IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

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I don't see how you can know that is part of a missile as opposed to some other kind of debris.
It looks alot like the middle of R-77 body to me, of course, i am not saying that the absolute truth or you have to believe me, i could be wrong about that since burned body aren't easy to identify.
And explain this shit to me: This is shot by your citizens over POK. Slow it down to .25x and watch at the 8 sec mark. An object gets jettisoned followed by two ejections. Guess what that object is oh great invincible PAF F-16 fanboy , that shit is the canopy! Part of the ACES II ejection sequence. No Indian jets employ such a system .. :biggrin2: :pound: Forget your pilots, they're worth shit anyway, at the least tell us what happened to that poor canopy.
Honestly, to be fair, i don't think you can make out what is ejected in that video, or even the number of ejection in such a blurry vid
 

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The most explicit evidence yet, all four missiles recovered. None fired. no f-16 killed

Lies exposed, again.

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How do you know that those missiles are from the Mig - 21 ? It could have been fired from other Mig-21 also ?
Real photo of 2 (near) intact missiles released & questions were asked...

Suddenly a new photo with a random cylinder & random cone (with engines from other 2 missiles?)
Very convenient indeed.:hehe::hehe::hehe:
 
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Real photo of 2 (near) intact missiles released & questions were asked.

Suddenly a new photo with a random cylinder & random cone (with engines of the other 2 missiles?).. Very convenient indeed.
:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
These Pakistanis are so wretched people they lie through their teeth ... This F***** is so butt hurt that he is bend upon using fake pictures to prove his point ...

PAF is first air force in the world to lose a F-16 to a Mig-21 ... They can not take it even after 20 days they are posting fake pictures...
 

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@mods please ban this madrassa educated Pappu ... he is spamming in this forum with fake pictures ...
 

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The most explicit evidence yet, all four missiles recovered. None fired. no f-16 killed

Lies exposed, again.

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Hahaha.......................

Pakistanis must be the biggest jokers that are there. Do these Green-Idiots know the sequence in which an AAM intercepts a Target?

An AAM has its warhead stored just aft of mid-section. Those who understand the sequence to interception knows that a seeker-head gets detached before warhead explodes. This is done in order to maximize the impact on Target. And finding that seeker in 20 day must not be that hard especially when Pakis know where to look. Re F-16 wreckage.

Following video gives a graphic impression of the sequence of events till successful interception by an AAM.

Watch between 03:10-03:18 in ultra slow motion and do pause at 03:14 for a clear impression.

 
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The most explicit evidence yet, all four missiles recovered. None fired. no f-16 killed

Lies exposed, again.

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If this picture is real then it does appear that the 4 missiles from the downed Indian Mig-21 are intact, meaning the Mig-21 was not able to fire a single missile. The 4 seekers of the 4 missiles are clear from the photos so it cannot be argued that the fragments come from only 2 or 3 missiles.

But why is there no PAF official or official PAF press con to accompany this presentation of wreckage? That would make it official. Without it it's hard to authenticate these items.
 

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If this picture is real then it does appear that the 4 missiles from the downed Indian Mig-21 are intact, meaning the Mig-21 was not able to fire a single missile. The 4 seekers of the 4 missiles are clear from the photos so it cannot be argued that the fragments come from only 2 or 3 missiles.

But why is there no PAF official or official PAF press con to accompany this presentation of wreckage? That would make it official. Without it it's hard to authenticate these items.
Because the moment PAF officially tries to use these images to support its claim, it fears India would sit down and release the entire aerial dogfight evidence, inclusive of F-16 going down. People forget that FLIR-OLS onboard Su30s, data link from radar data of all the aircraft, AWACS target tracking, Ground Control Intercept radars, all of them recorded the engagement and each of their data individually would be adequate to confirm the kill. There would also be SAR evidence from the MKIs of the wreck, as well as Drone imagery (can take good resolution images even 7-8 km within Indian airspace) of the crash sites.

There is also the danger for PAF that US might finally be forced to release its own evidene of the downing of the F-16. None of these scenarios ends well for PAF. Hence this backhanded attempt at winning a perception war at home, whilst avoiding a frontal evidence based counter challenge to Indian claims.
 

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If this picture is real then it does appear that the 4 missiles from the downed Indian Mig-21 are intact, meaning the Mig-21 was not able to fire a single missile. The 4 seekers of the 4 missiles are clear from the photos so it cannot be argued that the fragments come from only 2 or 3 missiles.

But why is there no PAF official or official PAF press con to accompany this presentation of wreckage? That would make it official. Without it it's hard to authenticate these items.
If the missiles were not fired atleast they would have displayed the charred and burn out body of the R73. Since, that is. Not there as indicated by the poster above it seems those are the only remains of the R73 after the hit?
 

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Hahaha.......................

Pakistanis must be the biggest jokers that are there. Do these Green-Idiots know the sequence in which an AAM intercepts a Target?

An AAM has its warhead stored just aft of mid-section. Those who understand the sequence to interception knows that a seeker-head gets detached before warhead explodes. This is done in order to maximize the impact on Target. And finding that seeker in 20 day must not be that hard especially when Pakis know where to look. Re F-16 wreckage.

Following video gives a graphic impression of the sequence of events till successful interception by an AAM.

Watch between 03:10-03:18 in ultra slow motion and do pause at 03:14 for a clear impression.

Good find Rahul.........
Infact we must thank him to give evidence, that Abhai did fire R73 missile on F16.
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Hahaha.......................

Pakistanis must be the biggest jokers that are there. Do these Green-Idiots know the sequence in which an AAM intercepts a Target?

An AAM has its warhead stored just aft of mid-section. Those who understand the sequence to interception knows that a seeker-head gets detached before warhead explodes. This is done in order to maximize the impact on Target. And finding that seeker in 20 day must not be that hard especially when Pakis know where to look. Re F-16 wreckage.

Following video gives a graphic impression of the sequence of events till successful interception by an AAM.

Watch between 03:10-03:18 in ultra slow motion and do pause at 03:14 for a clear impression.

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 

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The most explicit evidence yet, all four missiles recovered. None fired. no f-16 killed

Lies exposed, again.

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I am sorry to say, you just reinforced our claim of Mig-21 Bison shooting down your F-16.

abhi.jpg

So, what we see in this image?

1. Damaged missile seeker of R - 73.
2. Mangled & damaged exhaust part of R - 73.
3. Seemingly intact part of R - 73.

What actually happened?
Missile seeker from the leftmost missile is swapped with missile seeker of the rightmost missile.
The leftmost missile is actually fully intact since the aircraft crashed with it, and it has not been fired.
Rightmost R-73, however, has been fired. Everyone will ask, oh ! Then why are missile parts still intact? I say, look at this image -
FT0133487.jpg

http://vayu-sena-aux.tripod.com/other-Parakram-IAF-UAV-Wreckage.html

This is the seeker head of Aim-9L AAM used to down Indian Searcher drone on June 7, 2002. Yes, the seeker's head is intact. An air-to-air missile warhead is not exactly that powerful to rip-off and shred every part of the missile. A2A missiles have an annular/fragmentation warhead, which focuses on shredding apart soft aluminum bodies of planes over a large blast radius, rather than decimating.

Now, compare this to my image.
abhi.jpg


1. Damaged (remember, replaced with the rightmost missile) seeker, signs of warhead explosion.
2. Mangled and burn damage on missile exhaust, clear signs of an explosion.

And, where is the mid section of the missile ? Oh, yes, its not present because it ripped apart your dear F-16 :hehe:
 
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