India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Forces will give befitting reply to those who try to encroach, says DM Rajnath Singh.

Kadi Ninda no xyz by RM :facepalm:
Gem from Ninda Turtle :)

"India believes in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam and never resorted to any invasion or encroachment but it will not tolerate if someone tried to encroach an inch of Indian territory as then Indian defence forces know how to give a befitting reply"- DM Rajnath Singh.
 

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Gem from Ninda Turtle :)

"India believes in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam and never resorted to any invasion or encroachment but it will not tolerate if someone tried to encroach an inch of Indian territory as then Indian defence forces know how to give a befitting reply"- DM Rajnath Singh.
We need to kick out all these shanti loving, ahimsa worshipping uncles low on testosterone out of leadership. The first sound of conflict they have their legs shaking like a newborn calf, and we expect them to lead our country.

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Hard to say at this juncture, as it will be un- announced just like previous year's visit.
More koi nhi ghusa? Nah he better focus on elections.
 

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We need to kick out all these shanti loving, ahimsa worshipping uncles low on testosterone out of leadership. The first sound of conflict they have their legs shaking like a newborn calf, and we expect them to lead our country.



More koi nhi ghusa? Nah he better focus on elections.
People at top cant just use mc bc like us .. They have certain way of talking .. There is a reason china popularized panda to counter that dragon image .. It serves the propaganda purpose . Follow the action to judge . No country in recent past has dared to do what we did by occupying tops on LAC .
 

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as much as i love to bitch and whine . we all know GOI is not all "kadi ninda" tm

1) we occupied F4 heights first , sucks that PLA was vastly better equipped and kicked us out.

2) we occupied galwan area beyond LAC in May itself, clash was in June , then for god knows what reason we withdrew , 2 weeks before clash (i suspect MEA hand)

3) then the successful kailash range thing.

Issue now is depsang / raki nala . doesnt look like PLA will budge , they are adding more and more and more and more structures/ everyday.

sucks but what if they wont move ? , what options do we have ? .

IMHO feels like a deer staring into headlights of a incomming car . frozen , not taking any steps , just watching the car come closer and closer.
 
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as much as i love to bitch and whine . we all know GOI is not all "kadi ninda" tm

1) we occupied F4 heights first , sucks that PLA was vastly better equipped and kicked us out.

2) we occupied galwan area beyond LAC in May itself, clash was in June , then for god knows what reason we withdrew , 2 weeks before clash (i suspect MEA hand)

3) then the successful kailash range thing.

Issue now is depsang / raki nala . doesnt look like PLA will budge , they are adding more and more and more and more structures/ everyday.

sucks but what if they wont move ? , what options do we have ? .

IMHO feels like a deer staring into headlights of a incomming car . frozen , not taking any steps , just watching the car come closer and closer.
Can you please explain point 2
 

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chink desperation coincides with infra push,it is not lost that with 3 tunnels starting from sonamarg till zojila pass was recently reviewed by gadkari where he declared all 3 will be finished before election in dec 2023 ,it will give india all weather connectivity to ladakh for first time ,one more such strategic project of underground tunnel in brahmputra hence much more difficult to sabotage is also noted by the lizard ,with chink probing is trying to salvage pride of losing han little emperors in galwan only acknowledged by chink communist party after a year to control the situation,with evergrande looming & acute power outages ccp hasn't been in control of situation in recent times,let them have delusion that they are in control,they know what we can do in some area especially chumbi valley,himachal,reorientation of 1 strike corps & full operationalisation of 17 mountain strike corps also gives an edge if chinks try anything
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?? Wot

1) we occupied F4 heights first , sucks that PLA was vastly better equipped and kicked us out.
We did not, Chinkis tried to occupy it, ITBP (from Maj. Dhan Singh Thapa post) went to clash with them with nothing but wooden sticks (some didn't even have that), were beaten black and blue by their superior numbers, and kicked out. Its video exists, we did a geo-location of it last year.

The awesome thing was this happened in late April to early May and ITBP just swallowed this incident and under-reported Chinese aggression & incursion which lead to slow and delayed deployment of army in large numbers. This mistake of ITBP has been frowned upon by many defense veterans.

2) we occupied galwan area beyond LAC in May itself, clash was in June , then for god knows what reason we withdrew , 2 weeks before clash (i suspect MEA hand)
This never happened bro, we were right at the LAC (remember the helipad on that peninsula of PP14). We did cross LAC during & after the clash briefly but withdrew later by the morning.

3) then the successful kailash range thing.
Credit goes to our awesome soldiers and military planning.

Issue now is depsang / raki nala . doesnt look like PLA will budge , they are adding more and more and more and more structures/ everyday.

sucks but what if they wont move ? , what options do we have ? .

IMHO feels like a deer staring into headlights of a incomming car . frozen , not taking any steps , just watching the car come closer and closer.
GoI has no incentive to act right now, as no land is under direct encroachment of Chinese currently. Y-junc/Raki nala is disputed, we had very loose control over it, unlike F4-F3 which was strictly ours but the Chinese occupied it.

So unless China takes some overt offensive steps, nothing will happen. Ball is in China's court right now.
 

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Can you please explain point 2
we occupied area around PP14 in galwan , from around may 15 - 22 .

then withdrew , dont know y .

chinese used this as propaganda to claim we were at fault ,

we occupied the galwan peaks at around same time.

?? Wot



We did not, Chinkis tried to occupy it, ITBP (from Maj. Dhan Singh Thapa post) went to clash with them with nothing but wooden sticks (some didn't even have that), were beaten black and blue by their superior numbers, and kicked out. Its video exists, we did a geo-location of it last year.

The awesome thing was this happened in late April to early May and ITBP just swallowed this incident and under-reported Chinese aggression & incursion which lead to slow and delayed deployment of army in large numbers. This mistake of ITBP has been frowned upon by many defense veterans.



This never happened bro, we were right at the LAC (remember the helipad on that peninsula of PP14). We did cross LAC during & after the clash briefly but withdrew later by the morning.



Credit goes to our awesome soldiers and military planning.



GoI has no incentive to act right now, as no land is under direct encroachment of Chinese currently. Y-junc/Raki nala is disputed, we had very loose control over it, unlike F4-F3 which was strictly ours but the Chinese occupied it.

So unless China takes some overt offensive steps, nothing will happen. Ball is in China's court right now.
Was talking about the F4 vid the chinese released , looks to me like we are holding peaks , they are downridge.

IMHO galwan thing is also true , check below , may 17 2020 vs may 22 2020.

pretty much inline with chinese sat image , except they took it out of context .

bizzare but IMHO we played nice and withdrew , then they pushed forward , then we cross LAC again in june 10 , then withdrew aagain , then clash.

 
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