India-China 2020 Border conflict

[lixun]

I think this is a model made by a certain park to attract tourists, and this is more like Z19

 

[mist_consecutive]

Don't think it is a toy, seems like a prototype. I am highly skeptical of how much stealth a helicopter can achieve because the abundance of rotating and pointy parts reflect radar waves like mirrors.

Even the US ditched their stealth helicopter program because it was not worth it.

 

[Jimih]

Upgrading

 

[sorcerer]

In continuation with the ongoing deployment of Indian Navy ships in the South China Sea, #INSRanvijay and #INSKora undertook #BilateralMaritimeExercise with Vietnam People's Navy frigate VPNS Ly Thai To(HQ-012) on 18 Aug 21

 

[sorcerer]

INDIAN NAVY UNDERTAKES BILATERAL MARITIME EXERCISE WITH VIETNAM PEOPLE’S NAVY


Posted On: 18 AUG 2021 4:42PM by PIB Delhi



In continuation with ongoing deployment of Indian Navy ships in the South China Sea, INS Ranvijay and INS Kora undertook bilateral maritime exercise with Vietnam People's Navy (VPN) frigate VPNS Ly Thai To(HQ-012) on 18 Aug 21. The bilateral interaction aims to consolidate the strong bond shared by the two navies and would be another step towards strengthening India-Vietnam defence relations.


The Indian Naval ships arrived at Cam Ranh, Vietnam on 15 August 21 for harbour phase which included professional interactions with VPN maintaining extant Covid-19 protocols. The sea phase included surface warfare exercises, weapon firing drills and helicopter operations. Regular interactions between the two navies over the years have enhanced their interoperability and adaptability. This has ensured a quantum jump in the complexity and scale of professional exchanges. This visit also holds special importance as Indian Naval ships celebrated the country’s 75th Independence Day in Vietnam.


Defence ties between the two countries have been robust. In June this year, the two countries undertook a defence security dialogue and Indian Naval ships have been frequently visiting Vietnamese Ports. Training cooperation between the two navies has been on the rise over the years.


INS Ranvijay is a guided-missile destroyer and the latest of the Rajput class. The ship was commissioned on 21 Dec 1987 and is equipped with an array of weapons and sensors which includes Surface to Surface Missile, Anti Air Missiles and guns, Heavy Weight Torpedoes, Anti Submarine Rockets and capable of carrying Anti Submarine Heli-copter (Kamov 28). INS Ranvijay is in company with INS Kora which is the lead ship of Kora class missile corvette. The ship is fitted with Surface-to-Surface missiles and Anti Air Guns.

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[sorcerer]

Vietnam’s first consul office in India opens in Bengaluru
Special Correspondent

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Vietnam opened its first-ever consul office in India in Bengaluru and appointed N.S Srinivasa Murthy as its consul.
India is the 26th investment partner of Vietnam and the latter is looking at expanding this collaboration further, said Phan Sanh Chau, Ambassador of Vietnam in India, on Wednesday. Mr. Chau said the consul was opened to improve investment ties between the two countries.

Vietnam’s first consul office in India opens in Bengaluru

Bengaluru News:Vietnam’s first consul office in India opens in Bengaluru

www.thehindu.com

noice way to start a new office vietnam!! , with a naval exercise in south china sea with India

 

[indiatester]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-dubai-holds-uyghurs/articleshow/85360990.cms

A villa used temporarily can't be called a "secret jail", but raises interesting questions on whether Chinese have started using foreign soil to carry out their own agenda, OR, were they able to get blessings for such an operation by UAE. Both of which indicate things to come in future.

'China has secret jail in Dubai, holds Uyghurs'
AP / Aug 16, 2021, 10:29 IST
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File photo: Chinese soldiers rally while training in -20 degrees Celsius conditions in Kashgar in northwestern China's Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region.
DUBAI: A young Chinese woman says she was held for eight days at a Chinese-run secret detention facility in Dubai along with at least two Uyghurs, in what may be the first evidence that China is operating a so-called "black site" beyond its borders.
The woman, 26-year-old Wu Huan, was on the run to avoid extradition back to China because her fiance was considered a Chinese dissident. Wu told The Associated Press she was abducted from a hotel in Dubai and detained by Chinese officials at a villa converted into a jail, where she saw or heard two other prisoners, both Uyghurs.
She was questioned and threatened in Chinese and forced to sign legal documents incriminating her fiance for harassing her, she said. She was finally released on June 8 and is now seeking asylum in the Netherlands.
While "black sites" are common in China, Wu's account is the only testimony known to experts that Beijing has set one up in another country. Such a site would reflect how China is increasingly using its international clout to detain or bring back citizens it wants from overseas, whether they are dissidents, corruption suspects or ethnic minorities like the Uyghurs.
The AP was unable to confirm or disprove Wu's account independently, and she could not pinpoint the exact location of the black site. However, reporters have seen and heard corroborating evidence including stamps in her passport, a phone recording of a Chinese official asking her questions and text messages that she sent from jail to a pastor helping the couple.
China and Dubai did not respond to multiple phone calls and requests for comment.
Yu-Jie Chen, an assistant professor at Taiwan's Academia Sinica, said she had not heard of a Chinese secret jail in Dubai, and such a facility in another country would be unusual. However, she also noted that it would be in keeping with China's attempts to do all it can to bring select citizens back, both through official means such as signing extradition treaties and unofficial means such as revoking visas or putting pressure on family back home.
"(China) really wasn't interested in reaching out until recent years," said Chen, who has tracked China's international legal actions.
Chen said Uyghurs in particular were being extradited or returned to China, which has been detaining the mostly Muslim minority on suspicion of terrorism even for relatively harmless acts like praying. Wu and her fiance, 19-year-old Wang Jingyu, are not Uyghur but rather Han Chinese, the majority ethnicity in China.
Dubai has a history as a place where Uyghurs are interrogated and deported back to China, and activists say Dubai itself has been linked to secret interrogations. Radha Stirling, a legal advocate who founded the advocacy group Detained in Dubai, said she has worked with about a dozen people who have reported being held in villas in the UAE, including citizens of Canada, India and Jordan but not China.
"There is no doubt that the UAE has detained people on behalf of foreign governments with whom they are allied," Stirling said. "I don't think they would at all shrug their shoulders to a request from such a powerful ally."
However, Patrick Theros, a former U.S. ambassador to Qatar who is now strategic advisor to the Gulf International Forum, called the allegations "totally out of character" for the Emiratis.
On May 27, Wu said, she was questioned by Chinese officials at her hotel and then taken by Dubai police to a police station for three days. On the third day, she said, a Chinese man who introduced himself as Li Xuhang came to visit her. He told her he was working for the Chinese consulate in Dubai, and asked her whether she had taken money from foreign groups to act against China.
Li Xuhang is listed as consul general on the website of the Chinese consulate in Dubai. The consulate did not return multiple calls asking for comment and to speak with Li directly.
Wu said she was handcuffed and put in a black Toyota. After half an hour, she was brought inside a white villa with three stories, where rooms had been converted into individual cells, she said.
Wu was taken to her own cell, with a heavy metal door, a bed, a chair and a white fluorescent light that was on all day and night. She said she was questioned and threatened several times in Chinese.
She saw another prisoner, a Uyghur woman, while waiting to use the bathroom once, she said. A second time, she heard a Uyghur woman shouting in Chinese, "I don't want to go back to China, I want to go back to Turkey." Wu identified the women as Uyghurs, she said, based on their distinctive appearance and accent.
The guards also gave her a phone and a sim card and instructed her to call her fiance and pastor Bob Fu, the head of ChinaAid, a Christian non-profit, who was helping the couple.
Wang confirmed to the AP that Wu called and asked him for his location. Fu said he received at least four or five calls from her during this time, a few on an unknown Dubai phone number, including one where she was crying and almost incoherent. The AP also reviewed text messages Wu sent to Fu at the time, which are disjointed and erratic.
The last thing Wu's captors demanded of her, she said, was to sign documents testifying that Wang was harassing her.
"I was really scared and was forced to sign the documents," she told the AP.
After Wu was released, she flew to Ukraine, where she was reunited with Wang. After threats from Chinese police that Wang could face extradition from Ukraine, the couple fled again to the Netherlands. Wu said she misses her homeland.
"I've discovered that the people deceiving us are Chinese, that it's our countrymen hurting our own countrymen," she said.

 

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-dubai-holds-uyghurs/articleshow/85360990.cms

A villa used temporarily can't be called a "secret jail", but raises interesting questions on whether Chinese have started using foreign soil to carry out their own agenda, OR, were they able to get blessings for such an operation by UAE. Both of which indicate things to come in future.

'China has secret jail in Dubai, holds Uyghurs'
AP / Aug 16, 2021, 10:29 IST
FACEBOOKTWITTERLINKEDINEMAIL
AA

File photo: Chinese soldiers rally while training in -20 degrees Celsius conditions in Kashgar in northwestern China's Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region.
DUBAI: A young Chinese woman says she was held for eight days at a Chinese-run secret detention facility in Dubai along with at least two Uyghurs, in what may be the first evidence that China is operating a so-called "black site" beyond its borders.
The woman, 26-year-old Wu Huan, was on the run to avoid extradition back to China because her fiance was considered a Chinese dissident. Wu told The Associated Press she was abducted from a hotel in Dubai and detained by Chinese officials at a villa converted into a jail, where she saw or heard two other prisoners, both Uyghurs.
She was questioned and threatened in Chinese and forced to sign legal documents incriminating her fiance for harassing her, she said. She was finally released on June 8 and is now seeking asylum in the Netherlands.
While "black sites" are common in China, Wu's account is the only testimony known to experts that Beijing has set one up in another country. Such a site would reflect how China is increasingly using its international clout to detain or bring back citizens it wants from overseas, whether they are dissidents, corruption suspects or ethnic minorities like the Uyghurs.
The AP was unable to confirm or disprove Wu's account independently, and she could not pinpoint the exact location of the black site. However, reporters have seen and heard corroborating evidence including stamps in her passport, a phone recording of a Chinese official asking her questions and text messages that she sent from jail to a pastor helping the couple.
China and Dubai did not respond to multiple phone calls and requests for comment.
Yu-Jie Chen, an assistant professor at Taiwan's Academia Sinica, said she had not heard of a Chinese secret jail in Dubai, and such a facility in another country would be unusual. However, she also noted that it would be in keeping with China's attempts to do all it can to bring select citizens back, both through official means such as signing extradition treaties and unofficial means such as revoking visas or putting pressure on family back home.
"(China) really wasn't interested in reaching out until recent years," said Chen, who has tracked China's international legal actions.
Chen said Uyghurs in particular were being extradited or returned to China, which has been detaining the mostly Muslim minority on suspicion of terrorism even for relatively harmless acts like praying. Wu and her fiance, 19-year-old Wang Jingyu, are not Uyghur but rather Han Chinese, the majority ethnicity in China.
Dubai has a history as a place where Uyghurs are interrogated and deported back to China, and activists say Dubai itself has been linked to secret interrogations. Radha Stirling, a legal advocate who founded the advocacy group Detained in Dubai, said she has worked with about a dozen people who have reported being held in villas in the UAE, including citizens of Canada, India and Jordan but not China.
"There is no doubt that the UAE has detained people on behalf of foreign governments with whom they are allied," Stirling said. "I don't think they would at all shrug their shoulders to a request from such a powerful ally."
However, Patrick Theros, a former U.S. ambassador to Qatar who is now strategic advisor to the Gulf International Forum, called the allegations "totally out of character" for the Emiratis.
On May 27, Wu said, she was questioned by Chinese officials at her hotel and then taken by Dubai police to a police station for three days. On the third day, she said, a Chinese man who introduced himself as Li Xuhang came to visit her. He told her he was working for the Chinese consulate in Dubai, and asked her whether she had taken money from foreign groups to act against China.
Li Xuhang is listed as consul general on the website of the Chinese consulate in Dubai. The consulate did not return multiple calls asking for comment and to speak with Li directly.
Wu said she was handcuffed and put in a black Toyota. After half an hour, she was brought inside a white villa with three stories, where rooms had been converted into individual cells, she said.
Wu was taken to her own cell, with a heavy metal door, a bed, a chair and a white fluorescent light that was on all day and night. She said she was questioned and threatened several times in Chinese.
She saw another prisoner, a Uyghur woman, while waiting to use the bathroom once, she said. A second time, she heard a Uyghur woman shouting in Chinese, "I don't want to go back to China, I want to go back to Turkey." Wu identified the women as Uyghurs, she said, based on their distinctive appearance and accent.
The guards also gave her a phone and a sim card and instructed her to call her fiance and pastor Bob Fu, the head of ChinaAid, a Christian non-profit, who was helping the couple.
Wang confirmed to the AP that Wu called and asked him for his location. Fu said he received at least four or five calls from her during this time, a few on an unknown Dubai phone number, including one where she was crying and almost incoherent. The AP also reviewed text messages Wu sent to Fu at the time, which are disjointed and erratic.
The last thing Wu's captors demanded of her, she said, was to sign documents testifying that Wang was harassing her.
"I was really scared and was forced to sign the documents," she told the AP.
After Wu was released, she flew to Ukraine, where she was reunited with Wang. After threats from Chinese police that Wang could face extradition from Ukraine, the couple fled again to the Netherlands. Wu said she misses her homeland.
"I've discovered that the people deceiving us are Chinese, that it's our countrymen hurting our own countrymen," she said.

Meanwhile, we keep bailing terrorists the very next day they got caught

 

[Jimih]

China rapidly constructing infrastructure taking undue advantage of suspended pilgrimage route by constructing a SAM site as well as other infrastructure on the banks of the Mansarovar Lake.

 

[Kumata]

China rapidly constructing infrastructure taking undue advantage of suspended pilgrimage route by constructing a SAM site as well as other infrastructure on the banks of the Mansarovar Lake.

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I am wondering what purpose these serve right on border. Incase of a conflict, these will be first one to be taken out and are sitting ducks...either these are Dummy sites or just show off

 

[Jimih]

I am wondering what purpose these serve right on border. Incase of a conflict, these will be first one to be taken out and are sitting ducks...either these are Dummy sites or just show off

I think next skirmishes may be at Arunachal border.
Huge infrastructure issues.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[fire starter]

 

[mist_consecutive]

Is anything happening in Sikkim?

 

[Jimih]

Is anything happening in Sikkim?

With China on mind, Indian Army hold Bofors gun drills in East Sikkim

Watch: With China on mind, Indian Army hold Bofors gun drills in East Sikkim

Amid border tensions with China, Indian army has conducted a bofors gun drill in Eastern Sikkim which borders the communist state in India's north-east region. The Indian Army has deployed the bofors guns in all the frontlines to meet any challenge. The Bofors guns were inducted into Indian Army...

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Is anything happening in Sikkim?

Insas and WW2 era helmets

 

[FalconSlayers]

Is anything happening in Sikkim?

Muh INSAS

 

[mist_consecutive]

Insas and WW2 era helmets

Muh INSAS

What now everybody spoiled coz we got few Sigs? Aukaat me rahte hai, INSAS is still the main battle rifle for us, we nearly went to war on China with INSAS last year.

 

[FalconSlayers]

What now everybody spoiled coz we got few Sigs? Aukaat me rahte hai, INSAS is still the main battle rifle for us, we nearly went to war on China with INSAS last year.

SiGs were procured for frontline guys

 

[mist_consecutive]

SiGs were procured for frontline guys

Yeah, I hear you brother, I am seeing Sig's hanging on the shoulders of gate security guards of Southern command boys (Assam Regt.), while all our frontline soldiers don't have it.
Distribution is not uniform I guess.

Also to consider that reinforcements/reserve troops pushed may not have Sigs with them.