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:) i mean that if ruskies are selling openly then we may sell ammo to ukraine too in limited amount
Tomorrow when war stopped and then Russia may start selling more to Pakistan then what will you do??

Just think how immature your thinking is, to earn few thausands dollars you are ready to jeopardize 50% of Indian defence.

You also want to loss a solid UN veto power, historical time tested powerful ally who never harm Indian interests, Trump card against China, valiant member of multipolar world, cheap oil, High GDP when others are struggling due to relatively low fuel cost, Nuclear Power and it's technology.

Today if India started lecturing West is not something we have got our mojo back suddenly ?? Remember when Donald Trump disrespectfully asked India to deliver Chloroquine during COVID pandemic and India obliged.

Today if we have got our worth recognised internationally it because of Russia which fighting and brought West on its knee. Otherwise we had stuck in Goldilock zone indefinitely ( According to Jayshankar )

Here few Tik-Tokers want to earn few thausands dollars by selling shells to Ukraine just because they want to avange Russian supply 4 Mi helicopter and 52 Kornet-E missiles.

Thank God India's foreign policy has never been such hands.
 

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Are you guys sure India do not have end user aggreement?? Maybe not as stringent as America/Europe but there is always a end user aggreement for weapons.

By your logic what if ISIS got Indian weapons from second party and use it against civilians?? Our whole life will go waste to explain the world that we are innocent.

There is always end user aggreement in all defence deals.
Bro don't argument for sake of argument. Selling to a non warring nation is not same as selling to extremist organization.

Russia did not extend same courtesy to India which you expect of India. Russia freely armed China and was closely forming military relation with Pakistan inspite of India protesting. Russia lifted arms embargo on Pakistan in 2014. Russia has been supplying it's latest lethal arms technology to China for ages( - some of which are now pointed to India or being supplied to China), when did it cater to India sensitivities?

Let's not get emotional. India is siding with Russia because of its defence needs but also India is more wary of western shenanigans. So for now India won't be selling directly to Ukraine in conflict with Russia. And will be more circumspect in selling to others. But again India has no power in controlling where it's sold weapons land up. Even US does not. But US uses it's might to punish offenders(sanctions etc). India has not reached there.
 

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What weapons Russia sold to Pakistan?? Tell me precisely.

You people actually want India to behave like Pakistan where they sell them in few dollars and get bankrupt in return.

I think people now days are not listening Jayshankar carefully. "Taking extra care about Russian interest"
No idea, but the whole chicom military equipment setup is of roosi origin, with all due respect, you sound like Bhadrakumar , Niazi Khan in roos on the eve of Ukraine invasion was a warning to India -the sooner you acknowledge it , i think the sooner you will come out of Bhadrakumar syndrome.

I genuinely feel you may have fallen for leli propaganda.
 
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JF-17 manufactured by China and they have aggreement before Pakistan come into picture.
No, JF-17 was designed and produced for Pakistan only.
China has been using RD-33 on other planes.
But they have to get Russia's consent on putting RD-33 on JF-17.
So far, every single JF-17 is using RD-33. The Chinese version (WS-13) is only put on F-31 for test flying now.
 

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But again India has no power in controlling where it's sold weapons land up. Even US does not. But US uses it's might to punish offenders(sanctions etc). India has not reached there.
Of course India has that power.
There is always a term in the contract that the weapon cannot be re-sold to any country that particularly opposed by the weapon exporter.
Every weapon exporting country has this term in their selling contract.
 

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Of course India has that power.
There is always a term in the contract that the weapon cannot be re-sold to any country that particularly opposed by the weapon exporter.
Every weapon exporting country has this term in their selling contract.
You mean India has power to Sanction Germany and US? huh? Smoked some ancient chinese opium did you in the morning?
 

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take into consideration the possibility that these photos are appearing on SM because NATO wallahs want russians to notice them.

ultimately it will boil down to one question in the future, if nato wallahs insist on highlighting this.

NATO durbari brigade : India has not supported ukraine when it was invaded, fascism dictatorship blah blah !!!
GoI : then how come our shells were being used by AFU ?

Russians : how come your shells are being fired at our forces?
GoI : NATO wallahs are rounding tripping our stock.
 

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this company should be censured and barred from future contracts for perpetuating this kind of fraud. Audits need to be taken to ensure strict compliance with Atmanirbharata principles.
They know they just don't give a shit no one is getting duped into buying these things
 

jai jaganath

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this company should be censured and barred from future contracts for perpetuating this kind of fraud. Audits need to be taken to ensure strict compliance with Atmanirbharata principles.
Company should be sued?
U really think mod or iaf was unaware and innocent as child
Importing is not wrong but balantly stating indigenous shows their confidence
It must be iaf officials and mod official who must be half accountable
Not for importing but stating imported item as indigenous in sm
 

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Company should be sued?
U really think mod or iaf was unaware and innocent as child
Importing is not wrong but balantly stating indigenous shows their confidence
It must be iaf officials and mod official who must be half accountable
Not for importing but stating imported item as indigenous in sm
Censured not sued. An example must be made.
 

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