IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[Defcon 1]

Being a troll is nothing to be proud of...

He doesn't have any other skills or knowledge. He is a pakistani after all.

 

[itsme]

Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.


http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2019/12/changing-dynamics-of-air-warfare-in.html

Lmao!! These pakis are unbelievable, can you tell me one simple thing. GOP showed three craters from apparently spice impact. But, mirages fired 5 spice bombs on three targets, even if we believe your fantasy, and all bombs missed. Where are the other two craters? And moreover, they were unchallenged and came back without firing a single A2A. On 27th IAF outnumbered held off an entire strike package limiting it inside Paki airspace, which dint result in any casualties or material damage on the ground, dodged multiple AMRAMMS and even took the fight inside POK even though it was the PAF on the offensive. All pakis are the same, living in lala land. They believe all wars were won by them and yet Kashmir is still with us. likewise no major fedayeen attacks on bases or suicide attacks on convoys after Balakot. Someone in Pakistan got the message loud and clear.

 

[rone]

Stop feeding troll, avoid him and his brain fart posts at all cost, if no Indian AWACS present how come IAF chief produced screen shot of AWACS situational awareness screen, plus the radar culter jamming work for pluse doplar radrs not for multi frequency active electronically scanned array radrs, and da20 mainly for communication jamming dont have ability to jam the aesa radar's, rather than mig21 all other IAF air asset's using Al500a ODL( Indian version of link16) which support voice link too, the reason IaF didn't fire any missiles becoz all 2 su30mki and m2k and mig29 upg later arrived in counter BvR mode in which only close combat solution recommended also premature fire like lock after lunches not encouraged and not included in defensive ROE, if mki shoot down happens it won't be covered up becoz of size of aircraft and possibile location of crash if it happens,

 

[IndiaRising]

so now Pakis are scared of SSMs...... how would PAF make fake claims if planes cannot get up in the air in first place?

 

[Foxbat]

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/
Missile flight data fed back to the F-16 fire control computer in real-time, seemed to indicate that the missile had made its mark. Whether the Su-30 had met a violent end, or was damaged and landed back, or the aircrew had been able to kinetically defeat the missile altogether, remains moot. Hard evidence by way of aircraft wreckage or details of aircrew casualties has not been available so far.

Thanks for sharing the article, Kaisar Tufail says it is unconfirmed if the Su-30MKI was hit so how did the PAF award a kill? Is he correct or you or the PAF? You have been been advocating a kill and now you are posting an article by a ex-PAF chief which states otherwise? :bounce:


"Meanwhile, higher in the skies, the sole Su-30 remaining in the area flew helter-skelter, something quite baffling, considering that these are multi-crew fighters endowed with very powerful radars, and were armed to the teeth with an array of four R-77 active radar-guided BVR missiles, and four R-73 infra-red seeking dogfight missiles each. "

How does this guy know the weapons load of the Su-30MKI when it was at beyond visual range? Was he there on the Indian side watching ?

 

[angeldude13]

The Pakistani's can go to any extent in fake propaganda on the internet and unfortunately some people believe it without verifying.

Here is a "National Geographic Documentary" on Indian attack on Pakistan Abhinandan Varthaman 27 February 2020

82k views and over 1.4k likes!


Only problem is that National Geographic never made this documentary and this is a 100% Fake ! :bounce:

Hahahaha....... some .. in the comment section tried to pass as a gora using a western name but lost it with his poor Pakistani vocab.
Pakistanis are hilarious.

 

[aditya g]

I just reported this video via the "report" button. Urge others to do the same - lets take down this bastard.

The Pakistani's can go to any extent in fake propaganda on the internet and unfortunately some people believe it without verifying.

Here is a "National Geographic Documentary" on Indian attack on Pakistan Abhinandan Varthaman 27 February 2020

82k views and over 1.4k likes!


Only problem is that National Geographic never made this documentary and this is a 100% Fake ! :bounce:

 

[vishnugupt]

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/

Immediately after the failed Indian strike, Pakistanis clamoured for revenge as expected, and Prime Minister Imran Khan duly promised it. The dilemma of escalation weighed heavily on the political and military leadership, and there was consensus that the response had to be as measured and controlled as was possible. Even the number of bombs planned for delivery were to be in equal measure

. The PAF was well-prepared for a whole range of targeting options, and it settled for a stand-off attack similar to the IAF’s, with the important difference that it would be against military targets in the Poonch-Rajauri-Naushera Sector in Indian Held Kashmir (IHK).

The IAF stood guard on the night of 26 February when the PAF’s riposte was expected. Extensive Combat Air Patrols (CAP) were flown by the IAF, with surveillance support from ground radars, as well as an AEWCS aircraft anchored over Adampur. When the PAF did not show up till sunrise of 27 February, the IAF eased off from its highest alert state, and waited for the following night

. A pair of Su-30MKI was patrolling near Srinagar, while a pair of Mirage 2000I was patrolling east of Udhampur. PAF’s deception worked splendidly when its strike package of four Mirage 5PA/IIIDA of No 15 Squadron and two JF-17 of No 16 Squadron, duly supported by a big swarm of escorts and patrolling fighters (a mix of F-16A/B and JF-17), cluttered the scopes of IAF’s ground radars at 0920 hours.[3] Working at the rear of the fighter package were PAF’s SAAB Erieye AEWCS aircraft, and the DA-20 Falcon in which electronic warfare wizards sat ready with their arcane tricks.





Two vintage – but still quite capable – Mirage 5PA, each armed with one H-4 stand-off bomb[4], along with two JF-17, each armed with two Mk-83 Range Extension Kit (REK) bombs[5], headed towards their respective targets in southern-western IHK. It was a bright and clear morning, with excellent visibility after the previous night’s rain. Each Mirage 5PA was followed by its communication control aircraft, a dual-seat Mirage IIIDA, which was to steer the H-4 after launch through data link, while the JF-17s’ Mk-83 REK were to be launched in the autonomous ‘fire and forget’ mode. With the H-4 having a range of over 120 km, and the Mk-83 REK having at least half of that, the bombs offered safety to the launch aircraft as these could be delivered from well inside own territory, and the aircraft could then break off. The Mirage IIIDA control aircraft, however, had to continue flying towards the target, refining the H-4 bomb’s flight path till impact.

The bomb can be steered with great accuracy, as the high resolution image of the target seen by the bomb’s seeker head is constantly relayed to the control aircraft. Since the purpose of the mission was essentially to demonstrate that Pakistan had the resolve, as well as the capability of responding in kind, it was decided that there was no compelling need to pick the front door of a brigade commander’s office, or the air shafts of soldiers’ bunkers. General area bombing of open spaces in military garrisons near the Line of Control (LOC) in IHK was, therefore, agreed upon.[6] It was expected that this ‘abundance of restraint’ would prevent mass carnage in the Indian military garrisons, which could otherwise lead to a chain of escalatory actions, and spiral into a very dangerous all-out war under a nuclear overhang.


When the PAF struck the garrisons within 32 hours of IAF’s abortive air strike at Balakot, it came like a ‘shot across the bow’ and had the desired sobering effect on the Indian military commanders.[7] General Bipin Rawat, the Indian Chief of Army Staff, was forced to take a pause from his regular harangue about sorting out Pakistan. Unsurprisingly, he has not uttered any more threats to Pakistan, ever since.

Sqn Ldr Hasan Siddiqui

PAF’s approaching strike force had, meanwhile, rung frantic alarms on the Indian air defence radars, and patrolling fighters were directed to intercept them. Struggling to sift through the degraded communications environment, IAF fighters were unable to understand the instructions of their air defence controllers. An F-16 pair led by Sqn Ldr Hasan Siddiqui of the elite Combat Commanders’ School, was vectored towards two approaching IAF fighters flying in an extended trail formation. The very long range at which the adversary aircraft appeared on the F-16 radar scopes suggested that these were big targets, most likely Su-30MKI. After sampling the target data and confirming valid firing parameters, Hasan let go an AIM-120C (AMRAAM)[8] at 0936 hours, and promptly announced ‘Fox Three,’ the brevity code for an active radar-guided missile launch.

Missile flight data fed back to the F-16 fire control computer in real-time, seemed to indicate that the missile had made its mark. Whether the Su-30 had met a violent end, or was damaged and landed back, or the aircrew had been able to kinetically defeat the missile altogether, remains moot. Hard evidence by way of aircraft wreckage or details of aircrew casualties has not been available so far. Debris of the AIM-120C missile was, however, picked up and displayed on Indian television in a ludicrous tri-services press conference, as the IAF brass unsportingly complained about PAF using F-16s in what was actually a telling response to its own aggression.

Soon after the shoot-out, all hell broke loose in the Indian camp, as revealed by radar and VHF radio monitoring. In the ensuing confusion, the Terminal Air Defence Unit at Srinagar Air Force Station reported a slow speed radar contact heading towards it. As leaked reports suggest, the contact was taken for a hostile Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, and the Chief Operations Officer ordered it to be shot down. At 0940 hours, an Israeli-origin Spyder surface-to-air missile was launched, but its target turned out to be an IAF Mi-17 V-5 helicopter belonging to the Srinagar-based No 154 Helicopter Unit. The helicopter crashed near Budgam, and six aircrew, along with a civilian on the ground, lost their lives in a case of morale-shattering fratricide.

Meanwhile, higher in the skies, the sole Su-30 remaining in the area flew helter-skelter, something quite baffling, considering that these are multi-crew fighters endowed with very powerful radars, and were armed to the teeth with an array of four R-77 active radar-guided BVR missiles, and four R-73 infra-red seeking dogfight missiles each. The Su-30 abruptly called ‘Bingo’ (low on fuel) and exited the area at high speed after only 25 minutes of flight, despite having an endurance of at least two hours while on routine air patrols. As per radio monitoring, it transpired that the two Su-30s had earlier failed to synchronize their data links and had been unable to provide any mutual support by way of radar data sharing.

In the on-going fracas, the Mirage 2000 formation on patrol was pulled back. In all probability, this was done to prevent these high value aircraft from being targeted by more BVR shots; however, one is also inclined to believe that the panic-striken pilots may have opportunely declared some kind of weapon system failures. Whatever the reason, these state-of-the-art Mirages were of no help in warding off the PAF fighters, despite being equipped with MICA missiles that were comparable in performance to the F-16s’ AMRAAMs. As for operational commanders on the ground, it needs no guessing that they had gone into a paralytic freeze, and needed time to gather their wits. When the decision for action finally came, it was a pathetic one: to use the MiG-21 Bisons – virtually as cannon fodder, it may be added.

Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan

At 0930 hours, two pairs of MiG-21 Bisons of No 51 Squadron were scrambled successively from Srinagar and nearby Awantipur, to boost up IAF’s diminishing presence in the air. A senior pilot, Wg Cdr Abhinandan ‘Nandu’ Varthaman (callsign ‘Alpha One’), along with his wingman, Sqn Ldr Anubhav Vyas, was directed by the ground radar to “turn 160 (degrees),” towards a patrolling pair of PAF fighters.Flying low and masked by the Parmandal Range, Abhinandan had tried to pull a surprise by abruptly popping up from behind the hills. Apprehending PAF's snooping capabilities, he had even switched off his Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) transponder. He also kept his radar controller posted about his ground position by reporting it in pre-arranged codes.

However, Abhinandan remained oblivious of the fact that unlike ground based radars, PAF's AEWCs and high flying fighters had no line of sight issues, and could clearly see him on their radars. Moments after he called out his ground position, "over LC (Line of Control)," Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from an F-16 flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, the Officer Commanding of No 29 ‘Aggressor’ Squadron, and also the overall mission leader. Radio monitoring revealed that Abhinandan was being frantically warned by his ground control about the danger he was getting into. “Alpha One, flow cold. Nandu, if you hear me, flow cold,” is how a desperate female controller, Flt Lt Minty Agarwal, called the unresponsive pilot in high-pitched screams.[9] Fully conscious but half-deaf by then, Abhinandan soon ran into trouble, though Vyas, having heard the warning screams, was able to make good his escape.

At around 0957 hours, he was seen to be coming down by parachute near Sandar village in Bhimber District, about five km from the LOC inside Azad Kashmir. Not unexpectedly, he got an unsavoury welcome at the hands of locals who had mobbed him. Later, during his brief confinement, Abhinandan stated that while he was looking for the target on the MiG-21 radar display, his aircraft was hit, and he managed to eject just as it went out of control.[10]

It has to be noted that at no stage did Abhinandan claim shooting down an F-16, something deceitfully attributed to him after his repatriation by none other than the Indian Defence Minister, Nirmala Sitharaman. The false claim has been repeated ad nauseam by the IAF, and parroted by the Indian media in a furtive effort to redeem some respectability, after a disastrous showing by the world’s fourth largest air force. All four of the unfired missiles were recovered from the MiG-21 wreckage, and displayed to the media by the Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations, exposing Sitharaman’s brazen claim.[11]

Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.


http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2019/12/changing-dynamics-of-air-warfare-in.html

You are right bro.... in 1965 war, Warriors of Sahuda-e-bdr came to help Pakistan and Indian soldiers were telling that we see the only thunderbolt and next moment decapitation. "Insaan se toh lad sakte hai lekin faristo se kaise lade" :- The Great Zaid, After capturing Delhi, 1965

I don't surprise at all when a mullah tells this kind of stories. I wonder, even thousands of generations of a muzzi have ever told a word of truth. because Islam is designed in that way. Islam makes them believe in imaginations rather than proofs or truth. The above story is just a demonstration of that.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Guys, stop doing ad hominem attacks or we have to start to issue warnings. Stop name-calling!

 

[sayareakd]

One of the gora photographer who was on payrole of napaks had been exposed.

He said PAF has not paid any one to him since 2001.

 

[Floydian]

The Pakistani's can go to any extent in fake propaganda on the internet and unfortunately some people believe it without verifying.

Here is a "National Geographic Documentary" on Indian attack on Pakistan Abhinandan Varthaman 27 February 2020

82k views and over 1.4k likes!


Only problem is that National Geographic never made this documentary and this is a 100% Fake ! :bounce:

Let's report the video for copyright infringement (NatGeo) and other violations!

 

[Anathema]

One of the gora photographer who was on payrole of napaks had been exposed.

He said PAF has not paid any one to him since 2001.

Shat shat naman ! What a terrific piece of work.

 

[Vayuputra]

Skip to 2.50 mins, the clearest video of F-16 crash

 

[Foxbat]

Yet another video claiming capture of two pilots, I wonder how many exist! How can an ejection seat or drogue chute be confused with a pilot by so many people (including the PM of the country and DG ISPR)!

Watch between 3:20 and 3:40, a person claims he is a retired Army officer and says that 2 pilots are captured and also describes two different capture incidents.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Yet another video claiming capture of two pilots, I wonder how many exist! How can an ejection seat or drogue chute be confused with a pilot by so many people (including the PM of the country and DG ISPR)!

Watch between 3:20 and 3:40, a person claims he is a retired Army officer and says that 2 pilots are captured and also describes two different capture incidents.

Funny thing is how will they be feeling now?

Humne modi sarkar k 2 pilot pakde....

rath ki news pe..1 pilot


ch..... kat dia tumhari sarkar ne tumhara.

 

[Ultramarine]

The supposedly best air force in the world making one of its shot down pilots as the Air chief Marshal.

Pakistan: 1 India: 0

 

[Snowcat]

View attachment 45533The supposedly best air force in the world making one of its shot down pilots as the Air chief Marshal.

Pakistan: 1 India: 0

I mean, what's so bad about a pilot being shot down in war that he can't be an airchief ? Sorry, can't follow the same train of thought as you.

 

[mist_consecutive]

View attachment 45533The supposedly best air force in the world making one of its shot down pilots as the Air chief Marshal.

Pakistan: 1 India: 0

There is no shame in being shot down. He was downed at the line of duty serving his nation, similar to a soldier being KIA. No pilot is invincible and given the odds, even the best aces can find themselves in trouble against overwhelming odds.

Few people realize, but a pilot ingressing into enemy territory is similar to a soldier charging towards the enemy through no-man's land. Both of them are unsure if they will return home, or even be alive end of the day.

 

[Ultramarine]

There is no shame in being shot down. He was downed at the line of duty serving his nation, similar to a soldier being KIA. No pilot is invincible and given the odds, even the best aces can find themselves in trouble against overwhelming odds.

Few people realize, but a pilot ingressing into enemy territory is similar to a soldier charging towards the enemy through no-man's land. Both of them are unsure if they will return home, or even be alive end of the day.

There is absolutely no shame. No man is invincible. But things like this dont really work with Pakistanis who have been brought up with ridiculous claims starting with 1 pakistani soldier = 10 Indian soldiers and Pakistan won all wars against India.

When you start questioning them about their failures, they dont have an appropriate answer and reply with lies, deceits and ad hominem attacks.

Its important to shatter their morale and doesnt matter how it comes.

 

[Foxbat]

Yet another video claiming capture of two pilots, I wonder how many exist! How can an ejection seat or drogue chute be confused with a pilot by so many people (including the PM of the country and DG ISPR)!

Watch between 3:20 and 3:40, a person claims he is a retired Army officer and says that 2 pilots are captured and also describes two different capture incidents.

At 1:20 one eyewitness says one man in a parachute landed on one side of the mountain and the another guy in a parachute lands on the opposite side of the mountain. This confirms the location of the F-16 crash as per Sameer Joshi's article: https://theprint.in/defence/8-piece...abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/

According to his analysis the two pilots landed on opposite side of a hill: