but India has stood up even better than them, hence their dilemma.

India should not appease China at any cost.

They started this shit, if they lose men or prestige, it's their own doing.
In fact we should just screw them so that they remember this lesson.

If not, they will come again and again & we will appease again and again.

fk them tight once and the lesson would be learnt.

 

[LDev]

How about access to US intelligence satellites or B-2 bombers. Let's look at things we don't have yet.

Stealth is holy grail, specially broadband stealth capable planes like the B-2. The US itself has only 20 of them and is very careful of where it even parks them overnight, so no chance of the B-2. US intelligence is probably already being supplied e.g. geo spatial data via BECA will enable India to get automated contour generating maps to program PGMs and COMCOSA allows real time data including satellite data to be shared.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Noble statement, but you underestimate the power of group think as well as the temptation of easy money because so many people around you are doing it. I have seen people with complete integrity lose their way and their integrity once they enter such an environment. Requires somebody with an iron will to buck the trend.

Integrity is the first thing and then you require smartness and cleverness to navigate society.

Not everyone bends and there are many examples.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Stealth is holy grail, specially broadband stealth capable planes like the B-2. The US itself has only 20 of them and is very careful of where it even parks them overnight, so no chance of the B-2. US intelligence is probably already being supplied e.g. geo spatial data via BECA will enable India to get automated contour generating maps to program PGMs and COMCOSA allows real time data including satellite data to be shared.

B-2's are in Diego Garcia so no real need to lease; they seem to be giving us a cover against
China if the use their bombers in Ladakh??

 

[shankyz]

Sig-Sauer 716's @ LAC