IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[Neptune]

Clearly an MKI, the front dipped nose, longer fuselage, LERX, swept wing, so obvious

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Lol, you do realize how a big of a utters moron and imbecile you look like? That looks like a giant distorted blob but when you are desperate you see things and act irrationally. If anything that looks like a delta wing which the MKI is not, but I refrain from commenting on uncorroborated photoshopped blobs..... Pakistanis dug themselves a big whole and instead of just admitting they were wrong or quietly forgetting the insident, they double down by adding more conspiracies by posting photoshopped images and talking about downing Israelis.

First thing is first, where is the wreckage of MKI, India has almost 400 people per square km, yet no photos or video of pilots, aircraft wreckage, or smoke plume exit.

Pakistan is unable to coraborate any MKI kill by providing radar data, satellite imagery, HUD footage, radio intercepted or anyone for that matter. They can only parade a Mig-21, it's pilot and some missiles. Funny how they go through all the trouble of parading the Mig-21 but can't provide any evidence of any downed MKI. I guess when you have Bahagadad Bob as a spokesman and illiterate airheads you will believe anything


Pakistanis slowly going senial and plundging deeper and deeper into fringe conspiracies

 

[Narasimh]

Clearly an MKI, the front dipped nose, longer fuselage, LERX, swept wing, so obvious

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Right.. Also don't forget about the C-17 you shot down :

 

[vampyrbladez]

Clearly an MKI, the front dipped nose, longer fuselage, LERX, swept wing, so obvious

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Chutiyam sulphate, an MKI has canards!

That dropped nose is the inlet of the F 16. Paki ****** got confused! :bounce:

 

[ataru09]

Clearly an MKI, the front dipped nose, longer fuselage, LERX, swept wing, so obvious

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That looks faker than Kim Kardashian's butt.

 

[Anil47]

Why don't we build something like Mig21 but with new composite frame and new avionics and engine.

 

[Enquirer]

That looks faker than Kim Kardashian's butt.

Dude Kim's butt is 100% Armenian and real

 

[asianobserve]

Grass was burned. See the background where Pak soldiers are standing all burned out area. View attachment 33393

Once again, this debris is not from a GE F110 engine. This is most likely part of a Mig-21 fuselage.

 

[Willy3]

Once again, this debris is not from a GE F110 engine. This is most likely part of a Mig-21 fuselage.

He is not claiming that the debris belonged to F16, he is just pointing out that wherever the F16 crashed there would be burned grass or vegetation like this pic

 

[Aghore_King]

Why don't we build something like Mig21 but with new composite frame and new avionics and engine.

LCA Mk 1 is much more than that, so no need.

 

[Anil47]

LCA Mk 1 is much more than that, so no need.

So that means for WVR engagement against Paki F16 LCA can be deployed

 

[Neptune]

Clearly an MKI, the front dipped nose, longer fuselage, LERX, swept wing, so obvious

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Breaking news glorious Pakistani Air Force shoots down Santa, the Pakistani military aka Baghdad Bob said so.

And I thought it was impressive after they claimed they anhialated the Israeli Air Force. I am still wondering why no Pakistanis can argue any of my points? Why are they so scared? In other forums they just ban and delete inconvenient members that challenge their pseudo claims. In this forum where moderators won't give them special treatment they simply post propaganda but never can back their propaganda or answer legitimate questions.

Again. Where is the SU-30? Why has no one found any wreckage? Why did no one see any smoke plumes? Why is there no photos of the pilots?

Why has Pakistan not released HUD footage to confirm its farce kill? Why Has Pakistan not revealed satellite images of the SU-30? Why has no third party found SU-30 wreckage with satellites or other means? Why has Pakistan not revealed radar data proving it downed an SU-30? Why has Pakistan not released cockpit voice recordings or intercepted Indian radio communications proving something was shot down?

Why does Pakistan lie so much and blatantly take credit for kills they never had?

 

[patriots]

So that means for WVR engagement against Paki F16 LCA can be deployed

Hmm why not....
With elta jammer and
Derby and astra as bvr...and r73 as ccm...
Tejas mk1a will be a curse to those old f16s

 

[Anil47]

Hmm why not....
With elta jammer and
Derby and astra as bvr...and r73 as ccm...
Tejas mk1a will be a curse to those old f16s

In that case, LCA can also be troublesome for JF17s which Pakistanis have recently got from China. Especially for WVR. AFAIK, LCA has got better maneuverability and more powerful engine than what they have on JF17

Because it is confirmed now that aerial engagement will not always remain to BVR and would end up with dog fights.

 

[maomao]

In that case, LCA can also be troublesome for JF17s which Pakistanis have recently got from China. Especially for WVR. AFAIK, LCA has got better maneuverability and more powerful engine than what they have on JF17

Because it is confirmed now that aerial engagement will not always remain to BVR and would end up with dog fights.

JF 17 lacks credible electronic warfare suite and other advance features. Please don't compare this chinese junk jf17 with a credible- much superior Tejas! Anyways, Mig21s can shootdown paki F16s, guess what will Tejas do to PAF!

 

[Anil47]

JF 17 lacks credible electronic warfare suite and other advance features. Please don't compare this chinese junk jf17 with a credible- much superior Tejas! Anyways, Mig21s can shootdown paki F16s, guess what will Tejas do to PAF!

I am excited about LCA.
I think the airforce is confident now about LCA after the 27th Feb engagement. If Mig 21 can blow the Paki airforce then LCA is of much worth.May be this is why they said that it is ready for combat now.
https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/indias-tejas-light-combat-aircraft-is-combat-ready/

 

[patriots]

In that case, LCA can also be troublesome for JF17s which Pakistanis have recently got from China. Especially for WVR. AFAIK, LCA has got better maneuverability and more powerful engine than what they have on JF17

Because it is confirmed now that aerial engagement will not always remain to BVR and would end up with dog fights.

Ya...jets will jamm each other's missile....
Bdw....when sukhoi was able to jaam amraam.s........then what will happen to those Chinese missile s
And an old mig21 was able to shot down f16...
Then definitely a new tejas will be able to shoot down jf17,f16

 

[WARREN SS]

F-16 blk 15 ADS VS LCA MK1


F-16

1. Thrust/weight: 1.095 (1.24 with loaded weight & 50% internal fuel
   
2. Maximum g-load:9G
   
3. Hardpoints 8
4. Missiles Aim-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120C AMRAAM
5. APG-68 v9 F-16 Block 52 is 105 km against RCS of 5m square.
6. RCS 3.8m2 is For Air loaded F-16
7. Service ceiling: 50,000+ ft (15,240+ m)

LCA MK1

1. Thrust/weight: 0.94
2. g-limits: +8/−3.5 g
3. Hard point 6 extended 8 in FOC
4. Service ceiling: 16,000 m(52,500 ft)
5. Missiles Derby And R-73 & ASRAAM python -4
6. EL/M-2032 Range 100km(5m2 size plane) ..
   
7. RCS 0.5 meter square Loaded 1 m2

Comparison

APG-68 V9 (F-16 C/D/I For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 46~54 km+ Advantage LCA
Derby NEZ is 40 Km And And Aim-120c 35 km(though Lower radar Signature can affect the Performance of NeZ) Advantage LCA

High Service Ceiling of LCA Advantage LCA

WvR advantage goes to F-16 because it Has higher g Load + higher TVR than LCA Can be negated by Using ASRAAM With DASH V HMDS in future if added

 

[vampyrbladez]

F-16 blk 15 ADS VS LCA MK1


F-16

1. Thrust/weight: 1.095 (1.24 with loaded weight & 50% internal fuel
   
2. Maximum g-load:9G
   
3. Hardpoints 8
4. Missiles Aim-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120C AMRAAM
5. APG-68 v9 F-16 Block 52 is 105 km against RCS of 5m square.
6. RCS 3.8m2 is For Air loaded F-16
7. Service ceiling: 50,000+ ft (15,240+ m)

LCA MK1

1. Thrust/weight: 0.94
2. g-limits: +8/−3.5 g
3. Hard point 6 extended 8 in FOC
4. Service ceiling: 16,000 m(52,500 ft)
5. Missiles Derby And R-73 & ASRAAM python -4
6. EL/M-2032 Range 100km(5m2 size plane) ..
   
7. RCS 0.5 meter square Loaded 1 m2

Comparison

APG-68 V9 (F-16 C/D/I For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 46~54 km+ Advantage LCA
Derby NEZ is 40 Km And And Aim-120c 35 km(though Lower radar Signature can affect the Performance of NeZ) Advantage LCA

High Service Ceiling of LCA Advantage LCA

WvR advantage goes to F-16 Has higher g Load + higher TVR than LCA Can be negated by Using ASRAAM in future if added

Compare with F 16 Blk 52 Tejas has high ITR and HMDS with low RCS. Pretty evenly matched. MK2 will roflstomp Blk 70.

 

[patriots]

F-16 blk 15 ADS VS LCA MK1


F-16

1. Thrust/weight: 1.095 (1.24 with loaded weight & 50% internal fuel
   
2. Maximum g-load:9G
   
3. Hardpoints 8
4. Missiles Aim-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120C AMRAAM
5. APG-68 v9 F-16 Block 52 is 105 km against RCS of 5m square.
6. RCS 3.8m2 is For Air loaded F-16
7. Service ceiling: 50,000+ ft (15,240+ m)

LCA MK1

1. Thrust/weight: 0.94
2. g-limits: +8/−3.5 g
3. Hard point 6 extended 8 in FOC
4. Service ceiling: 16,000 m(52,500 ft)
5. Missiles Derby And R-73 & ASRAAM python -4
6. EL/M-2032 Range 100km(5m2 size plane) ..
   
7. RCS 0.5 meter square Loaded 1 m2

Comparison

APG-68 V9 (F-16 C/D/I For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 46~54 km+ Advantage LCA
Derby NEZ is 40 Km And And Aim-120c 35 km(though Lower radar Signature can affect the Performance of NeZ) Advantage LCA

High Service Ceiling of LCA Advantage LCA

WvR advantage goes to F-16 because it Has higher g Load + higher TVR than LCA Can be negated by Using ASRAAM With DASH V HMDS in future if added

ard point 6 extended 8 in FOC(bhai ye samajh nehi aya...

I only know...,..that mk1a will have a dual rack...
All tejas has same hard point s

 

[WARREN SS]

ard point 6 extended 8 in FOC(bhai ye samajh nehi aya...

I only know...,..that mk1a will have a dual rack...
All tejas has same hard point s

only IOC Version Cannot be added with hard-point extension like dual rack but FOC version can Similar to MK1a