India-China 2020 Border conflict

Deadtrap

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After my hope and trust in our armed forces were lost after we did nothing after Balakot, this will be the final tombstone on my faith, if we just accept their demands and do nothing this year.
Chill bro. As Joe said Ops Snow Leopard is still on. Also COAS is on record saying few disputes are yet to be resolved so won’t be an easy path for the Chinese bat eaters.
Yes but now Chinese will try to portray as if everything is resolved at the border.
 

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Doesn't matter, whatever arithmetic is done it has Baba and Co. spooked of the paper dragon Supa Powa Factory of the World whatever, it seems to have caused a pandemic of Dhoti-shiveritis among the top guys of the country.

Also Baba will be shown the door if he doesn't give the people what they have been voting him for, that is materialistic prosperity and strong defense policy, by Babaji's peaceful and ghandiwadi behavior, and 0 control on any form of media, he is digging his own grave come 2024.

If this was a no-blink staring match, we have blinked and pointed our face downwards.

The greatest flaw of the Indian state is apart from the traitors and dalals, the actual "decision makers" get spooked too easily, and prefer preserving the status quo, even if it is changed by gandus like the Chinks.
Problem is not one man but the entire establishment. We are not setup to fight wars and that will not change till a war is imposed upon us.

China if they are smart will never go above the threshold that forces us to act. They were foolish in Galwan.

Modi will not be forced out as loss of territory via salami slicing is not a concern for the masses that vote for him. That's the problem - Baba is secure and has no competition.

Even if your enemy is weak. It's no use. All they have to do is sneak attack and salami slice again. History is lit with incidents like this. And we won't do shit.
Ya we won't till it's a big enough grab that our establishment can't push under the rug. China is an arrogant power, they will mesa up and we will be forced to fight.

Then the paper tiger will be further exposed.

But what comes after the first round of battle with the chinks.. Yes, the Chinese will not be able to make major gains in a war in the Himalayas, but, India too won't make any major gains in territory occupied.. as holding it would be a monumental task.. The American soldiers when they entered WW2 in North Africa, were simply overwhelmed by Rommel's battle hardened forces. BUT, the advantage did not last long..
Considering the possibility that round 1 of China-India war, will be a draw.. China given its economic and military size will be ready for round 2, in a few years.. Will we be ?
What ultimately got Japan during WW2, was America's unmatched industrial capacity.. From 4 aircraft carriers at the beginning of the Pacific war to 40 on the day of Japan's surrender..
China is no US. Nor in the people and nor in their location and determination. No US soldier I have heard of ran like headless chicken as Chini have done on several occasions.

WWII was a different era. There was nothing that could attack US industrial base while China's can be blown to smithereens with a few dozen missiles in the present time. They will not get the chance to build up their capacity.

Also unlike US, China has been foolish enough to make enemies of virtually all its neighbours. This will cost them big time in a real large scale conflict.
 

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Meanwhile, America has gone full woke.


US govt issues notification for sale of F-16s to Pakistan


Missing Donny Trump yet?
 

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Meanwhile, America has gone full woke.


US govt issues notification for sale of F-16s to Pakistan


Missing Donny Trump yet?
We need LCA mark 2 fast...also we should make sure that we dont use american engines in it..
 

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But, India and Indians .. especially Hindus have so much more in common today than 70 years ago.. Hindi too is gaining currency here in the south, with each passing day. Also, add the higher fertility rates in the north, and migration from North to South..
Ethnicities are not born, but made.. And BJP / RSS long term mission is to make an ethnic group out of all Hindus in India.. And I admire them for it..
Average literacy rate in BIMARU states is around 77%, 😄 maybe RSS can teach those people how to read and write.

Pakis also had fancy ideas of 1 culture , didnt turn out well for them.

Chinese have accomplished more even when they had similar GDP to ours , in terms of literacy , HDI and pretty much everything else . we have only ourselfs to blame , cant even do basic governance.
 

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Public announcement of USN FONOPS was more about signaling India not to make a deal with China at US/Quad expense at today's meeting.. US essentially telling India not to take US for granted.. and US too can be in the business of publicly embarrassing India, if India decides to take the US for a ride.. you know the whole opportunistic behavior by India, about going cool on Quad, in exchange for China letting Modi off the hook by disengaging..
I like this, difficulty that India finds itself in.. US is telling India not to use American strength as leverage, to gain concessions from China.. :bplease:
Oh please , has russia done any freedom exercise in india EEZ. no it hasnt. our ATV project is there because of russsians. ofcourse they took a lot of money for that but usa will not do that even if give them double the money we gave it to russia. i admire chinese for one thing that they got usa right . usa and other western countries are super scared to upset china because of there exports but when it comes to india we let them in india without any incentives like idiots. we have as big market as china. Not to mention usa is already interfering in india internal matters , giving free hands to christian missionaries to convert people in india. most of the money come from these so called western countries. modern day colonialism .
To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” — Henry kissinger. our relationship with usa should be hi hellow and thats it. nothing more nothing less. if you are expecting usa to fight our wars then you are delusional
 

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Even a second grader could tell that the only reason china agreed for peace in pangong tso was because we had managed to secure a dominating position there.

By resolving the issue at the point instead of whole border and giving up on our advantages we have once again shown to the world how dumb we are when it comes to negotiations.

Now that our advantage is nullified and status quo restored in pangong tso the Chinese have no reason to give up their gains in other areas where we hold no advantage.

This time they will also be much more prepared and careful to prevent any further ops by us.

How to squander a gain and opportunity is something we continue to excel at.
 

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@Deadtrap , was looking up border area on planet explorer . entire chinese mainland and india-border is censored.

any way to unblock it ?

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if you have time look up this coords

34.371741,78.885422

its small chinese presence inside LAC , found by @mist_consecutive
 

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Oh please , has russia done any freedom exercise in india EEZ. no it hasnt. our ATV project is there because of russsians. ofcourse they took a lot of money for that but usa will not do that even if give them double the money we gave it to russia. i admire chinese for one thing that they got usa right . usa and other western countries are super scared to upset china because of there exports but when it comes to india we let them in india without any incentives like idiots. we have as big market as china. Not to mention usa is already interfering in india internal matters , giving free hands to christian missionaries to convert people in india. most of the money come from these so called western countries. modern day colonialism .
To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” — Henry kissinger. our relationship with usa should be hi hellow and thats it. nothing more nothing less. if you are expecting usa to fight our wars then you are delusional
USA will not fight India's wars.. but even substantial logistics, ammo, and diplomatic help, during a war, will have an impact on the course of an India-China war... India-US relations are not close enough today, to warrant such US help today, and to reach there would demand India handing over much of its foreign policy autonomy to US.. What Modi is essentially telling China is.. "Let me off the hook in Ladakh, and India won't become a US vassal"..
And by the way, Russia has an economy 60 percent of Indian GDP.. and is only a regional great power in the military domain. It does not have the capability to conduct sustained FONOPS in the Arabian sea, sea of Japan, South china sea, Tasman sea.. round the year.. And unlike Superpower US, Russia does not seek, nor is capable of seeking global primacy.. So, it's definitely easier to deal with Russia, as compared to the US..
 

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looks like your 14 free trial period is over. From my university account I have access to the imagery.
😁 created new account , can see all locations except china , excluding beijing .

weird for them to block china + india border for trial users.
 

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😁 created new account , can see all locations except china , excluding beijing .

weird for them to block china + india border for trial users.
Is a "conflict zone" so makes sense for them to attempt to milk the curious into "subscribing" or whatever monetization scheme they have.
 

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