F-18 Advanced Super Hornet

[BON PLAN]

At what price ................?

95 euros million per plane.
All the fixed costs have already been purchase with the first 36.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

95 euros million per plane.
All the fixed costs have already been purchase with the first 36.

Armaments will cost extra ofcourse.

In comparision Shornet may be cheaper.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Indian firm delivers 1st panel assembly for US fighter F/A-18

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian firm delivers 1st panel assembly for US fighter
BENGALURU: Sasmos HET Technologies Limited delivered the first F/A-18 Super Hornet electrical panel assembly within six months from receipt of order to Boeing from its Bengaluru plant on Thursday.

The firm is under contract with Boeing to produce mission-critical equipment and cockpit panel assemblies for its F-15 and F/A-18 fighter aircraft, which a release issued here said is an "example of Boeing's ongoing support of the 'Make in India' initiative."
"This delivery demonstrates again that Indian suppliers, both big and small are becoming an integral part of Boeing's global supply chain," Boeing India PresidentPratyush Kumar said, adding that Boeing will continue to rapidly increase its efforts to enhance complex aerospace manufacturing in India.

Sasmos Managing Director HG Chandrasekhar said the firm has not only met the Boeing standards, but has also increased its production rate in a "relatively short timeframe."

Boeing, the release said is expanding its collaborations with Indian firms with the aim of building a world-class aerospace ecosystem in India.

"Boeing is expanding its collaboration with Indian industrial partners across manufacturing, engineering and IT sectors. The company continues to increase its footprint as direct and indirect suppliers and sourcing activities continue to grow rapidly," the release said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...embly-for-US-fighter/articleshow/54718999.cms

 

[Immanuel]

A desesperate try....

SH18 is not a nice fighter. Just see its weight and how many load it can take ! it's limited to 7.5 G .... too poor. It only has a good and big radar. It's a flying radar in fact.

Now that India has paid for fix costs for Rafale, all new Rafale will only costs less than 100 €million. No space for another (anemic) medium plane.
Even (and mainly) on Carrier.

Bye bye Super Hornet (The "Super" was never merited)

The Super Hornet already does everything the Rafale does at roughly half the cost, the SH is rated for 9G, limited by USN to 7.5 g by choice. Its AESA is best class, its weapons variety is best in class too, on any given day it flies more combat mission while being more thoroughly reliable. Rafale still has a long time before it can match the combat record of the SH. SH is possibly the most versatile 4.5 gen fighter 'today' while playing specific DEAD, buddy tanking, SEAD, EW roles, Anti ship roles, hefty bomb truck and satisfactory A2A roles with advanced targeting solutions while deploying among the widest set of weapons US arsenal. That already counts for a lot. It is also to cheaper to operate in the USN than the Rafale is for French Navy.

Rafale is better in some areas but it barely matches the SH in others.

 

[WolfPack86]

Boeing starts making India an Aerospace Power :: Bangalore manufactures FA-18s first Electrical Panel

Aerospace behemoth Boeing is getting a supply chain and the aerospace ecosystem ready as part of its proposal to the Ministry of defence to establish a modern production facility in the country to roll out advanced F/A-18 Super Hornets and next generation fighters best-suited for the next century, says Pratyush Kumar, president, Boeing India, and vice president of Boeing International.

On Thursday, Pratyush Kumar received the first electrical panel assembly manufactured for F/A-18 Super Hornets by Bengaluru-based SASMOS HET Technologies Limited as part of a multi-million dollar deal with the local small & medium enterprise.

“We will not wait for the decision or orders, but are getting the foundation ready and creating the most globally competitive supply chain in India. We have 30-odd direct and 130 indirect suppliers, and are looking at them to source components and systems (for F/A-18 Super Hornets).

Our philosophy is ground up, while others work on top down models,” he told to this newspaper. In view of MoD’s decision to scout for another fighter jet beyond the Rafale, Boeing’s proposal to roll out F/A-18 Super Hornets as part of the “Make in India” initiative now figures in government-to-government discussions.

“Today’s delivery of the critical electrical panel assembly is a seminal event for us. Most people will tell you we will do this or that, subject to getting orders,” he said.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/B...nufactures-FA-18s-first-Electrical-Panel-8563

 

[tejas warrior]

Boeing starts making India an Aerospace Power :: Bangalore manufactures FA-18s first Electrical Panel

Aerospace behemoth Boeing is getting a supply chain and the aerospace ecosystem ready as part of its proposal to the Ministry of defence to establish a modern production facility in the country to roll out advanced F/A-18 Super Hornets and next generation fighters best-suited for the next century, says Pratyush Kumar, president, Boeing India, and vice president of Boeing International.

On Thursday, Pratyush Kumar received the first electrical panel assembly manufactured for F/A-18 Super Hornets by Bengaluru-based SASMOS HET Technologies Limited as part of a multi-million dollar deal with the local small & medium enterprise.

“We will not wait for the decision or orders, but are getting the foundation ready and creating the most globally competitive supply chain in India. We have 30-odd direct and 130 indirect suppliers, and are looking at them to source components and systems (for F/A-18 Super Hornets).

Our philosophy is ground up, while others work on top down models,” he told to this newspaper. In view of MoD’s decision to scout for another fighter jet beyond the Rafale, Boeing’s proposal to roll out F/A-18 Super Hornets as part of the “Make in India” initiative now figures in government-to-government discussions.

“Today’s delivery of the critical electrical panel assembly is a seminal event for us. Most people will tell you we will do this or that, subject to getting orders,” he said.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/B...nufactures-FA-18s-first-Electrical-Panel-8563

Sorry, but what is electrical panel ??

How complex part it is ?

How much it cost ?

Who has IP for this product ? Boeing ?

Can this Indian manufacturer supply this for any other fighter other Americans without approval from Boeing ?

 

[BON PLAN]

The Super Hornet already does everything the Rafale does at roughly half the cost, the SH is rated for 9G, limited by USN to 7.5 g by choice. Its AESA is best class, its weapons variety is best in class too, on any given day it flies more combat mission while being more thoroughly reliable. Rafale still has a long time before it can match the combat record of the SH. SH is possibly the most versatile 4.5 gen fighter 'today' while playing specific DEAD, buddy tanking, SEAD, EW roles, Anti ship roles, hefty bomb truck and satisfactory A2A roles with advanced targeting solutions while deploying among the widest set of weapons US arsenal. That already counts for a lot. It is also to cheaper to operate in the USN than the Rafale is for French Navy.

Rafale is better in some areas but it barely matches the SH in others.

Half the price? Never. 2013 price is nearly 67 $ millions. Rafale is 95 euros millions in 2016 (twin seater version).
Limited by USN to 7.5 G ????? It's a joke? If they are so confident in the BVR, they could reduce it to 2G, so as to have a infinite life duration......

And what to say of this so nice fighter, weigting 30% more than Rafale and taking 15% less weapon ?

 

[Zebra]

Sorry, but what is electrical panel ??

How complex part it is ?

How much it cost ?

Its a product for that company who makes it in India.

Who has IP for this product ? Boeing ?
Can this Indian manufacturer supply this for any other fighter other Americans without approval from Boeing ?

Can India sell BrahMos to any other countries without approval from original developer......................?

Can chotabhai sell Rafale parts to anybody who wants to buy it without approval from original developer......................?

 

[Zebra]

Half the price?

Never. 2013 price is nearly 67 $ millions.

Sir, if it is not half, still it is way cheaper.

Rafale is 95 euros millions in 2016 (twin seater version).

French can have as much as they like.

Limited by USN to 7.5 G ????? It's a joke? If they are so confident in the BVR, they could reduce it to 2G, so as to have a infinite life duration......

And what to say of this so nice fighter, weigting 30% more than Rafale and taking 15% less weapon ?

Doesn't matter.

Still people like it to have F/A-18s .

At-least you can find many here on DFI.

 

[tejas warrior]

Its a product for that company who makes it in India.




Can India sell BrahMos to any other countries without approval from original developer......................?

Can chotabhai sell Rafale parts to anybody who wants to buy it without approval from original developer......................?

Got the answer from this.. means Boeing gave the technology to assemble electric panel to this Indian entity.. basically to support their case for F18.

Thanks.

 

[Scarface]

The whole aircraft deal news seems to have gone cold,there was a time where you'd have news every week

It's been a long while since we had any news about the 90 MRCA aircraft.

Hoping it's at least the Super Hornet.

 

[WolfPack86]

Boeing Offers To Build Super Hornets In India

BANGALORE: Aerospace behemoth Boeing is getting a supply chain and the aerospace ecosystem ready as part of its proposal to the Ministry of defence to establish a modern production facility in the country to roll out advanced F/A-18 Super Hornets and next generation fighters best-suited for the next century, says Pratyush Kumar, president, Boeing India, and vice president of Boeing International.
On Thursday, Pratyush Kumar received the first electrical panel assembly manufactured for F/A-18 Super Hornets by Bengaluru-based SASMOS HET Technologies Limited as part of a multi-million dollar deal with the local small & medium enterprise. “We will not wait for the decision or orders, but are getting the foundation ready and creating the most globally competitive supply chain in India. We have 30-odd direct and 130 indirect suppliers, and are looking at them to source components and systems (for F/A-18 Super Hornets). Our philosophy is ground up, while others work on top down models,” he told to this newspaper.
In view of MoD’s decision to scout for another fighter jet beyond the Rafale, Boeing’s proposal to roll out F/A-18 Super Hornets as part of the “Make in India” initiative now figures in government-to-government discussions. “Today’s delivery of the critical electrical panel assembly is a seminal event for us. Most people will tell you we will do this or that, subject to getting orders,” he said.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/10/boeing-offers-to-build-super-hornets-in.html

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

If Boeing is chosen how long before we get the 1st aircraft post agreement signing?

 

[Zebra]

Got the answer from this.. means Boeing gave the technology to assemble electric panel to this Indian entity.. basically to support their case for F18.

Thanks.

BTW, that Indian company made such products for F-15 too, if I am not wrong.

And I am afraid you are not getting the point.

OK, lets apply the same, for Indian Products.

If an ancillary manufacturer for LCA Tejas product, can he / she sell LCA Tejas parts to , (who ever he / she may be) any one , without approval from original developer..........................?..........!

 

[Zebra]

The whole aircraft deal news seems to have gone cold,there was a time where you'd have news every week

It's been a long while since we had any news about the 90 MRCA aircraft.

Hoping it's at least the Super Hornet.

Sir, still you got stuck at that 90 digit.

 

[Scarface]

Sir, still you got stuck at that 90 digit.

That's what we have 100% assurance of buying,maybe 100 if Boeing says it's the minimum for make in india order.

We don't know if more than 90 aircraft will be bought.

 

[BON PLAN]

Sir, if it is not half, still it is way cheaper.



French can have as much as they like.




Doesn't matter.

Still people like it to have F/A-18s .

At-least you can find many here on DFI.

SH18 is worst than FA18.
It's a flying cow !

 

[BON PLAN]

If Boeing is chosen how long before we get the 1st aircraft post agreement signing?

Never.
As US senate will never give you enough ToT !

 

[charlie]

Sorry, but what is electrical panel ??

How complex part it is ?

How much it cost ?

Who has IP for this product ? Boeing ?

Can this Indian manufacturer supply this for any other fighter other Americans without approval from Boeing ?

it's old so it's looks crappy a bit but if you see it intergrated it does not look bad.

2.5.1.1 Generator, GEN TIE Caution Lights, and Displays. Three caution lights, labeled L GEN, R GEN and GEN TIE are on the caution lights panel. The L GEN and R GEN caution lights and the L GEN and R GEN caution displays come on whenever their respective generator drops off the line. On aircraft 162394 AND UP, the GEN TIE caution light advises the pilot that the bus tie contactors are deenergized and the ac buses are isolated. The generator tie control switch, located outboard of the throttles on the left console, allows the pilot to override the ac bus isolation and generator auto reset circuitry and reenable the automatic bus tie ac circuit. These lights operate in conjunction with the MASTER CAUTION. In event of dual generator failure, the MASTER CAUTION light comes on (tone inoperative); however, the generator caution lights and displays and the generator tie caution light do not come on.
https://info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf

check out fig 2-9. Electrical system to get an idea