IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[Hydra3]

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Howmany of our aircraft is having secured radios? I know that tejas is having & rafale too.

 

[Poseidon]

Howmany of our aircraft is having secured radios? I know that tejas is having & rafale too.

Soon all will have them courtesy Israel.

 

[Anathema]

India wants to avoid any "further escalation of the situation"

Enough said

And with that we are switching of lights of Karachi and praying to god....

 

[fire starter]

Soon all will have them courtesy Israel.

not only israel...................

 

[Hydra3]

Soon all will have them courtesy Israel.

So we are not waiting for indian product! Good decision, it should have purchased on emergency basis.

 

[Hydra3]

Is it possible to jam SDR using EW warfare? I know thar SDR can't be decoded easily.

 

[Poseidon]

Is it possible to jam SDR using EW warfare? I know thar SDR can't be decoded easily.

A google search showed this:
A reactive jamming software defined radio (SDR) apparatus can target frequency hopping SDRs

 

[Neptune]

PAF traditionally has too low sorties and flying hours of pilots to be compared with IAF in terms of crashes.

That's one of the reasons why PAF started seeing spike in crashes because now it had to increase flying hours due to recent escalations.

Even Papua new Guinea national airlines have less crashes than United or American airlines but it doesn't mean Papua new Guinea has better pilots.

You fly more, you crash more. You stay grounded, no crashes. Simple.

I wanted to expand to this and give proof of F-16 pilot flying hours and real inventory. Pakistan always had very few F-16s. Pakistan initially signed a contract for 40 F-16, it received them between 1983-1987. By 1997 8 of the F-16 were lost in crashes, accidents/shoot downs. Then in 2010 Pakistan received a batch of 18 F-16s and in 2014 they received 13 more.
For 27 years Pakistan never operated more then 40 F-16. In fact by the time the last F-16 was delivered in 1987 they had already lost 2 F-16s. (one in 1986, one in 1987).

By 2010 when ‘Piece Drive’ was signed Pakistan was down to only 31 out of 40 F-16s due to crashes. Let’s not be under any illusions, Pakistan never had even 31 operational F-16 due to maintenance. At best, on any given day Pakistan had at best perhaps 21-25 operational F-16 and if things were really bad around 15 operational F-16s. Most Americans squadrons have around 75-80% aircraft availability, some squadrons have been cut in half due to maintenance issues at spares.

As for Pakistan flying hours, we can simply look at the F-16.Net data-base and look at photos of Pakistani pilots and their insignia but let’s keep in mind Pakistan is and always was a poor country with corruption that was under US embargo for over a decade. Pakistan has a very large military as well as a large Air Force with other aircraft other then F-16s that it needs to allocate money to, so to think that Pakistani pilots were or are clocking high flight hours is a falsehood. Money doesn’t fall out of the sky and Pakistan needs a lot of it to not only maintain its large military but to keep the country running.

The majority of Pakistani F-16 pilots don’t even have 2,000 flight hours, including even Vice Marshals and Wing Commanders with probably over a decade of flying. According to F-16.Net only 13 pilots have 2,000 flight hours or more, only Aamir Masood has 3,000 hours. The data base appears incomplete though because I cannot find some Pakistani pilots including Noman Ali, or the one that died recently in a crash.

Here is a list of Pakistani pilots and their hours. Not that impressive:

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?module=pagesetter&tid=62&filter1=country:eq:195

The minimum flight hours for NATO pilots is 180 hours annually. Many NATO pilots get 240+ hours per year. Most pilots spend about 10-20+ years in service meaning by the time NATO pilots retire they have anywhere 1,800-3,600+ or 2,400-4,800+ hours depending on years of service and which country they serve. Majority of Pakistani pilots only have 1,000 hours even after they retire. It’s safe to say many of those pilots probably served at least 10 years so the the average Pakistani pilot gets at most 100 hours annually, maybe even 50 hours if they spend 20 years in service. These are abysmal numbers, and the Pakistani “low” crash rate is not that low considering they don’t fly much and have, in fact, actually crashed 20% of their original F-16 fleet by 2010.

 

[Foxbat]

I wanted to expand to this and give proof of F-16 pilot flying hours and real inventory. Pakistan always had very few F-16s. Pakistan initially signed a contract for 40 F-16, it received them between 1983-1987. By 1997 8 of the F-16 were lost in crashes, accidents/shoot downs. Then in 2010 Pakistan received a batch of 18 F-16s and in 2014 they received 13 more.
For 27 years Pakistan never operated more then 40 F-16. In fact by the time the last F-16 was delivered in 1987 they had already lost 2 F-16s. (one in 1986, one in 1987).

By 2010 when ‘Piece Drive’ was signed Pakistan was down to only 31 out of 40 F-16s due to crashes. Let’s not be under any illusions, Pakistan never had even 31 operational F-16 due to maintenance. At best, on any given day Pakistan had at best perhaps 21-25 operational F-16 and if things were really bad around 15 operational F-16s. Most Americans squadrons have around 75-80% aircraft availability, some squadrons have been cut in half due to maintenance issues at spares.

As for Pakistan flying hours, we can simply look at the F-16.Net data-base and look at photos of Pakistani pilots and their insignia but let’s keep in mind Pakistan is and always was a poor country with corruption that was under US embargo for over a decade. Pakistan has a very large military as well as a large Air Force with other aircraft other then F-16s that it needs to allocate money to, so to think that Pakistani pilots were or are clocking high flight hours is a falsehood. Money doesn’t fall out of the sky and Pakistan needs a lot of it to not only maintain its large military but to keep the country running.

The majority of Pakistani F-16 pilots don’t even have 2,000 flight hours, including even Vice Marshals and Wing Commanders with probably over a decade of flying. According to F-16.Net only 13 pilots have 2,000 flight hours or more, only Aamir Masood has 3,000 hours. The data base appears incomplete though because I cannot find some Pakistani pilots including Noman Ali, or the one that died recently in a crash.

Here is a list of Pakistani pilots and their hours. Not that impressive:

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?module=pagesetter&tid=62&filter1=country:eq:195

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The minimum flight hours for NATO pilots is 180 hours annually. Many NATO pilots get 240+ hours per year. Most pilots spend about 10-20+ years in service meaning by the time NATO pilots retire they have anywhere 1,800-3,600+ or 2,400-4,800+ hours depending on years of service and which country they serve. Majority of Pakistani pilots only have 1,000 hours even after they retire. It’s safe to say many of those pilots probably served at least 10 years so the the average Pakistani pilot gets at most 100 hours annually, maybe even 50 hours if they spend 20 years in service. These are abysmal numbers, and the Pakistani “low” crash rate is not that low considering they don’t fly much and have, in fact, actually crashed 20% of their original F-16 fleet by 2010.

Also the data on F-16.net is not all correct, its run by a private body of enthusiasts based on what public data is available.

We strive to keep our database up-to-date and complete, nevertheless for some countries data is hard to verify (e.g. accuracy for the Middle East is only 90%).
Source: http://www.f-16.net/fleet-reports_article6.html

Israel does not reveal all losses and that is publicly known, PAF does not either but pretends to !

Although we strive to make this graph as accurate as possible, we are aware that our attrition data is incomplete; in particular, we lack data on some early crashes, and on Israeli, Egyptian and Turkish air force attrition.
Source: http://www.f-16.net/fleet-reports_article3.html

 

[scatterStorm]

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Probably this hampered our mission over Balakot

 

[Foxbat]

The Pakistani's can go to any extent in fake propaganda on the internet and unfortunately some people believe it without verifying.

Here is a "National Geographic Documentary" on Indian attack on Pakistan Abhinandan Varthaman 27 February 2020

82k views and over 1.4k likes!


Only problem is that National Geographic never made this documentary and this is a 100% Fake ! :bounce:

 

[Illusive]

The Pakistani's can go to any extent in fake propaganda on the internet and unfortunately some people believe it without verifying.

Here is a "National Geographic Documentary" on Indian attack on Pakistan Abhinandan Varthaman 27 February 2020

82k views and over 1.4k likes!


Only problem is that National Geographic never made this documentary and this is a 100% Fake ! :bounce:

Man.....Even youtubers make better quality videos than this

 

[rone]

I think I finaly cracked the paf f16 BVR doctrine used on Feb 27 2019

So let's start the paf f16 in adf role carried 4 aim120c5 ( charli) which have effective 94% + kill probability in 31,000 feet with host aircraft having speed above 1.3 m, in a text book method the adf escorts climb high altitude to maximize their launch range while they put their radar on SAM mod (situational awareness mode) or TWS mod ( track while scan ) thus it will help them to keep a lock on tango with out triggering RWR, once they reach 60 or 55 mile they launch fox 3( aim120c) which will follow loft fly path to target, after launch missile will climb higher alitude than the f16 max altitude where air is thinner and have very less friction which will again increase the effective range, mean while it's is important to keep the lock on rango becoz break of lock will force the missile to go pitbul early and trigger rwr of tango which will give enough time to evade the missile, so instead of u forcing missile to go pitbul the missile go pitbul terminal phase which is between 4 to 3 miles range with speed in range of mac2.5 to 3, due to this the tango have less than 5 sec of response time which is not enough to make any evasive action,

So now put this theory in to practical so saab AWAC provided the air space picture which shows only 2mki on cap f16 on escort climbed to 31,000 ft, roughly close to 55 miles they fired 2 aim120c in salvos, due to some unknown reasons the f16 looses its lock triggering su30mki rwr, thus su30 altered and take evasive action to ensure kill reaming f16 break the ROE ( which the taics I explained above) and fire multiple aim120c the IAF integrated air defence detected multiple launch's and alerted the mkis in succession mkis enabled their self protection jammers, which defeated remaining aim120c while this happing air controller re-routes mig29 and m2k area of action mig21 from Srinagar airbase also scrambled while m2k in close proximity have radar indication of strike package all packages where other side of POK thus firing solution denied, dude to incremental in IAF air asset's response Saab AWAC alerts the strike package and escort's, as a back plan paf employed da20 ew bird to jam the communication links but all other aircrafts rather than mig21 have updated avionics which nullifies the da20 ew effort's, but unfortunately one mig21 pursuit of f16 which in strike role flying in low altitude lost it situational awareness and crossed LOC, while mig21 and f16 was in WVR zone mig21 got solution for r73 and fired it, while escorting f16 adf witnessing this situation dive to divert the attack and got a solution on mig21 and fired aim120 in medium range( 20 miles) due to lower altitude than adf f16 mig 21 try to turn around and make a evasive dash but failed , the r73 fired from shoot down mig21 independent on gudince engaged f16 and rest is history for world and mystery for PAF fan boys

 

[Sayaaf]

Kaisar Tufail Updated the Abhinondone Wingman in his article

At 0930 hours, two pairs of MiG-21 Bisons of No 51 Squadron were scrambled successively from Srinagar and nearby Awantipur, to boost up IAF’s diminishing presence in the air. A senior pilot, Wg Cdr Abhinandan ‘Nandu’ Varthaman (callsign ‘Alpha One’), along with his wingman, Sqn Ldr Anubhav Vyas, was directed by the ground radar to “turn 160 (degrees),” towards a patrolling pair of PAF fighters.Flying low and masked by the Parmandal Range, Abhinandan had tried to pull a surprise by abruptly popping up from behind the hills. Apprehending PAF's snooping capabilities, he had even switched off his Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) transponder. He also kept his radar controller posted about his ground position by reporting it in pre-arranged codes.

However, Abhinandan remained oblivious of the fact that unlike ground based radars, PAF's AEWCs and high flying fighters had no line of sight issues, and could clearly see him on their radars. Moments after he called out his ground position, "over LC (Line of Control)," Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from an F-16 flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, the Officer Commanding of No 29 ‘Aggressor’ Squadron, and also the overall mission leader. Radio monitoring revealed that Abhinandan was being frantically warned by his ground control about the danger he was getting into. “Alpha One, flow cold. Nandu, if you hear me, flow cold,” is how a desperate female controller, Flt Lt Minty Agarwal, called the unresponsive pilot in high-pitched screams.[9] Fully conscious but half-deaf by then, Abhinandan soon ran into trouble, though Vyas, having heard the warning screams, was able to make good his escape.

At around 0957 hours, he was seen to be coming down by parachute near Sandar village in Bhimber District, about five km from the LOC inside Azad Kashmir. Not unexpectedly, he got an unsavoury welcome at the hands of locals who had mobbed him. Later, during his brief confinement, Abhinandan stated that while he was looking for the target on the MiG-21 radar display, his aircraft was hit, and he managed to eject just as it went out of control.[10]

It has to be noted that at no stage did Abhinandan claim shooting down an F-16, something deceitfully attributed to him after his repatriation by none other than the Indian Defence Minister, Nirmala Sitharaman. The false claim has been repeated ad nauseam by the IAF, and parroted by the Indian media in a furtive effort to redeem some respectability, after a disastrous showing by the world’s fourth largest air force. All four of the unfired missiles were recovered from the MiG-21 wreckage, and displayed to the media by the Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations, exposing Sitharaman’s brazen claim.[11]

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/

 

[Assassin 2.0]

AMRAAM Kill-Map in Syria shows how PAF F-16s missed Su-30MKI


by miles Published April 9, 2020 | By admin SOURCE: MAHESHA M / FOR MY TAKE / IDRW.ORG 40 Years old fighter bomber Su-22 was recently in news over Syria after Turkish F-16 fired AIM-120-C5 Beyond visual range missile was successfully dodged by the aircraft over long-range. The incident occurred on March 3rd before that Turkish F-16 was shooting down jets over Syria with AIM-120-C5 BVR AAMs with ease and already had 4 Kills in recent times as seen below graphics. Before the March 3rd incident, Turkish Armed Forces managed to shoot down three Syrian Air Force jets over the skies of rural Idlib, this prompted the Russian military to get involved to limit the SyAAF’s losses. AMRAAM Kills in Syria 2012 onwards shows a particular situation where AMRAAMs were effective only when fired up within 30-40km range and not at DMAX range of over 100km as Pakistani air force wants to show to its people. Back to the Su-22 incident in Syria. Presence of Russian military aircraft particularly when Russian ISR (Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance) aircraft like Tu-214R was monitoring airspace and Su-30SM were kept on high alert for intercepts, meant that Turkish F-16 were pushed back and were not able to intrude Syrian air space at free will anymore but on March 3rd a Syrian Su-22 on a bombing mission over are where Turkish backed terror outfits were present prompted Turkish F-16s to come near the border and fire a long-range AIM-120-C5 BVR AAM at a juicy target Su-22 which was over 50km away from the launch F-16 aircraft. According to media reports, Russian Tu-214R monitored AIM-120-C5 BVR AAM launch from the border by the Turkish F-16 and informed the Syrian pilot who was flying Su-22 which allowed him to push his thrust throttle and make a run for back to his airbase. AMRAAM launched over 50km should have had very high pK (probability of kill) against a jet which is 40 years old and lacks modern EW systems to escape, especially for a missile system which claims a range over 100km against fighter jet sized targets but it was not to be, not only 40 old fighter bomber was warned about missile launch direction and was already running back at supersonic speed towards his airbase and successfully managed to dodge the missile. Su-22 is not equipped with advance EL/L-8222 Airborne Self Protection Jammer (ASPJ) pods like Su-30MKI which was armed that day when PAF F-16B piloted by Squadron Leader Hassan Siddiqui fired a volley of AIM-120-C5 BVR AAMs at Su-30MKI ” Avenger-1″ at DMAX. According to Sameer Joshi, ex-Indian Air Force fighter pilot, Siddiqui fired AMRAAMs when Su-30MKI was over 60km away from this aircraft. Su-30MKI ” Avenger-1″ effective deployed chaff and flares along with its EL/L-8222 Airborne Self Protection Jammer (ASPJ) to dodge a volley of AMRAAMs and after making aggressive defense maneuvers. According to PAF, Siddiqui was awarded Su-30MKI kill based on the thermal target being take down by an AMRAAM fired by him which was recorded by the PAF’s SAAB 340 AEW&C. IAF’s Squadron Leader Minty Agarwal who was the Fighter Controller that day said that Su-30 not only survived AMRAAMs even made a run towards PAF F-16s which were already running back after an aggressive push by Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman with his Mig-21Bis. IAF Chief also confirmed that AMRAAMs were fired at DMAX and fake Su-30kill was made only to divert counterclaim made by IAF of PAF F-16 being shot down. Squadron Leader Minty Agarwal and Sameer Joshi have confirmed one thing is that deployment of chaff and flares and the use of Israeli EW pod by the Su-30MKI was one of the major reasons why the aircraft was able to dodge the AMRAAMS. Lack of any evidence presented by the PAF also confirms that what Siddiqui took down was chaff and flares deployed by the Su-30MKI and later missile also being jammed by the EL/L-8222 successfully. Look at AMRAAM Kill-Map in Syria since 2012 shows that AIM-120-C5 BVR AAMs have no recorded claims of shotting down any combat jets or even 50km let alone 60km which Siddiqui has claimed. In fact, since the induction of AMRAAMs in the 1990s, there is no recorded kill over the 60-80km range even when AMRAAMS like C5 version have a range over 100km and most of the recorded kills have been around 20-30km range and over 40km against only against light trainer jet which was not equipped with any internal EW or RWR or even MAW

 

[Sayaaf]

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/

Immediately after the failed Indian strike, Pakistanis clamoured for revenge as expected, and Prime Minister Imran Khan duly promised it. The dilemma of escalation weighed heavily on the political and military leadership, and there was consensus that the response had to be as measured and controlled as was possible. Even the number of bombs planned for delivery were to be in equal measure

. The PAF was well-prepared for a whole range of targeting options, and it settled for a stand-off attack similar to the IAF’s, with the important difference that it would be against military targets in the Poonch-Rajauri-Naushera Sector in Indian Held Kashmir (IHK).

The IAF stood guard on the night of 26 February when the PAF’s riposte was expected. Extensive Combat Air Patrols (CAP) were flown by the IAF, with surveillance support from ground radars, as well as an AEWCS aircraft anchored over Adampur. When the PAF did not show up till sunrise of 27 February, the IAF eased off from its highest alert state, and waited for the following night

. A pair of Su-30MKI was patrolling near Srinagar, while a pair of Mirage 2000I was patrolling east of Udhampur. PAF’s deception worked splendidly when its strike package of four Mirage 5PA/IIIDA of No 15 Squadron and two JF-17 of No 16 Squadron, duly supported by a big swarm of escorts and patrolling fighters (a mix of F-16A/B and JF-17), cluttered the scopes of IAF’s ground radars at 0920 hours.[3] Working at the rear of the fighter package were PAF’s SAAB Erieye AEWCS aircraft, and the DA-20 Falcon in which electronic warfare wizards sat ready with their arcane tricks.





Two vintage – but still quite capable – Mirage 5PA, each armed with one H-4 stand-off bomb[4], along with two JF-17, each armed with two Mk-83 Range Extension Kit (REK) bombs[5], headed towards their respective targets in southern-western IHK. It was a bright and clear morning, with excellent visibility after the previous night’s rain. Each Mirage 5PA was followed by its communication control aircraft, a dual-seat Mirage IIIDA, which was to steer the H-4 after launch through data link, while the JF-17s’ Mk-83 REK were to be launched in the autonomous ‘fire and forget’ mode. With the H-4 having a range of over 120 km, and the Mk-83 REK having at least half of that, the bombs offered safety to the launch aircraft as these could be delivered from well inside own territory, and the aircraft could then break off. The Mirage IIIDA control aircraft, however, had to continue flying towards the target, refining the H-4 bomb’s flight path till impact.

The bomb can be steered with great accuracy, as the high resolution image of the target seen by the bomb’s seeker head is constantly relayed to the control aircraft. Since the purpose of the mission was essentially to demonstrate that Pakistan had the resolve, as well as the capability of responding in kind, it was decided that there was no compelling need to pick the front door of a brigade commander’s office, or the air shafts of soldiers’ bunkers. General area bombing of open spaces in military garrisons near the Line of Control (LOC) in IHK was, therefore, agreed upon.[6] It was expected that this ‘abundance of restraint’ would prevent mass carnage in the Indian military garrisons, which could otherwise lead to a chain of escalatory actions, and spiral into a very dangerous all-out war under a nuclear overhang.


When the PAF struck the garrisons within 32 hours of IAF’s abortive air strike at Balakot, it came like a ‘shot across the bow’ and had the desired sobering effect on the Indian military commanders.[7] General Bipin Rawat, the Indian Chief of Army Staff, was forced to take a pause from his regular harangue about sorting out Pakistan. Unsurprisingly, he has not uttered any more threats to Pakistan, ever since.

Sqn Ldr Hasan Siddiqui

PAF’s approaching strike force had, meanwhile, rung frantic alarms on the Indian air defence radars, and patrolling fighters were directed to intercept them. Struggling to sift through the degraded communications environment, IAF fighters were unable to understand the instructions of their air defence controllers. An F-16 pair led by Sqn Ldr Hasan Siddiqui of the elite Combat Commanders’ School, was vectored towards two approaching IAF fighters flying in an extended trail formation. The very long range at which the adversary aircraft appeared on the F-16 radar scopes suggested that these were big targets, most likely Su-30MKI. After sampling the target data and confirming valid firing parameters, Hasan let go an AIM-120C (AMRAAM)[8] at 0936 hours, and promptly announced ‘Fox Three,’ the brevity code for an active radar-guided missile launch.

Missile flight data fed back to the F-16 fire control computer in real-time, seemed to indicate that the missile had made its mark. Whether the Su-30 had met a violent end, or was damaged and landed back, or the aircrew had been able to kinetically defeat the missile altogether, remains moot. Hard evidence by way of aircraft wreckage or details of aircrew casualties has not been available so far. Debris of the AIM-120C missile was, however, picked up and displayed on Indian television in a ludicrous tri-services press conference, as the IAF brass unsportingly complained about PAF using F-16s in what was actually a telling response to its own aggression.

Soon after the shoot-out, all hell broke loose in the Indian camp, as revealed by radar and VHF radio monitoring. In the ensuing confusion, the Terminal Air Defence Unit at Srinagar Air Force Station reported a slow speed radar contact heading towards it. As leaked reports suggest, the contact was taken for a hostile Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, and the Chief Operations Officer ordered it to be shot down. At 0940 hours, an Israeli-origin Spyder surface-to-air missile was launched, but its target turned out to be an IAF Mi-17 V-5 helicopter belonging to the Srinagar-based No 154 Helicopter Unit. The helicopter crashed near Budgam, and six aircrew, along with a civilian on the ground, lost their lives in a case of morale-shattering fratricide.

Meanwhile, higher in the skies, the sole Su-30 remaining in the area flew helter-skelter, something quite baffling, considering that these are multi-crew fighters endowed with very powerful radars, and were armed to the teeth with an array of four R-77 active radar-guided BVR missiles, and four R-73 infra-red seeking dogfight missiles each. The Su-30 abruptly called ‘Bingo’ (low on fuel) and exited the area at high speed after only 25 minutes of flight, despite having an endurance of at least two hours while on routine air patrols. As per radio monitoring, it transpired that the two Su-30s had earlier failed to synchronize their data links and had been unable to provide any mutual support by way of radar data sharing.

In the on-going fracas, the Mirage 2000 formation on patrol was pulled back. In all probability, this was done to prevent these high value aircraft from being targeted by more BVR shots; however, one is also inclined to believe that the panic-striken pilots may have opportunely declared some kind of weapon system failures. Whatever the reason, these state-of-the-art Mirages were of no help in warding off the PAF fighters, despite being equipped with MICA missiles that were comparable in performance to the F-16s’ AMRAAMs. As for operational commanders on the ground, it needs no guessing that they had gone into a paralytic freeze, and needed time to gather their wits. When the decision for action finally came, it was a pathetic one: to use the MiG-21 Bisons – virtually as cannon fodder, it may be added.

Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan

At 0930 hours, two pairs of MiG-21 Bisons of No 51 Squadron were scrambled successively from Srinagar and nearby Awantipur, to boost up IAF’s diminishing presence in the air. A senior pilot, Wg Cdr Abhinandan ‘Nandu’ Varthaman (callsign ‘Alpha One’), along with his wingman, Sqn Ldr Anubhav Vyas, was directed by the ground radar to “turn 160 (degrees),” towards a patrolling pair of PAF fighters.Flying low and masked by the Parmandal Range, Abhinandan had tried to pull a surprise by abruptly popping up from behind the hills. Apprehending PAF's snooping capabilities, he had even switched off his Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) transponder. He also kept his radar controller posted about his ground position by reporting it in pre-arranged codes.

However, Abhinandan remained oblivious of the fact that unlike ground based radars, PAF's AEWCs and high flying fighters had no line of sight issues, and could clearly see him on their radars. Moments after he called out his ground position, "over LC (Line of Control)," Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from an F-16 flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, the Officer Commanding of No 29 ‘Aggressor’ Squadron, and also the overall mission leader. Radio monitoring revealed that Abhinandan was being frantically warned by his ground control about the danger he was getting into. “Alpha One, flow cold. Nandu, if you hear me, flow cold,” is how a desperate female controller, Flt Lt Minty Agarwal, called the unresponsive pilot in high-pitched screams.[9] Fully conscious but half-deaf by then, Abhinandan soon ran into trouble, though Vyas, having heard the warning screams, was able to make good his escape.

At around 0957 hours, he was seen to be coming down by parachute near Sandar village in Bhimber District, about five km from the LOC inside Azad Kashmir. Not unexpectedly, he got an unsavoury welcome at the hands of locals who had mobbed him. Later, during his brief confinement, Abhinandan stated that while he was looking for the target on the MiG-21 radar display, his aircraft was hit, and he managed to eject just as it went out of control.[10]

It has to be noted that at no stage did Abhinandan claim shooting down an F-16, something deceitfully attributed to him after his repatriation by none other than the Indian Defence Minister, Nirmala Sitharaman. The false claim has been repeated ad nauseam by the IAF, and parroted by the Indian media in a furtive effort to redeem some respectability, after a disastrous showing by the world’s fourth largest air force. All four of the unfired missiles were recovered from the MiG-21 wreckage, and displayed to the media by the Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations, exposing Sitharaman’s brazen claim.[11]

 

[Sayaaf]

Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.


http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2019/12/changing-dynamics-of-air-warfare-in.html

 

[Defcon 1]

Changing Dynamics of Air Warfare in South Asia

It is to be noted that after a disastrous showing by IAF on the 26th and 27th February, the Indian government unwisely decided to even the score by deploying – conceivably, for employing – Surface-to-Surface Missiles (SSMs) against targets in Pakistan. Apparently, this measure was aimed at preventing further fighter losses at the hands of the PAF that was perceived by the IAF as being technically superior. Exercise of the rash and senseless decision to deploy SSMs could well have been misconstrued by Pakistan, and a catastrophic exchange could have followed between nuclear-armed neighbours. The Government of Pakistan, as well as its armed forces, should treat it as a textbook lesson in regional conflict escalation dynamics, and must remain cognisant of such developments in any future conflict.


http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2019/12/changing-dynamics-of-air-warfare-in.html

If IAF's showing was so bad, then where is Muhammad Yusuf Azhar, the guy who was running the Balakot terrorist camp? Why hasn't been pakistan able to produce him in public?

 

[Ajax01]

Stop engaging this guy. Now he is giving blogs of some other ex pilot retard who somehow got to hear the Mig21 Comms lol. Besides is their a thread for Pak War Lies or shall we make one?

 

[Holy Triad]

Abhinondone Wingman

He is still Better than a dead non-ejaculated PAF banda.

For the sake of moving the argument forward,lets say he didn't kill the f16 bird,you ppl vehemently denied on the basis of "lack" of evidence


Then same logic can be applied it to your claims on su30mki "kill" and IA hq destroyed by paf bums.

I don't understand why you people so adamant on these matters
Shit happens,you move on,whether you succeed or not.

Your obsession with being "superior" to india is literally destroying your country inside out.

See how your military establishments looting yo country,

PAF converts land for ‘national security’ into housing scheme in Lahore

An audit report on the aviation division has revealed that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) converted the land acquired for “national security” into a housing scheme, causing a loss of Rs1.92 billion to the national exchequer.

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1461122

Do you see such allegations from our military on daily basis?

That's why we don't believe in your military claims in general.

Even in this case,it happened more than a year ago,but you people still obsessed with that day.

It doesn't matter which narrative you choose to believe,because that's a minor event compared with the grander scheme of things.

I used to be angry with your behavior in this forum,but after seeing you droning the same argument again and again for over an year or so,
It's pathetic and sad,

Does it make you or your country any better by parroting the same old arguments.

Being a troll is nothing to be proud of...