Exciting Times for Chinese Aircraft Engines!

[Kumata]

I don't like you. Whatever your kind I won't accept it.

Sorry mate... I am not here to marry u either. Pls keep. Ur opinions in ur pocket...

 

[ShouvikGhosh]

I never said Indians oppressed the Muslims. I was referring to the Dutch/British over India and Rome over the Celts. oops and also made reference to the British over the French
Inferior? where does this come into the discussion? I never said Indians were inferior.

This bloody Canadian retard completely ruined this thread.

Keep your shitass opinion to yourself & get the fuck out of this Indian forum if you hate Indians so much.

 

[KurtisBrian]

This bloody Canadian retard completely ruined this thread.

Keep your shitass opinion to yourself & get the fuck out of this Indian forum if you hate Indians so much.

and Indians in ABCANz nations will do the same? Return to India
Only use an Indian created and paid for internet.
Perhaps Germanic tribes in Europe and the Americans will return to Central Asia where they are from? from Alexander on has been war after war as they tried to return.
You are probably correct, I shouldn't be here. Talking to you leads me to think all Indians are like you and then I begin to hate India and all Indians.
I had merely a negative opinion of Muslims until I was on PDF.

 

[Angel of War]

if you are unable to comprehend what I wrote the fault is yours not mine.

ever thought about correcting your mistakes instead of ballantly accusing others ?

 

[ShouvikGhosh]

and Indians in ABCANz nations will do the same? Return to India
Only use an Indian created and paid for internet.
Perhaps Germanic tribes in Europe and the Americans will return to Central Asia where they are from? from Alexander on has been war after war as they tried to return.
You are probably correct, I shouldn't be here. Talking to you leads me to think all Indians are like you and then I begin to hate India and all Indians.
I had merely a negative opinion of Muslims until I was on PDF.

Who the fuck you think you are ?
I have been too cordial to you just because I honour this platform. And I come here for defence related discussions.

You are worse than the Muslims. Since Indians allow you to make such comments on this site they prove that Indians are worse than Muslims

You think you can get away by making racist comments against Indians in an Indian platform ?

You bloody hell, have an inflated selfworth. And we don't give two hoots about fucking nobody's like you.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

There is No Mexican engine. There is No Mexican fighter aircraft. Still he insists on spending his time in a Chinese turbofan engine thread just to derail it with nonsense

These are the Chinese turbofan projects relevant to this thread:

WS-10B : J-16, J-10C, J-15S, J-15T (CATOBAR), J-11D (in prototype)

W-10C: J-20

WS-10 TVC: showcased on J-10B; possibly productionize for future J-10 and J-20

WS-20: Y-20's intended engine!

WS-13E: On prototype of FC-31 and tested on JF-17

WS-15: Developing for J-20 (180Kn!)

WS-19: developing for J-31/J-35 (110Kn!)

WS-11: light engine being developed for JL-8 trainer

WS-17: light engine being developed for JL-10 trainer

WS-18: bomber engine mainly for H-6 series; secondary use in transports, reportedly on Y-20s

CJ1000A: commercial high-bypass engine being developed for the C919. Along with WS-15 and WS-19, it is among the most anticipated projects in China.

I said there is no Mexican fighter engines true, but there are Mexican designing components for GEnx, Leap Engines and others and Frisa builds many many jet engine nacelles for RR, MTU, Pratt and Whitney.

Tell me which engine is more sold, WS-20 or GEnx?

Tell me which engine is used on C919? yes Leap engine has parts made in Mexico.

So tell me how come GE has the largest design center outside the US in Mexico?

why? simple they trust us, their intelectual property is keep, they do not need to share technology, just give jobs

This guy is designing parts for GE engines, he is Mexican, and a white guy but do not worry we are not a race, in Mexico we are multiracial and every one is free

See Jose Torre is behind a very large engine bigger than your WS-20

There he is saying we are designing jet engine parts those are GE aircraft jet engines

You can see another Mexican he is another type of Mexican so you can learn we are multi racial Like India or the Arabs

watch the videos enjoy set the subtitles in English

He is the boss Vladimiro de la Mora, He directs GEIQ

GEIQ offices

In Mexico they design the VSV parts of jet engines

some of the parts designed there
get your pop corn and set the subtitles to the video

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Dear sister, everyone has the right to express his/her opinion. Mexico may not have an independent engine family but they are a part of an ecosystem. Which contributes to their technical know how, as well as to the Aerospace industry they serve.

We may not be fanboying on WS engine always, but we appreciate the achievement & take queues on how our own industries can evolve over time. That's the point of this discussion.

that is correct, he came to boast not to learn or discuss.

In general terms India by 2035 will have jet engines of your own, who cares if you received help, in reality that shows they trust you to give you some tech transfers and it is more practical, this guy can not see why is better cooperation.

I will explain, the jet engine market is small a few engines types for few aircraft projects.

b-787 or A-350 basically they can use the same engines.

Sukhoi regional jet 100 uses a French/Russian engine, the main problem is this engine is build for a jet with very low success which means very low profit and investment recovery, when they design engines with several nations ensure a project can have more risks partners thus they share a smaller investment commitment, as they design a single program they can build more aircraft for less investment.

Japan builds parts for B-787 and engine parts for GE.

If India or Brazil design jet engines the reality is they will be building less aircraft and there is more risk for failure, it is more logic build a multinational program, the reality Boeing, Airbus, RR, GE are international programs thus is better cooperate, China is vetoed because they are thieves, nothing to do with race, Japan is oriental but they are in, same South Korea.

Russia will build PD-35 but the aircraft that might use it are fewer than Trent, thus the risk for Russia is higher than for UK

 

[no smoking]

That's the best way to put it. The problem with the Chinese is they are both the judge and the jury.

Really? Judge and jury don't need to put out evidence. In most of case, the so called "Chinese progress" come with evidence - such as pictures, or foreign media papers.

Certainly, you are welcome to question their evidences.

They sing their own praise & no one else does it.

Really? Just look through Kaveri engine, you find many Indian members sing their praise too.

Rather than working collaboratively with the rest of the world- they rely on their own R & D, IP theft & ginormous amounts of money to solve any problem (including that of high tech jet engines). They suffer from the "we are competing with the rest of the world" syndrome- hence have a schizophrenic outlook towards everything with only NoKo and Pakistan to call "friends".

Well, any country wants to be on the top of world, it is stupid rather than naïve to believe others will be happy to provide assistance.

Please refrain from putting others down to show yourself up. As for your charge against India, that answer is complicated and the biggest reason for our failure with jet engines is the Indian Govt's priorities- specifically a lack of focus on the military. Flying & jet engine research needs a niche skill and a lot of money. Our politicians are ready to fund billions of $s in socially and politically uplifting schemes for the poor than spend the same money on some obscure tech even if it is hard to obtain and strategically critical. Here the biggest worry of any politician is to keep the electorate happy in the hope of re-election, so pandering to the poor among the public (of which there are many) via socialist goals. Mr Xi OTOH has no such compulsions.

Well, there are 2 types of elections, one by bullet, one by vote.
In 1949, Chinese selected CCP (who swear to put China back to her position at any cost) to lead this country by the civil war. 70 years later, they don't think there is need for another election.
For India, no matter what political parties dominate the government, they all choose the similar policy on the funding. It is Indian people's choice, not your government's fault.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

No Mexican fighter or engine just a Mexican claiming credit for an American engine with pages after pages of false equivalency of how contract work made the GE GenX engine part Mexican

 

[MiG-29SMT]

No Mexican fighter or engine just a Mexican claiming credit for an American engine with pages after pages of false equivalency of how contract work made the GE GenX engine part Mexican

Is your new Mantra? are you praying or trying to convince you the world is different to your small world, you do not advance, aircraft are business As long as Frisa makes money, Vladimiro de la Mora or Jose Torre design parts for jet engines and have a salary, your position is stupid, we are already designing parts for GE or ITP or building jet engines parts for Safran so you are just a typical Chinese guy with no understanding what is aerospace.

The engines parts designed in Mexico are for the most advanced current jet engines with the largest sales and use for Airbus or Boeing aircraft

Plus it generate jobs, people have salaries and can live

 

[MiG-29SMT]

No Mexican fighter or engine just a Mexican claiming credit for an American engine with pages after pages of false equivalency of how contract work made the GE GenX engine part Mexican

GEnx
Major applications	Boeing 747-8 Boeing 787 Dreamliner

Let us see,how many Y-20 are built and how many B-787 are built?

GEnx can power a twin engine aircraft full of passengers, Y-20 needs 4 engines to put it simple Vladimiro de la Mora works for a more advanced jet engine and more successful

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Is your new Mantra? are you praying or trying to convince you the world is different to your small world, you do not advance, aircraft are business As long as Frisa makes money, Vladimiro de la Mora or Jose Torre design parts for jet engines and have a salary, your position is stupid, we are already designing parts for GE or ITP or building jet engines parts for Safran so you are just a typical Chinese guy with no understanding what is aerospace

You are a delusional weirdo.

There are no Mexican engines powering Mexican aircraft so I no have idea what you are trying to prove.

Anyways, these are Chinese turbofans powering current production aircraft, being flown in testbeds or in static testing.

WS-10B : J-16, J-10C, J-15S, J-15T (CATOBAR), J-11D (in prototype)

W-10C: J-20

WS-10 TVC: showcased on J-10B; possibly productionize for future J-10 and J-20

WS-20: Y-20's intended engine!

WS-13E: On prototype of FC-31 and tested on JF-17

WS-15: Developing for J-20 (180Kn!)

WS-19: developing for J-31/J-35 (110Kn!)

WS-11: light engine being developed for JL-8 trainer

WS-17: light engine being developed for JL-10 trainer

WS-18: bomber engine mainly for H-6 series; secondary use in transports, reportedly on Y-20s

CJ1000A: commercial high-bypass engine being developed for the C919.

Delusional mental gynastics doesn't make the GenX part Mexican. There is nothing we can look forward to in future from Mexico like the WS-19 or J-35 or even a trainer engine like the WS-17.

You can track each of the above 11 Chinese programs clearly and in no uncertain terms. You don't have post reams of delusional garbage equivalent to claiming Mexican ownership of an American engine because a Mexican might have swept the floors at GE.

So Boeing 787 is now a Mexican victory. What a delusional weirdo

 

[MiG-29SMT]

You are a delusional weirdo.

There are no Mexican engines powering Mexican aircraft so I no have idea what you are trying to prove.

Anyways, these are Chinese turbofans powering current production aircraft, being flown in testbeds or in static testing.

WS-10B : J-16, J-10C, J-15S, J-15T (CATOBAR), J-11D (in prototype)

W-10C: J-20

WS-10 TVC: showcased on J-10B; possibly productionize for future J-10 and J-20

WS-20: Y-20's intended engine!

WS-13E: On prototype of FC-31 and tested on JF-17

WS-15: Developing for J-20 (180Kn!)

WS-19: developing for J-31/J-35 (110Kn!)

WS-11: light engine being developed for JL-8 trainer

WS-17: light engine being developed for JL-10 trainer

WS-18: bomber engine mainly for H-6 series; secondary use in transports, reportedly on Y-20s

CJ1000A: commercial high-bypass engine being developed for the C919.

Delusional mental gynastics doesn't make the GenX part Mexican. There is nothing we can look forward to in future from Mexico like the WS-19 or J-35 or even a trainer engine like the WS-17.

You can track each of the above 11 Chinese programs clearly and in no uncertain terms. You don't have post reams of delusional garbage equivalent to claiming Mexican ownership of an American engine because a Mexican might have swept the floors at GE.

So Boeing 787 is now a Mexican victory. What a delusional weirdo

I never said GEnx is a total Mexican Victory the Brand is American and definitively more nations are contributing like Japan the wierdo is you, I said Mexican Engineers partially are designing the engine, so a small part is a Mexican Victory yes it is and the engine is by far more advanced than WS-20, and Vladimiro de la Mora and GEIQ are in Mexico designing those parts of the GEnx , they have patents to prove it. thus they do not care about a Chinese that feels rejected by the Americans, they are part of a successful team you are a no one who boast what others do, but hardly understand what is aerospace

 

[MiG-29SMT]

You are a delusional weirdo.

There are no Mexican engines powering Mexican aircraft so I no have idea what you are trying to prove.

Anyways, these are Chinese turbofans powering current production aircraft, being flown in testbeds or in static testing.

WS-10B : J-16, J-10C, J-15S, J-15T (CATOBAR), J-11D (in prototype)

W-10C: J-20

WS-10 TVC: showcased on J-10B; possibly productionize for future J-10 and J-20

WS-20: Y-20's intended engine!

WS-13E: On prototype of FC-31 and tested on JF-17

WS-15: Developing for J-20 (180Kn!)

WS-19: developing for J-31/J-35 (110Kn!)

WS-11: light engine being developed for JL-8 trainer

WS-17: light engine being developed for JL-10 trainer

WS-18: bomber engine mainly for H-6 series; secondary use in transports, reportedly on Y-20s

CJ1000A: commercial high-bypass engine being developed for the C919.

Delusional mental gynastics doesn't make the GenX part Mexican. There is nothing we can look forward to in future from Mexico like the WS-19 or J-35 or even a trainer engine like the WS-17.

You can track each of the above 11 Chinese programs clearly and in no uncertain terms. You don't have post reams of delusional garbage equivalent to claiming Mexican ownership of an American engine because a Mexican might have swept the floors at GE.

So Boeing 787 is now a Mexican victory. What a delusional weirdo

3d printed gas turbine printed in Mexico shown by Vladimiro de la Mora for GE at lower scale

You never have done that


Mexican cute lady, real sexy lady doing thermal design for GE turbines in GEQI Queretaro

Outside the USA, GEQI is the only center able to sign a drawing, which means only outside the USA to send it for manufacture

The fastest ship in the world has a turbine which the outer parts were designed in GEQI Mexico

 

[MiG-29SMT]

You are a delusional weirdo.

There are no Mexican engines powering Mexican aircraft so I no have idea what you are trying to prove.

Anyways, these are Chinese turbofans powering current production aircraft, being flown in testbeds or in static testing.

WS-10B : J-16, J-10C, J-15S, J-15T (CATOBAR), J-11D (in prototype)

W-10C: J-20

WS-10 TVC: showcased on J-10B; possibly productionize for future J-10 and J-20

WS-20: Y-20's intended engine!

WS-13E: On prototype of FC-31 and tested on JF-17

WS-15: Developing for J-20 (180Kn!)

WS-19: developing for J-31/J-35 (110Kn!)

WS-11: light engine being developed for JL-8 trainer

WS-17: light engine being developed for JL-10 trainer

WS-18: bomber engine mainly for H-6 series; secondary use in transports, reportedly on Y-20s

CJ1000A: commercial high-bypass engine being developed for the C919.

Delusional mental gynastics doesn't make the GenX part Mexican. There is nothing we can look forward to in future from Mexico like the WS-19 or J-35 or even a trainer engine like the WS-17.

You can track each of the above 11 Chinese programs clearly and in no uncertain terms. You don't have post reams of delusional garbage equivalent to claiming Mexican ownership of an American engine because a Mexican might have swept the floors at GE.

So Boeing 787 is now a Mexican victory. What a delusional weirdo

Honeywell shows off its aeronautics plant in Mexicali, Mexico
The Wind Tunnel that it installed last year is already testing turbines for Boeing.

The Wind Tunnel generates speeds of up to 333 kilometers per hour, with a 3,000 horsepower engine, and is currently used to test the turbine of the Boeing 777x aircraft.

Honeywell presume su planta de aeronáutica en Mexicali

El Túnel de Viento que instaló el año pasado ya hace pruebas de turbinas para Boeing.

manufactura.mx

The North American company, with a presence in Mexico since 1936, inaugurated a new research and development center with the presence of Mexican authorities. Some of Honeywell's developments for space.

The Director General of the Mexican Space Agency (AEM), Dr. Javier Mendieta Jiménez, attended the inauguration of the first research and development center in Mexico for Honeywell, a leading company in the global aerospace sector.

Inauguran Centro de I+D de Honeywell en México — Latam Satelital

La compañía norteamericana, con presencia en México desde 1936, inauguró un nuevo centro de investigación y desarrollo con la presencia de autoridades mexicanas. Algunos de los desarrollos de Honeywell para el espacio. El Director General de la Agencia Espacial Mexicana (AEM), Dr. Javier...

latamsatelital.com

Crece infraestructura de Honeywell Aerospace

Tienen el “túnel del viento” más grande de Latinoamérica

www.lavozdelafrontera.com.mx

 

[smartnet]

Made some parts in the supply chain. No one thinks Mexico is an industrialized country.
But Ukraine is considered an industrialized country.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Made some parts in the supply chain. No one thinks Mexico is an industrialized country.
But Ukraine is considered an industrialized country.

Ukraine now only has good chicks, without Russia Antonov and Lotarev are going to rust proof, well well Russia is the true free nation, by per capita and sheer GDP Russia surpasses Mexico, Ukraine does not

 

[smartnet]

Ukraine now only has good chicks, without Russia Antonov and Lotarev are going to rust proof, well well Russia is the true free nation, by per capita and sheer GDP Russia surpasses Mexico, Ukraine does not

In the past, the foundation was good, and now there are many talents.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

In the past, the foundation was good, and now there are many talents.

You have been a great nation but is not technology what matters, but sales, you have the technology, but you have not the sales, when you broke relations with Russia, your industry lost its main market, I recommend you read, remember the 3rd Largest aviation industry is in Brazil, Embraer, is a real industry, in aviation sells more than Russia, and in WWI we had technology, we are not going for making an aircraft industry for pride things but business things, If the Americans or France allow us to sell products, get salaries well we will be suppliers, because is better to sell than just have the technology without sales, Ukraine which basically is the original Russia has shot herself in the legs, Russia was your market, Europe will only allow you to become like Mexico, yes they want you as suppliers and tell me how many An-225 you built?

Without alliances is impossible to create an aircraft industry and at this moment is not that you do not have the technology, you do but you lack alliances, you can built An-178 but you can not sell them as E-190.

 

[Kumata]

I never said GEnx is a total Mexican Victory the Brand is American and definitively more nations are contributing like Japan the wierdo is you, I said Mexican Engineers partially are designing the engine, so a small part is a Mexican Victory yes it is and the engine is by far more advanced than WS-20, and Vladimiro de la Mora and GEIQ are in Mexico designing those parts of the GEnx , they have patents to prove it. thus they do not care about a Chinese that feels rejected by the Americans, they are part of a successful team you are a no one who boast what others do, but hardly understand what is aerospace

You know arguments, counter arguments, logical arguments do not work with brain washed people specifically when they are Trained on CCP / ISI PAYROLL Or educated in madrassa. As a thumb rule, never try to prove anything to Chinese & Pakistani, s. Ultimately, disillusioned that they are... They will keep parroting same line for next 1000 years... It, s a diff matter that soil beneath them will be gone too but they will still say that earth is flat....

Move on mate...