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is there an ASQR for this Brahmos AWACS killer from Indian airforce?

don’t think ASQR exists for Brahmos NG as well.
Ya'll Nibbiars ASQR was never made for any Bharmos Variant. It's probably funded by some special programme's.
 
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Brahmos AWACS killer variant will be ready by 2024.
Brahmos will be now used in air to air role.
Don't think this will work. Once sfdr tech is ready . That missile can easily do the job of awacs hunting at 300+ km away . It will be far more agile than bramhos and will be able to integrate with almost all iaf jets .
 

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Don't think this will work. Once sfdr tech is ready . That missile can easily do the job of awacs hunting at 300+ km away . It will be far more agile than bramhos and will be able to integrate with almost all iaf jets .
@IndianHawk, you seem to be most upto date on the missiles....is it possible and if you have time, can you list out deployed missiles by range and their origin as of now and also the ones getting deployed in next 2 years...no worries as I understand it could be too much time, too much confusion as we keep hearing imports of lot of things but then again DRDO testing and what not
 

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@IndianHawk, you seem to be most upto date on the missiles....is it possible and if you have time, can you list out deployed missiles by range and their origin as of now and also the ones getting deployed in next 2 years...no worries as I understand it could be too much time, too much confusion as we keep hearing imports of lot of things but then again DRDO testing and what not
Like I said before all strategic missiles ( means nuclear capable) are of indian origin only. Engine are indian and so are seeker and other important mechanisms . Ranges are given in Wikipedia which are pretty much correct as far as public information is available. We never declared actual range.

About upcoming missiles . All seekers will be indiginious . Engine wise barring bramhos I think everything else is either indian or will be indian in next 2-3 years. Even bramhos engine will be replaced by lfrj.

Kalyani is building small turbofan engine for smaller short range missiles and drones. So there is also private option available pretty soon.
 

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Like I said before all strategic missiles ( means nuclear capable) are of indian origin only. Engine are indian and so are seeker and other important mechanisms . Ranges are given in Wikipedia which are pretty much correct as far as public information is available. We never declared actual range.

About upcoming missiles . All seekers will be indiginious . Engine wise barring bramhos I think everything else is either indian or will be indian in next 2-3 years. Even bramhos engine will be replaced by lfrj.

Kalyani is building small turbofan engine for smaller short range missiles and drones. So there is also private option available pretty soon.
Sorry, I meant non-strategic and aircraft carried ones....we still keep buying pythons, derbys and meteors and R-73/77 and what not....so are you saying in the next 2 or 4 years this will stop?
 

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Sorry, I meant non-strategic and aircraft carried ones....we still keep buying pythons, derbys and meteors and R-73/77 and what not....so are you saying in the next 2 or 4 years this will stop?
We haven't bought any new Derby . We already have stock of Derby and python thanks to Spyder sam system we are simply utilising that stock.

Old Navy harrier also had Derby stock which is transferred to Tejas.

Some Derby ER may have been bought as they provide us advantage over paki aim102 c5 till Astra mk2 comes along.

Astra mk2 ( dual pulse 160km) and later sfdr based Astra mk3 ( 300+ km ) will end bvr import for india. Astra mk2 will be inducted by 2023 and mk3 by 2026.

Astra iir is also in works with infrared seeker to replace wvr missiles.

Now ofcourse Rafale and su30mki might continue to get some advanced french and russian missiles in limited quantity to maintain diversity and provide more options against enemies.

Rudram series (with lfrj engine) of air to ground missile will provide air to surface supersonic component while itcm based on Nirbhaya with Manik engine will provide subsonic cruise missile.

Bramhos will retain some russian parts as it's joint venture . So if sfdr btw.
 

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We haven't bought any new Derby . We already have stock of Derby and python thanks to Spyder sam system we are simply utilising that stock.

Old Navy harrier also had Derby stock which is transferred to Tejas.

Some Derby ER may have been bought as they provide us advantage over paki aim102 c5 till Astra mk2 comes along.

Astra mk2 ( dual pulse 160km) and later sfdr based Astra mk3 ( 300+ km ) will end bvr import for india. Astra mk2 will be inducted by 2023 and mk3 by 2026.

Astra iir is also in works with infrared seeker to replace wvr missiles.

Now ofcourse Rafale and su30mki might continue to get some advanced french and russian missiles in limited quantity to maintain diversity and provide more options against enemies.

Rudram series (with lfrj engine) of air to ground missile will provide air to surface supersonic component while itcm based on Nirbhaya with Manik engine will provide subsonic cruise missile.

Bramhos will retain some russian parts as it's joint venture . So if sfdr btw.
So wait and see till 2024/25 on how much percent of our missiles are domestic vs foreign....former should gradually increase its share while the later should become niche.
 

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The most complex part of the system will be seeker and engine .

If we are developing both what is the need for missile to be a JV under Brahmos .

What is the contribution of Russia ?

We could have gone for a new series of indeginous supersonic CMs , keeping the money ourselves instead of splitting .
at that point we signed the deal we were only trying to master.and now brahmos aerospace is too big and useful and so it is given orders.parallel devlopment of other supersonic and hypersonic missiles will take place.
 

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There is no A2A BrahMos under development, CEO of BrahMos aerospace clearly said last year in a Webinar in which I participated.
Yeah it was a proposal and would be too expensive and bulky , it won't be used for fughter jet as but awacs so ,not much useful as it's knly advantage in manuverability would be not much useful as rhose platform are slow
 

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India’s 1st pvt Hall Thruster for satellite e-propulsion developed | India News - Times of India

In a first, space transportation firm Bellatrix Aerospace has tested the country’s first privately built Hall Thruster, a highly efficient electric propulsion system for satellites. Tests were carried out at the sophisticated spacecraft propulsion research laboratory Bellatrix has set up at the Indian Institute of Science’s (IISc) Society for Innovation and Development (SID).
The company had earlier developed the world’s first commercial Microwave Plasma Thruster, which used water as fuel, and for which the company had bagged an order from Isro.
A Hall Thruster, initially developed in Russia, is a device that employs electric and magnetic fields to ionize propellant gases such as Xenon to produce thrust. Today, it is the most reliable and time tested electric propulsion system in the global market.
Bellatrix CEO and CTO Rohan M Ganapthy, told TOI: “The company has been working on this technology in stealth mode for four years. The Heaterless Cathode Technology is the key innovation that sets us apart from the competition by increasing life and redundancy and life of the system. We are also the first ones in the country to have designed it to operate efficiently at very low current levels.”


 

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