India-China 2020 Border conflict

[notaname]

Agreed!
Maybe there has been a skirmish at LAC with losses to both sides...
Something that the Govt doesn't want people to know....

@Manoj345
Please don't fuel any conspiracy theory first double check for any info.

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[notaname]

Please don't fuel any conspiracy theory first double check for any info.

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[Marliii]

 

[Thundering13th]

Won't have much affect IMHO

 

[Jimih]

I don't think china's main aim is to capture tawang only. The focus will be tawang but the area is well defended. Currently there are 2 divisions protecting the tawang axis. The main concern is central arunachal which is lagging far behind in terms of border infra. Ex Jorging an ITBP fwd post in upper siang dist close to ngyichi is 90km away from the nearest road head. It takes days for jawans to reach the fwd post on foot. Posts in dibang valley such as baluwa, bruni, lama camp, omkar andrala, etc are about 30-60kms from the nearest road head. Even in the lohit Valley posts like rochham etc are quite far from roadhead. Some of these posts are cobs. Policy makers and defence experts have always maintained that tawang is the only aim and thats why an entire corps was defending tawang sector where as only the dah div was taking care of rest of arunachal. Things have changed with the induction of 56div which is now looking after central arunachal. But infrastructure is non existent in these areas and it will be a cause of concern for us in case things go south for us.

Yes right, infrastructure is the issue in AP. Hope it gets resolved fast

 

[Jimih]

ISR being conducted

 

[Manoj345]

@Manoj345
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Seems yu are right on this particular incident, However we are on a defence forum where one of our interets among others is to attempt to connect dots from available sources and try and reach a reasonable conclusion on happenings, which my or maynot be borne out in time. This is not fueling conspiracy. There is no point in having a forum just to collate news feeds if you dont have the capacity to discuss the same. Cheers

 

[Jimih]

Infrastructure changes can be seen.

 

[notaname]

@Manoj345
I am not bashing ypu or collecting news items for my information I am just correcting one of yours wrong assumption just because you quoted one of causality and then based your argument on that if you had done it without quoting that news item it would have been better and I would not bother to correct you for that matter.

 

[Thundering13th]

Yes right, infrastructure is the issue in AP. Hope it gets resolved fast

Modi has made some positive approaches let's see if his govt can see the campaign through. To add on to your Buddhist buffer state argument. Remember almost entire if not all population residing close to indo China border is Buddhist. Be it kaho, taksing, gelling, mechuka, monigong etc. The local majority is Buddhist. So not just tawang but the "entire" belt is majority buddhist

 

[DownWithCCP]

Modi has made some positive approaches let's see if his govt can see the campaign through

We have made tremendous progress in terms of border infra wrt our northern borders, can't say the same about our eastern borders though(along AP).

 

[Thundering13th]

We have made tremendous progress in terms of border infra wrt our northern borders, can't say the same about our eastern borders though(along AP).

Rightly pointed out. Sadly AP which is more strategic than Ladakh tbh is neglected on the basis of "only tawang" doctrine

 

[Varoon2]

Could also go into infrastructure section:

India builds highest motorable road in the world in eastern Ladakh: All you need to know | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: The Border Roads Organisation (BRO) has constructed the highest motorable road in the world at 19,300 feet at Umlingla Pass in Eastern Lada.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[DownWithCCP]

Rightly pointed out. Sadly AP which is more strategic than Ladakh tbh is neglected on the basis of "only tawang" doctrine

I mean if you look at it from a different perspective, Indians successfully anticipated where the next Chinese moves are going to take place and they focused on those areas, also the three services and the intelligence might have come to a conclusion considering all factors(iirc there was a wargame that took place) that eastern borders don't need as much focus as the northern borders, ideally the best case scenario was looking into both the borders but maybe this was the most optimal solution.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Batmuncher Wumao Forum comrade’s idiotic musing.

When Indian Navy will hit the real Harpoon then they will cry the hell out of their arse.

 

[Thundering13th]

I mean if you look at it from a different perspective, Indians successfully anticipated where the next Chinese moves are going to take place and they focused on those areas, also the three services and the intelligence might have come to a conclusion considering all factors(iirc there was a wargame that took place) that eastern borders don't need as much focus as the northern borders, ideally the best case scenario was looking into both the borders but maybe this was the most optimal solution.

Let's look it it this way. The performance of IA in 1962 was far better in ladakh when compared to their performance in AP than NEFA. AP is a state of valleys and rivers mostly flowing north to south roughly. Each district is named after a river course. Valleys are divided by ridge lines throughout. So if you want to go from one valley to another which say is at a distance of 50km as the crow flies extends to almost 300kms in reality coz you need to then go to the foothills cross over to the next valley and then travel upwards towards the border. Firstly tawang is the only axis which defended"well" and this was way before chinks moved in ladakh. Tawang is the most well defended sector in the entire McMahon line. But we must not be ostriches. Look at china. In dibang valley they intrude almost 20km on an average before they are confronted by the Indian patrol.20kms

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Batmuncher Wumao Forum comrade’s idiotic musing.
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When Indian Navy will hit the real Harpoon then they will cry the hell out of their arse.
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Na , say kh 35 .
Harpoon is for p 8 only.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Batmuncher Wumao Forum comrade’s idiotic musing.
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When Indian Navy will hit the real Harpoon then they will cry the hell out of their arse.
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Apne jawab diya usko

 

[FalconSlayers]

Apne jawab diya usko

Let those Ni Haos seethe, drinking own urine results in this kind of behaviour.

 

[Jimih]

Look at china. In dibang valley they intrude almost 20km on an average before they are confronted by the Indian patrol.20kms

There is also Chinese settlement in contested territory in Upper Subansiri district.

Since 1962 China has built a new village with 101 homes on the banks of River Tsari Chu in the Upper Subansiri district, a disputed area.