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IMO very risky option in areas with adjoining seismic zones

Idhar Porky air force base destroy kiya udhar gujrat me earthquake aa gya

it's better to equip existing missiles with earth penetrators . can u shed more light on penetration cum earth shake warhead of prithvi.

 

[Bajirao]

Which mizzile be this

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Looks like prahaar , but the dimensions don't fit . This one seems to be stubbier.

From where did you get this pic?

 

[Bajirao]

Which mizzile be this

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Looks like prahaar , but the dimensions don't fit . This one seems to be stubbier.

It's pranash.....sure

 

[Bajirao]

I think in pranash,drdo should increase warhead weight to 300 kg from 200 kg..even a 600 kg. Smerc rocket has 250 kg. warhead

 

[Bajirao]

It's pranash.....sure

Although the new prahar model,which shown in defexpo2020 is similar to the pic and different from earlier prahar design

 

[porky_kicker]

@Bajirao

AFAIK

Rudra M series missiles are aeroballistic missiles .

Rudra M2 and Rudra M2A are supersonic aeroballistic air to ground missiles. Weight 700 kg range 300+ km. M2 & M2A difference is in type of warhead / seeker

Rudra M3 is a hypersonic aeroballistic missile. Weight 1.6 tonnes and range 500+ km.

 

[porky_kicker]

it's better to equip existing missiles with earth penetrators . can u shed more light on penetration cum earth shake warhead of prithvi.

Heavy earth penetrators cannot be mounted on missiles . It is not feasible IMO due to extremely high weight requirement of the HEP. Hypersonic RV ( as HEP ) mounted on IRBM / ICBM will be required to produce the desired results. Or make a MOAB to be dropped by heavy bombers / aircrafts.

BCES ( blast cum earth shock ) warhead

AFAIK

It is gnerally used against runway tracks , is capable of inflicting craters to the tracks, and making them serviceable. it can also be used against other targets like staging areas , depots , fuel dumps etc.

CEP of the warhead : 150 m
Lethal radius of the warhead : 250m
Number of bomblets : 32
Lethal radius of the bomblet : 3.2m

 

[porky_kicker]

Left one is BCES warhead. Either 500kg or 1000kg

All warheads of prithvi missile can be interchanged on field as per mission requirement.

 

[BangaliBabu]

Heavy earth penetrators cannot be mounted on missiles . It is not feasible IMO due to extremely high weight requirement of the HEP. Hypersonic RV ( as HEP ) mounted on IRBM / ICBM will be required to produce the desired results. Or make a MOAB to be dropped by heavy bombers / aircrafts.

BCES ( blast cum earth shock ) warhead

AFAIK

It is gnerally used against runway tracks , is capable of inflicting craters to the tracks, and making them serviceable. it can also be used against other targets like staging areas , depots , fuel dumps etc.

CEP of the warhead : 150 m
Lethal radius of the warhead : 250m
Number of bomblets : 32
Lethal radius of the bomblet : 3.2m

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The picture is from a prithvi test??

 

[porky_kicker]

This one is MLPGM which PKS wrongly identifies as SANT

Other pics of MLPGM

The name Missile Launched PGM (MLPGM) is given because multiple nos of it will be fitted inside a mother ballistic missile as payload and released during over target area, then the multiple MLPGM's will independently seek, acquire, persue and home on the targets.

Theoretically a few no of missiles fitted with MLPGM payloads can take out entire SAM complex along with radars , support vehicles , reload vehicles , C2 vehicles and launchers.

Same for hostile missile batteries both cruise and ballistic along with their support vehicles.

AFAIK this concept of a carrier missile system with multiple missiles piggybacking as payload is unique.

Also as standalone MLPGM will be used to arm our UAVs

 

[porky_kicker]

Only detailed picture of SANT available till date

Note the MMW seeker antenna in the nose section

 

[porky_kicker]

The picture is from a prithvi test??

Yes , warhead test possibly

 

[Bajirao]

This one is MLPGM which PKS wrongly identifies as SANT

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Other pics of MLPGM

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The name Missile Launched PGM (MLPGM) is given because multiple nos of it will be fitted inside a mother ballistic missile as payload and released during over target area, then the multiple MLPGM's will independently seek, acquire, persue and home on the targets.

Theoretically a few no of missiles fitted with MLPGM payloads can take out entire SAM complex along with radars , support vehicles , reload vehicles , C2 vehicles and launchers.

Same for hostile missile batteries both cruise and ballistic along with their support vehicles.

AFAIK this concept of a carrier missile system with multiple missiles piggybacking as payload is unique.

Also as standalone MLPGM will be used to arm our UAVs

It seems there are two missile side by side,one big another small

 

[Tuco]

This one is MLPGM which PKS wrongly identifies as SANT

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Other pics of MLPGM

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The name Missile Launched PGM (MLPGM) is given because multiple nos of it will be fitted inside a mother ballistic missile as payload and released during over target area, then the multiple MLPGM's will independently seek, acquire, persue and home on the targets.

Theoretically a few no of missiles fitted with MLPGM payloads can take out entire SAM complex along with radars , support vehicles , reload vehicles , C2 vehicles and launchers.

Same for hostile missile batteries both cruise and ballistic along with their support vehicles.

AFAIK this concept of a carrier missile system with multiple missiles piggybacking as payload is unique.

Also as standalone MLPGM will be used to arm our UAVs

Wouldn't the mother missile have to be huge to carry them?

 

[Bajirao]

@Bajirao

AFAIK

Rudra M series missiles are aeroballistic missiles .

Rudra M2 and Rudra M2A are supersonic aeroballistic air to ground missiles. Weight 700 kg range 300+ km. M2 & M2A difference is in type of warhead / seeker

Rudra M3 is a hypersonic aeroballistic missile. Weight 1.6 tonnes and range 500+ km.

But rudraM1 is ng-arm, which is rocket powered but not ballistic

 

[porky_kicker]

But rudraM1 is ng-arm, which is rocket powered but not ballistic

NGARM is dual pulse propulsion

AFAIK there is no such thing as rudram1

Rumours of ngarm as rudram1 was started in BR

You are a member of BR , I know that

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Which mizzile be this

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Looks like prahaar , but the dimensions don't fit . This one seems to be stubbier.

Rudram series missile??!

 

[porky_kicker]

Wouldn't the mother missile have to be huge to carry them?

No

A stubbier missile will increased dia will do the job

Eg theoretically speaking

Pralay missile has a range of 350 km with 1 ton warhead

MLPGM weight < 50 kg

( So if only weight is the determinant then theoretically 20 MLPGMs per Pralay )

However
I have no idea of dimensions of MLPGM but it is smaller than NAG
Also I have no idea of dimensions of Pralay to calculate the size constraints for MLPGMs ie how many MLPGMs can be included within the warhead section of Pralay.

But since the weight is not a constraint , the dimension of Pralay can easily be catered ( changed/redesigned ) to include multiple no's of MLPGMs as payload if required.

 

[porky_kicker]

Rudram series missile??!

No

AFAIK rudram2

AFAIK rudram3

Both of them superficially look same but note the tail fins , they are different.

 

[porky_kicker]

It seems there are two missile side by side,one big another small

That is the mirach drone , underneath with the MLPGM is slung for airborne testfire.