Exciting Times for Chinese Aircraft Engines!

[ym888]

was not china also same initially before ur MSS agents picked up the stealing acitvities on a war footing level ???

There is an interesting story from RAW -

In 90,s , One of the RAW officer complained to his boss in MEA that why they are not being allowed to steal /spy on soft targets like technologies etc ... apparently, he took inspiration from MSS agents who were openly stealing and recruiting academia in US / Europe ...

india was more advanced than China before 1949.



In 1982, India held the Asian Games.



Now Chinese don't care what Indians say, it's not on the same level

 

[rockdog]

Pure fantasy, for the Chinese to compete with Boeing they need something more than market.

Let me elaborate.

Alliances, what do we mean by that?

Aernnova is a Spanish company building aero components, in few words they build fuselage parts for both Boeing or Airbus.
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Embraer sells its Portuguese facilities to Aernnova

Embraer and Aernnova have concluded the sale of the metallurgy and composites industrial units located in the Évora Aeronautical Industrial Park, in Portugal.

www.aviacionline.com

So it means they benefit if Embraer also tells them to build some aero components, since Aernnova has facilities in Spain, Mexico, Portugal and British investors, you get benefits regardless what manufacturer, since they build for Airbus, Boeing or Embraer, the British benefit, the Portuguese, Spanish and Mexican too.

So why Frisa benefits regardless who sells, simple Pratt and Whitney, MTU, RR buy them parts, so you get benefits for a Mexican company so there is common interest for Airbus or Boeing to Grow.

What about Embraer? Embraer builds some parts of its airplanes but uses other companies for suppliers outside Brazil, there is final assembly in Brazil but some one in the USA, Mexico or Europe benefits.

So Brazil helps the European and American and even Argentina or Mexico, so what happens

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So buying Embraer means it helps Mexican workers too

Aernnova acquires Embraer's aerostructure factories in Portugal - Air Data News

Embraer announced the sale of two of its subsidiaries in Portugal that produce aerostructures. Aernnova, a partner of the Brazilian company in several

www.airway1.com

Why Russia can not compete? simple Poland was building many components for Il-86 and Il-96 so when the Soviet Union fell, the West ordered Poland to stop building parts for Il-86, plus Il-86 had inferior engines and needed four engines compared to B-767 or A-330, so what happened them

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So as long as China goes alone the ability they have is smaller to sell over seas, Embraer sells because many get benefits, same is Boeing or Airbus.

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So I will tell you Russia can not compete because Ukraine was so stupid to cut links with them, same was Poland and Russia is not allying her self with others except the thieves from the Chinese government so PD-35 excluded China and they are building a variant of Il-96 with twin engines PD-35.

For the Il-96 to be fitted with the new PD-35 turbofans, the aircraft would require a redesign of its wings. AINonline adds that Aviadvigatel expects the new engines to be available by 2025 or 2026. Interestingly, another aircraft that is set to use these turbofans is the CRAIC CR929 twinjet, of which production finally began earlier this week.

With this in mind, Ilyushin's parent company UAC is also reportedly considering using the new engines to develop a twin-engine version of the Il-96. This would offer lower operating costs than the existing quadjet configuration.

https://simpleflying.com/il-96-re-engine/

And same are engines

Safran supplier of the fan blades, booster and Fadec on the GEnx engine.


So even Airbus buys GEnx it will benefit France

China will need to do that or suffer the fate of Russia

LOL, you work for those brands dosen't you mean own those brands. You can make money from it but you have no chance to go up in the value chain.

Just like when you date a girl, you claim you working in Fortune 500 enterpise, but the fact is you are the Cashier guy in Walmart ...

 

[Kumata]

india was more advanced than China before 1949.



In 1982, India held the Asian Games.



Now Chinese don't care what Indians say, it's not on the same level

paper bills aside... India is still more advanced than china & technologically superior ..... offcourse , we never stole anything from anyone...

we too do not care what china says.... traditionally chinese have put world at risk with their nefarious activities & they have continued that....

Between , china have always received solid thrashing from us indians..

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Mexico's foreign trade reached a record high of nearly $1 trillion in 2021, according to data from Inegi, Mexico's national Statistics Agency. Among them, exports amounted to 494.224 billion US dollars, up 18.5% year on year, the largest increase in 11 years. Imports amounted to 505.716 billion US dollars, up 32.1% year on year. The trade deficit was $11.491 billion.



In terms of the product structure of Mexico's exports, oil exports reached us $28.925 billion, up 65.4% year on year. Agricultural exports reached 19.669 billion US dollars, up 7.6% year on year; Manufacturing exports reached 436.076 billion US dollars, up 16.7% year on year; Mining exports reached us $9.555 billion, up 29% year-on-year.



In terms of the mix of imported products, the import of intermediate products reached us $403.164 billion, up 32.7% year on year. Imports of consumer goods reached $62.018 billion, up 34.9% year on year; Imports of capital products reached $40.534 billion, up 21.8% year on year.

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Mexico lacks an industrial base, strong indigenous brands and core technologies.



You can't go up the value chain



Can only be a spare parts assembly factory

The Chinese Nazi claims Mexican we can not climb, Moron every one can design technology, my problem is not with the Chinese people, I like Taiwanese, Uyghurs and in general any person, but is with morons like you that over estimate what Asians or Chinese can do, we will advance we do not need idiotic opinions like you, all humans have the ability to create technology, so relax Nazi, we do not listen to morons like you who can tell us what we can do or not

 

[Kumata]

LOL, you work for those brands dosen't you mean own those brands. You can make money from it but you have no chance to go up in the value chain.

Just like when you date a girl, you claim you working in Fortune 500 enterpise, but the fact is you are the Cashier guy in Walmart ...

and still he can held his head high while chinese mans have to constrantly shout for validation....

Understand the diff CCP bot...

 

[rockdog]

like a typical Chinese troll, instead of talking engines or Industry go for personal attacks or how great and independent is China, talk aeronautics troll,


China as long as does not cooperate and continue with predatory policies will not advance and I will give an example that probably you do not know

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This is a motorcycle from a Mexican Brand, named Italika in reality is a Chinese motorcycle only assembled in Mexico, Italika is the top motorcycle brand in Mexico, 67% of the market is owned by them.

However they can not be exported to the USA or Canada under the T-MEC or new NAFTA because it has parts made in China, so it has not parts made in the USA, Canada or Mexico, so the Mexican brand pays Taxes to get the parts and only reduces costs by Mexican workers assembling them, but in the USA or Canada is considered a 100% Chinese Motorcycle.

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Same is Mexican solar Panels, this brand Solarever is from Mexico but the owner is a Chinese naturalized Mexican who receives direct investment and Technology from China, well is a troyan horse, what the USA did simple, Mexican Panels will Pay tariffs, so remember the Americans are not Stupid.

Not all the Solar panel bands are Chinese in Mexico but the Mexican companies pay for that, the Chinese are corrupt as Mexicans and the list goes and goes.

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This is a Moldex electric truck designed and built in Mexico, however is built by Giant Motors, a related company to JAC because they also build Chinese cars, so what the USA did, simple Electric cars from Mexico will pay taxes too, remember the Americans are not Stupid

Those stuff have no international exposure, it's from a 100 million population country, it's pathetic, who knows those components come from, maybe China. The solar panel and battery industry, China owns 50-70% share in the world.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

LOL, you work for those brands dosen't you mean own those brands. You can make money from it but you have no chance to go up in the value chain.

Just like when you date a girl, you claim you working in Fortune 500 enterpise, but the fact is you are the Cashier guy in Walmart ...

Ohh the another Chinese nazi says Mexican or Indians can not build technology, we do not listen to stupid opinions like yours, India and Mexico we well advance, we are humans we can think and we do not listen to stupid racist hypocrites like you which by the way have inferiority complex and want others to think like them and have inferiority complexes.

Listen, China deserve to build jet engines, but you do not deserve to impoverish other nations, so is good to tax your haeir or Lifen, you got all your tech by asking tech transfers from the west, so relax chinese you have not created everything you have stolen or copied and learn from others like any other human

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Those stuff have no international exposure, it's from a 100 million population country, it's pathetic, who knows those components come from, maybe China. The solar panel and battery industry, China owns 50-70% share in the world.

It does not change that that Solarever is a Troyan horse moron

 

[ym888]

paper bills aside... India is still more advanced than china & technologically superior ..... offcourse , we never stole anything from anyone...

we too do not care what china says.... traditionally chinese have put world at risk with their nefarious activities & they have continued that....

Between , china have always received solid thrashing from us indians..

Your answer is not unexpected.



Mumbai will be overtaken by Shanghai if it doesn't work hard

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Your answer is not unexpected.



Mumbai will be overtaken by Shanghai if it doesn't work hard

India has now a fast growing economy Moron, they have very smart people, and have tech you are the typical guy who is using Psy warfare to make them think they can not, but sorry Moron Indians will advance

 

[ym888]

The Chinese Nazi claims Mexican we can not climb, Moron every one can design technology, my problem is not with the Chinese people, I like Taiwanese, Uyghurs and in general any person, but is with morons like you that over estimate what Asians or Chinese can do, we will advance we do not need idiotic opinions like you, all humans have the ability to create technology, so relax Nazi, we do not listen to morons like you who can tell us what we can do or not

Take it easy.

I love Mexico and I love Latin America

 

[rockdog]

India has now a fast growing economy Moron, they have very smart people, and have tech you are the typical guy who is using Psy warfare to make them think they can not, but sorry Moron Indians will advance

How you can see how you ruined this thead, everything was fine, before you mentioned uygur issue.

 

[Kumata]

Your answer is not unexpected.



Mumbai will be overtaken by Shanghai if it doesn't work hard

Well,

Mumbai will always stay mumbai dude.... u better take care of shanghai...

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Take it easy.

I love Mexico and I love Latin America

then accept the bad thing of China I always accept there is poverty in Mexico, corruption, Crime, but I also admit what is wrong with my country, loving something means admitting bad things, China has the right to advance but no right to steal or destroy other countries industries, or become another colonial power, thus India has the right to advance, as any country has

 

[Kumata]

How you can see how you ruined this thead, everything was fine, before you mentioned uygur issue.

Pathar kutte,

the thread was ruined the moment, all CCP bots descented on here and started peddling CCP propoganda..

 

[rockdog]

Take it easy.

I love Mexico and I love Latin America

Me too, I think most Chinese love Latin America, because of football, Cuba, Che Guana, beef ...

But i never expect some dickhead loves US so much, Stockholm syndrome

 

[MiG-29SMT]

How you can see how you ruined this thead, everything was fine, before you mentioned uygur issue.

do you think the tech embargo to China is because you do not steal tech, exploit people in China or commit human atrocities and human cleansing welcome you, the Americans differ

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Me too, I think most Chinese love Latin America, because of football, Cuba, Che Guana, beef ...

But i never expect some dickhead loves US so much, Stockholm syndrome

She is my cousin Moron and she is American Moron you have the Beijing syndrome

 

[Kumata]

But i never expect some dickhead loves US so much, Stockholm syndrome

Pls don,t shout about yourself on this thread.... world knows u anyways!!!!!!

 

[rockdog]

then accept the bad thing of China I always accept there is poverty in Mexico, corruption, Crime, but I also admit what is wrong with my country, loving something means admitting bad things, China has the right to advance but no right to steal or destroy other countries industries, or become another colonial power, thus India has the right to advance, as any country has

Why Spanish colonzied you, raped your race, and you still believe in its religion?

Why when you believe Catholic but you lost 2 million KM2 to WASP based USA, and you are trying to believe you are one of WASP family?

Stockholm syndrome, Twice?