India-China 2020 Border conflict

[The Shrike]

Nyingchi to Jorging fwd post

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They have built up roads that wind their way up the ridge almost right up to the border (McMahon line) at multiple places. The closest road from that forward post is only ~15km.
(Armchair hat on) This area is perfect for a large scale salami slice operation, especially between now and the next year or two when we are still building the basic road connectivity. First step would be a make a dash to capture the heights - since they have roads almost to the border and we need to hike upto 10's of km, this should be relatively easy and probably can be done overnight with complete surprise. Then roll down the valley to the Indian posts end try to evict them (preferably without using fire arms), or at least pin them down. Then start extending roads to our side, this will probably take a couple of weeks, but don't let things escalate to a full scale shooting war. Pick a time that is most unfavourable for us like the monsoon when a lot of the roads get muddy or even washed away. After the initial skirmishes the one with the superior logistics, who can induct forces faster, will very likely win. With such a huge disparity they may be able to move in large numbers of troops and equipment even from their "mainland". And if most of these troops are able to cross over that mountain range into the valley on our side unmolested, they may not even need high altitude acclamation as the valleys on our-side are 6000ft or less. In a no shooting scenario I would go for a 5 to 15km slice, in a hot war I would aim to take 50-70km slice (i.e. most of upper AP).

 

[Jimih]

Has entered SCS

 

[fire starter]

 

[Jimih]

Interestingly, Singapore voted for Philippines and Thailand voted for China.

But Bangladesh, Myanmar and Sri Lanka voted for India.

 

[SavageKing456]

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Should we be happy or sad this changes nothing in actuality the road is still there close to the border right
@mokoman @mist_consecutive

 

[DownWithCCP]

This is quite an interesting perspective, neatly ties in with the fact that we have been speeding up border infra development in these regions like never before, because in any new "agreement" (political) b/w India and China, China will make it a point to make sure that India stops border infra development.

 

[DownWithCCP]

This is quite an interesting perspective, neatly ties in with the fact that we have been speeding up border infra development in these regions like never before, because in any new "agreement" (political) b/w India and China, China will make it a point to make sure that India stops border infra development.

However a counter opinion to this could be the differential in infra developed is too high and it cannot be met by pushing talks ahead by a few months, critical roads can be built in this time though.

 

[SavageKing456]

Important to note is this comes at a time when india has send it's naval assets to SCS which could easily trigger China,hard to believe them

 

[Jimih]

This is quite an interesting perspective, neatly ties in with the fact that we have been speeding up border infra development in these regions like never before, because in any new "agreement" (political) b/w India and China, China will make it a point to make sure that India stops border infra development.

India taking out a leaf from China's own playbook I guess.

 

[TakAman]

Important to note is this comes at a time when india has send it's naval assets to SCS which could easily trigger China,hard to believe them

That's called Defensive Offense.
The only way to stop the bully is to bully them back.

If India had not send it's navy to SCS, China would have delayed this meeting again.

 

[fire starter]

Important to note is this comes at a time when india has send it's naval assets to SCS which could easily trigger China,hard to believe them

Bat Munchers just want a face saving withdrawal.

 

[mandestiny]

Can anybody compile, what actually happened on ground ?

 

[Lost user]

However a counter opinion to this could be the differential in infra developed is too high and it cannot be met by pushing talks ahead by a few months, critical roads can be built in this time though.

Guess Abhijit means India building roads very close to LAC while continuing with the stand off.. Because, once disengagement happens in a particular area, you are expected to stop building roads close to the LAC..
India will continue Infra construction in depth areas for years to come, and disengagement should not slow down the pace..

 

[Jimih]

Guess Abhijit means India building roads very close to LAC while continuing with the stand off.. Because, once disengagement happens in a particular area, you are expected to stop building roads close to the LAC..
India will continue Infra construction in depth areas for years to come, and disengagement should not slow down the pace..

Will have to wait for some Sat images though.

 

[Lost user]

Will have to wait for some Sat images though.

Mokoman is on it..

 

[Jimih]

China is in deep shit right now

 

[Jimih]

Statement out

 

[sorcerer]

PRESS RELEASE DISENGAGEMENT AT PP 17A


Posted On: 06 AUG 2021 5:04PM by PIB Delhi



1. As conveyed earlier this week, the twelfth round of talks between the Corps Commanders of India and China were held on 31 July 2021 at Chushul Moldo Meeting Point in Eastern Ladakh.


2. The two sides had a candid and in-depth exchange of views on resolution of remaining areas related to disengagement along the Line of Actual Control in the Western Sector of India-China border areas. As an outcome of the meeting, both sides agreed on disengagement in the area of Gogra. The troops in this area have been in a face-off situation since May last year.


3. As per the agreement, both sides have ceased forward deployments in this area in a phased, coordinated and verified manner. The disengagement process was carried out over two days i.e. 04 and 05 August 2021. The troops of both sides are now in their respective permanent bases.


4. All temporary structures and other allied infrastructure created in the area by both sides have been dismantled and mutually verified. The landform in the area has been restored by both sides to pre-stand off period.


5. This agreement ensures that the LAC in this area will be strictly observed and respected by both sides, and that there is no unilateral change in status quo.


6. With this one more sensitive area of face-off has been resolved. Both sides have expressed commitment to take the talks forward and resolve the remaining issues along the LAC in the Western Sector.


7. The Indian Army along with ITBP is totally committed to ensure the sovereignty of the nation and maintain peace & tranquility along the LAC in the Western Sector.

 

[Mantospace]

PRESS RELEASE ISENGAGEMENT AT PP 17A


Posted On: 06 AUG 2021 5:04PM by PIB Delhi



1. As conveyed earlier this week, the twelfth round of talks between the Corps Commanders of India and China were held on 31 July 2021 at Chushul Moldo Meeting Point in Eastern Ladakh.


2. The two sides had a candid and in-depth exchange of views on resolution of remaining areas related to disengagement along the Line of Actual Control in the Western Sector of India-China border areas. As an outcome of the meeting, both sides agreed on disengagement in the area of Gogra. The troops in this area have been in a face-off situation since May last year.


3. As per the agreement, both sides have ceased forward deployments in this area in a phased, coordinated and verified manner. The disengagement process was carried out over two days i.e. 04 and 05 August 2021. The troops of both sides are now in their respective permanent bases.


4. All temporary structures and other allied infrastructure created in the area by both sides have been dismantled and mutually verified. The landform in the area has been restored by both sides to pre-stand off period.


5. This agreement ensures that the LAC in this area will be strictly observed and respected by both sides, and that there is no unilateral change in status quo.


6. With this one more sensitive area of face-off has been resolved. Both sides have expressed commitment to take the talks forward and resolve the remaining issues along the LAC in the Western Sector.


7. The Indian Army along with ITBP is totally committed to ensure the sovereignty of the nation and maintain peace & tranquility along the LAC in the Western Sector.

So it going back to pre- april 2020 status ?