HAL Prachand - Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)

p2prada

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66 is just a token number like 124 order for arjun mbt.the iaf must order at least
150 lch and the army should order around 500.also the hal should come-up with a marine version for navy and coast guard.the paramilitary forces can also be equiped with the same.
We are yet to validate gunships in battle or exercises in large numbers. Only the US and Russia have large amounts of gunships in their arsenal. Once successful, we could see future increase in numbers as well as variants.

We are yet to develop a medium helicopter. So once we have that we can go for a medium weight gunship like Mi-24 or AH-64 with heavy armour in the next 10 years. The current numbers for LCH are fine. It's when orders start dropping in number that you have to become wary of the LCH.

The LCH can be compared to the AH-1 Super Cobra, twin engine variant, rather than AH-64 or Mi-24. 160+ is in use by the USMC.
 

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Extremely good news.

Now, just like HAL ALH, I would like to see HAL LCH bagging international orders.

Thanks for the nice photos AA.
 

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I have seen ALH Dhruv around 50 time or so Mark my word friends it is a great chopper and the LCH will be surely better.
 

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this is good number to start with, since it is flying tank, IA should order it in good numbers.
The flying tank tag fits only to the Mi-24 no other attack helicopters comes close to its armor..:hail:
 

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The flying tank tag fits only to the Mi-24 no other attack helicopters comes close to its armor..:hail:
Very well said. HAL LCH, indeed a great machine, is more of a flying Vodnik.

If I may add:

In NATO circles the export versions, Mi-25 and Mi-35, are simply denoted with a letter suffix as "Hind D" and "Hind E" respectively. Soviet pilots called the aircraft летающий танк (letayushchiy tank, "flying tank"). More common unofficial nicknames were Крокодил (Krokodil, "Crocodile"), due to the helicopter's new camouflage scheme and Стакан (Stakan, "Glass"), because of the flat glass plates which surround the three place cockpit of the Mi-24A.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24
 

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Like is said these whirlybirds are gonna form the backbone of CAS for our IBG's in a cold start scenario.flying ahead of the tanks but behind UAV's they will take out potential armored targets while feeding data to the Smerch and pinaka batteries about which area to pound.
 

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HAL to flaunt more LCH prototypes


HAL to flaunt more LCH prototypes - www.daily.bhaskar.com

Bangalore: Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is building more prototypes of the Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) to speed up the flight evaluation process of the country's first indigenously developed chopper. These prototypes are in addition to the Technology Demonstrator (TD-1) which is currently being flight-tested in Bangalore.

P Soundara Rajan, director (Corporate Planning and Management), HAL, said, "Two more prototypes are being built to speed up the process of flight evaluation and TD-2 is also expected to enter flight phase in May." The TD-2 tinted with digital camouflage paint is a weaponised version of the chopper LCH. It will be fitted with a 20mm Turret gun and can carry rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles on the weapon stations.

It would also have day-and- night targeting systems for the crew, including the helmet-pointed sight and electro-optical pod consisting of CCD camera, FLIR, laser range finder and laser designator.

These capabilities are expected to have a major impact on air defence against slow moving aerial targets, destruction of enemy air defence operations, escort to special heli-borne operations, and support of combat search and rescue operations. Rajan added that while the chopper would enter flight test phase this month, the weapon trials are planned in 2012.

HAL says that the performance features of the LCH are on a par, if not better than other helicopter in its class like A129/Tiger and with bigger dedicated combat helicopters like Apache, Kamov 30 or Mi-35.
 

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Hindustan Aeronautics Light Combat Helicopter to come out with its third prototype

Hindustan Aeronautics Light Combat Helicopter to come out with its third prototype - The Economic Times

BANGALORE: Hindustan Aeronautics' Light Combat Helicopter programme will soon come out with its third prototype after incorporating a host of design and production improvements. This is less than a year after the much-anticipated chopper had to abort its flying display at the country's premier air show, Aero India 2011.

The first two prototypes of the helicopter gunship , which has been designed, developed and manufactured by state-owned defence undertaking Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd , will be undergoing their sea-level trials by the end of the year, and an improved version is expected to take to the skies early next year.

"The third prototype will be made after some more flying of the first two, which are currently undergoing improvements and are expected to fly shortly. The prototype we flew during Aero India did show some deviation from the intended parameters, so that is why we had to take it out and do a re-study " P. Soundara Rajan, managing director of HAL's Helicopter Complex said.

The latest prototype will be lighter, have higher load limits and better camouflage. The Bangalore-based aeronautics company is currently working on the breakaway fuselage of the chopper, and expects to conduct the ground test for the same soon.

"The entire load spectrum is simulated on the ground, and the aircraft is then taken apart to see whether the intended design parameters are behaving exactly the way they should. We have completed the manufacturing of the breakaway fuselage, and it is getting instrumented now," Soundara Rajan said.

The 5.5-tonne LCH is expected to be the answer to the country's armed forces' desperate need for attack choppers , even as the government phases out its largely-obsolete helicopter fleets that have been acquired almost forty years back, and are now operationally unfit, especially in high-altitude battlefields.

The urgent need for modern-day rotor-wing gunships, which could be operated at high altitudes, was first felt during the Kargil conflict of 1999-00, which was fought in the Himalayan region, the world's highest mountain range.

HAL, the country's largest aeronautics company, has hit the ground running with the LCH, and expects to produce more than 100 of the choppers by 2015.
 

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Hindustan Aeronautics sees spike in light combat helicopter orders

Hindustan Aeronautics sees spike in light combat helicopter orders - The Economic Times


BANGALORE: Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) expects the order book for its light combat helicopter (LCH) to swell to about 250, even as the country's armed forces look to desperately add teeth to its largely-obsolete attack chopper fleet.

"We are looking at around at an order book of 200 to 250 helicopters overall for the LCH, including orders from the Army and the Air Force ," said P Soundara Rajan, managing director of HAL's Helicopter complex.

Already being compared to China's under-wraps Z-10 gunship, the 5.5-tonne LCH will have the Shakti engine, co-developed with French engine-maker Turbomeca, and will be equipped with guns, rockets and missiles for anti-tank and counter-insurgency attacks. It is expected to enter service by 2015-16.

HAL already has a firm order for 180 of these helicopter gunships from both the Indian Army and the Air Force. Currently, the army does not operate any attack helicopters in its aviation wing and depend on the IAF for operational use. "We are in talks with the Army and expect some movement," Soundara Rajan said.

The armed forces' desperate need for the gunships, especially those that could be operated at high altitudes, was keenly felt during the Kargil conflict, which was fought in the Himalayan region, regarded as the most hostile battle environment in the world.

At present, the army has two squadrons of Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopters and Mi-17 medium-lift choppers of the IAF for testing its transformational concepts. Soundara Rajan also confirmed that the Bangalore-based defence undertaking had already incorporated a number of design improvements on the two current LCH prototypes, including work on the breakaway fuselage, and expected to conduct the sea-level trials on the same by the end of the current year.

"Two prototypes are currently undergoing improvements and will fly shortly. We also have to do what we call the breakaway fuselage. The third prototype will be made after some more flying of the first two. We expect to hold the sea-level trials for the first two prototypes probably towards the end of this year," Soundara Rajan said.

According to him, the entire load spectrum is simulated on the ground. The aircraft is then taken apart to see whether the intended design parameters are behaving exactly the way they should.

"The manufacturing of the breakaway fuselage is complete, and it is getting instrumented now. After that, it will go for its ground test." The managing director expects the LCH programme, along with the Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopter and the Light Utility Helicopter, to help the company turn a globally recognised defence player.

"I see LCH taking over for about two to three years. Afterwards, it will be LUH will dominate. There is a lot at stake, and these are programmes that will be crucial for the company over the next 30 to 35 years. HAL will also ramp up its Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopter production capabilities as it gears up to meet the urgent needs of the military, which already has an outstanding order of 159 Dhruvs and 76 armed versions of the Dhruv - Dhruv Weapons Systems Integration .
 

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India short-lists PARS 3 LR guided missile - UPI.com

India short-lists PARS 3 LR guided missile

SCHROBENHAUSEN, Germany, June 27 (UPI) -- MBDA Deutchland's PARS 3 LR guided missile system has been short-listed for the Indian Army helicopter future air-to-ground requirement, the company said.

MBDA said it has delivered proposals for its PARS 3 LR multi-target, long range weapon system for India's HAL's Advanced Light Helicopter and for two attack helicopters, the KAMOV KA-52 and the MIL MI-28.

As part of its export campaign for India, three PARS 3 LR firings were carried out from a German Tiger helicopter at the Vidsel test range in Sweden in April 2011. All three missiles were equipped with live warheads and all three struck their intended targets at the optimal hit points.

Two firings were carried out within one minute of each other, the first against a static target at a range of 7,000 yards and the second against a moving target at a range of 700 yards, MBDA said.

The third firing was carried out with the helicopter in fast forward flight against a static target at a range of 7,000 yards.

"I am delighted that the Indian Army has short-listed PARS 3 LR for its procurement project," Werner Kaltenegger, managing director of MBDA Deutschland said. "This represents a further confirmation of the close partnership MBDA has developed with India over the years.

The successful industrial trials confirm the high level of reliability of the PARS 3 LR guided missile system. "We are proud to offer the Indian Army such a powerful fire-and-forget system that can deploy precision attacks against a wide range of targets," Kaltenegger said.

Read more: India short-lists PARS 3 LR guided missile - UPI.com
 

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It would make no sense to buy the PARS since good missiles like Hellfires are available at better rates, furthermore if the AH-64 wins the deal we'll be acquiring Hellfires anyways, why operate two types of anti tank missiles, makes better sense to just order the Hellfire if indeed its needed till Helina arrives. Actually we dont even need to order extra Hellfires, the AH-64 packages includes some 1000+ Hellfires, some of them can be integrated on the LCH if the AH-64 wins. Price of PARS is ridiculous, Germans ordered 680 missiles for 380 million euros in 2006, makes absolutly no sense to order it.
 
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i think pars are for weaponised verson of lah which i hape are start to get inducted in IA , IAF around next year.
 

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Stop gap measure, I guess we cannot use lahat coz of the ban on IMI..
lahat is made by IAI not IMI.
and you already have it but i never heard about a helicopter version only tank gun lunched version .
only spike helicopter version made by Rafael is used in idf .
 
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paras 3 is world class helicopter born super sonic anti tank weapon
the only issue is price the missile is astonishingly expensive
 

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