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SH was seen as slow moving and less agile than legacy F18.
The agility and climb rate will be big issues in the Swiss contest, because there's a lot of montains, and few time to react.
But you're right, logistically speaking SH is the natural choice after F18. Cheaper? marginally. Specially if disponibility is in the balance.
The choice will be between SH and Rafale I think. EF is out since 2011, F35 is useless in the Swiss context. Not to speak of the agility, climb rate and speed limitations of F35. A communication node (F35) is of no interest in such a country.
Except for the common set of weapons they use and as @Immanuel rightly said that there is already a great relationship and logistics network for decades with Boeing and political backing by US but nothing else is common even though the actual commonality rating is under 30% as we know SH is entirely new plane based on f18, everything other thing would've to be worked ground up.cheaper or not but the last known deal for SH was 1.5 b$ for 28 aircrafts for Kuwait.according to the last leaked swiss evaluation report Rafale won the top spot yet they went with the Gripen 3.2 b$ deal which was later cancelled which it lost by 51% in referendum, Boeing didn't even bid in this tender with there SH blk2.Note: I don't want to sound biased or have anything against Gripen.its an exceptional plane, Gripen E/F more so.SH is good plane too but it was built ground up with keeping Navy in mind unlike Rafale which has different versions for airforce & Navy even though the difference may be minute.numerous times Rafale performed best in tenders but was never selected except in the case of india.politics play's very big part,these tenders are influenced by big companies & countries of these manufacturers, it's never fair and square.
 

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Except for the common set of weapons they use and as @Immanuel rightly said that there is already a great relationship and logistics network for decades with Boeing and political backing by US but nothing else is common even though the actual commonality rating is under 30% as we know SH is entirely new plane based on f18, everything other thing would've to be worked ground up.cheaper or not but the last known deal for SH was 1.5 b$ for 28 aircrafts for Kuwait.according to the last leaked swiss evaluation report Rafale won the top spot yet they went with the Gripen 3.2 b$ deal which was later cancelled which it lost by 51% in referendum, Boeing didn't even bid in this tender with there SH blk2.Note: I don't want to sound biased or have anything against Gripen.its an exceptional plane, Gripen E/F more so.SH is good plane too but it was built ground up with keeping Navy in mind unlike Rafale which has different versions for airforce & Navy even though the difference may be minute.numerous times Rafale performed best in tenders but was never selected except in the case of india.politics play's very big part,these tenders are influenced by big companies & countries of these manufacturers, it's never fair and square.
SH Block-3 chances for Swiss went up with the German AF now on the verge of ordering 45 brand new block-3s. Swiss pilots were happy with their F-18s, so it's a natural progression going for the F-18 Block-3 for them since it can already deploy all weapons in their arsenal, comes with updated cockpits, datalinks, processors, 9000 hr airframe. SH is proven reliable workhorse, should be a easy choice for them.
 

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SH Block-3 chances for Swiss went up with the German AF now on the verge of ordering 45 brand new block-3s. Swiss pilots were happy with their F-18s, so it's a natural progression going for the F-18 Block-3 for them since it can already deploy all weapons in their arsenal, comes with updated cockpits, datalinks, processors, 9000 hr airframe. SH is proven reliable workhorse, should be a easy choice for them.
as you rightly said,there is no doubt that Swiss were extremely happy with their F-18s infact Swiss officials were extremely upset when Boeing opted not to participate in tender.The Swiss Department of Defence (DDPS) regretted the decision of Boeing,since the 33 F/A-18 C/D of the same manufacture have proven to be excellent value in Switzerland were the exact words from the Armasuisse release back in 2008.I've already pointed out the use of existing weapons in previous post.whether it's a easy choice for them is little doubtful because most of the countries who operate older F-18 H have bought it directly through FMS route without any tender or bidding except in couple of cases where Boeing F-18 H participated and won it.many a times Boeing with it's F-18SH has simply refused to participate in tenders citing disparity between the requirements or lack of level playing field.just like other US weapon manufacturers it also tries to influence the tender and sway the decision in it's favor through US Government.it happened with India also but it didn't succumb. if it was so easy,all the other countries who operate older F-18H would have directly upgraded to F-18 SH just like Australia and Kuwait instead of issuing tenders.regarding Germany ordering SH it's all political and technical.it possess B 61 nuclear bombs and Tornado is the only non US aircraft which is integrated to carry it,with it's replacement near,F-18SH was logical choice specially at the time when US with all gun blazing,is having trade wars with each and every other country and with this pandemic happening it will get much worse due to economic recession,so US would happily integrate B 61 bombs on SH rather than non US platforms.it's not impossible but would be hard for Germany to persuade US to integrate on other platforms.Germany which manufactures Typhoon ordering SH Blk-3 itself cast doubts on the performance and claimed multirole capability of Typhoon.why on earth it would order a multlirole aircraft from a competitor when it makes it's own multirole aircraft to replace Tornado, which is a capable ground attack aircraft unless there is capability deficiency and as it turned out Typhoon was not what it was advertised to be.
 

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as you rightly said,there is no doubt that Swiss were extremely happy with their F-18s infact Swiss officials were extremely upset when Boeing opted not to participate in tender.The Swiss Department of Defence (DDPS) regretted the decision of Boeing,since the 33 F/A-18 C/D of the same manufacture have proven to be excellent value in Switzerland were the exact words from the Armasuisse release back in 2008.I've already pointed out the use of existing weapons in previous post.whether it's a easy choice for them is little doubtful because most of the countries who operate older F-18 H have bought it directly through FMS route without any tender or bidding except in couple of cases where Boeing F-18 H participated and won it.many a times Boeing with it's F-18SH has simply refused to participate in tenders citing disparity between the requirements or lack of level playing field.just like other US weapon manufacturers it also tries to influence the tender and sway the decision in it's favor through US Government.it happened with India also but it didn't succumb. if it was so easy,all the other countries who operate older F-18H would have directly upgraded to F-18 SH just like Australia and Kuwait instead of issuing tenders.regarding Germany ordering SH it's all political and technical.it possess B 61 nuclear bombs and Tornado is the only non US aircraft which is integrated to carry it,with it's replacement near,F-18SH was logical choice specially at the time when US with all gun blazing,is having trade wars with each and every other country and with this pandemic happening it will get much worse due to economic recession,so US would happily integrate B 61 bombs on SH rather than non US platforms.it's not impossible but would be hard for Germany to persuade US to integrate on other platforms.Germany which manufactures Typhoon ordering SH Blk-3 itself cast doubts on the performance and claimed multirole capability of Typhoon.why on earth it would order a multlirole aircraft from a competitor when it makes it's own multirole aircraft to replace Tornado, which is a capable ground attack aircraft unless there is capability deficiency and as it turned out Typhoon was not what it was advertised to be.
Typhoon and Rafale in general have very high running costs, hence majority of the those fleets in EU have availability of around 50% since there is no money to splurge. Sure they can manage 90% availability on a few aircraft during combat or air policing rotations but in regular time, they are mostly sitting sealed up in hangers. Storage Typhoons are often cannibalized for parts.

F-Teens in the EU usually have the higher availability rates and cheaper to operate.
 

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Typhoon and Rafale in general have very high running costs, hence majority of the those fleets in EU have availability of around 50% since there is no money to splurge. Sure they can manage 90% availability on a few aircraft during combat or air policing rotations but in regular time, they are mostly sitting sealed up in hangers. Storage Typhoons are often cannibalized for parts.

F-Teens in the EU usually have the higher availability rates and cheaper to operate.
while comparing with F-18SH, Typhoon & Rafale have higher running costs. running costs and aircraft availability rate are completely two different things.aircraft availability rate depends how well you manage your logistics,spare parts stocks and servicing.The problem of aircraft availability within EU is only with those who are operating Typhoon's.other EU members using F-16,F-18H,Gripen and Rafale(France) are having no issues with availability rate. as you said older Typhoon's are being cannibalized for parts but same is not the case for Arab Typhoon users because spare stocks are being redirected to them with priority.this itself shows how much serious they are with Typhoon program.despite being produced in almost same numbers as F-18SH,look at the status of both .how well F-18SH program have been managed and Typhoon's mismanagement.Thank god,India didn't fell for the trap with their revised bid during Rafale negotiation deadlock.as regarding availability rate of Rafale,despite being produced in much lesser numbers than it's competitors it has done a commendable job with acceptable running costs though still higher than F-18SH,never heard Rafale being cannibalized for parts.in Indian Rafale contract Dassault had to sign guarantee for the availability rate of 90%, i am not sure because i can't recall correctly because during Rafale scam nonsense,if you have followed,the airforce had come forward supporting the deal openly had done some press briefings.the then ACM BS Dhanoa sir,AM Raghunath Nambiar sir and AM SPB Sinha sir had given couple of interviews to different news channels.in those interviews one or two of them had said about the availability rate guarantee by Dassault.french member @BON PLAN can help with some statistics.The sheer number of F-Teens itself guarantees availability of spare parts and with US manufacturing there's no comparison.
 

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Made mistakes in previous post as rightly pointed by member @Tactical Frog . Dassault hadn't sign the guarantee for 90% availability rate but there was an agreement for 5 year performance based logistics package for €353 million ensuring availability rate of 75% by the manufacturer at all the times.this was the thing the ACM or AM said in the news channel.
 

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90% availability during peacetime is expensive for any platform.
Absolutely spot on.this type performance based logistics package makes perfect sense especially in the case of our Airforce which has always been plagued with availability rates of various platforms.in my opinion this type of package deal should be made mandatory and even more with HAL making them accountable for ensuring availability rate & quality assurance.
 

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