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Firstly I can't guarantee my info is 100% correct . So keep your options open

I think successful validation of SFDR project is needed first.

It will only then form the basis of drdo meteor type bvraam.
Since the project has been green lit (last year), they probably have a good idea of what technology would go into it. If SFDR is not validated as yet, then it's quite possible that they'd ditch it for Mk2.
 

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Since the project has been green lit (last year), they probably have a good idea of what technology would go into it. If SFDR is not validated as yet, then it's quite possible that they'd ditch it for Mk2.
SFDR will take long time to validate on ground , its a very complex tech to master. Last year test focus was on testing the ground launch booster section.

Look up Advaidhya Tiwari post , he is correct
 

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There were discussion some time back that Astra Mk2 will be with dual pulsed motor to be a mass manufactured AAM whereas SFDR will be heavier weighing RAMJET for specialised long range attack to be manufactured in limited numbers.
Yes. That was the talk after Barak-8 propulsion was created by DRDO.
But as I said earlier, that was the time when DRDO also claimed that it had no idea what IAF wanted in Mk2 - as such all options were open.
If IAF's requirement (for range, weight etc) dictated the use of SFDR then they might go that route......although I'll say that dual-pulse expertise is more mature in DRDO than SFDR...
 

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Yes. That was the talk after Barak-8 propulsion was created by DRDO.
But as I said earlier, that was the time when DRDO also claimed that it had no idea what IAF wanted in Mk2 - as such all options were open.
If IAF's requirement (for range, weight etc) dictated the use of SFDR then they might go that route......although I'll say that dual-pulse expertise is more mature in DRDO than SFDR...
Regardless of whether IAF wants SFDR or not, it is wise to phase out Astra MK1 with dual pulsed motor Astra MK2. So, IAF can have combination of SFDR and Astra MK2 instead of Astra MK1 and SFDR. It is impractical to have only SFDR as sole AAM due to difficulty in mass manufacturing such complex missile. So, another AAM is definitely needed. The question is about whether to mass manufacture Single dual thrust motor Astra Mk1 OR dual pulsed motor Astra Mk2 as standard AAM for IAF in addition to SFDR.
 

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Regardless of whether IAF wants SFDR or not, it is wise to phase out Astra MK1 with dual pulsed motor Astra MK2. So, IAF can have combination of SFDR and Astra MK2 instead of Astra MK1 and SFDR. It is impractical to have only SFDR as sole AAM due to difficulty in mass manufacturing such complex missile. So, another AAM is definitely needed. The question is about whether to mass manufacture Single dual thrust motor Astra Mk1 OR dual pulsed motor Astra Mk2 as standard AAM for IAF in addition to SFDR.
Your suggestion is quite impractical!
Astra Mk2 (with any form of thrust) is still at the least 5-6 years away!!
Astra Mk1 will be manufactured in some numbers for Su-30MKI & Tejas.
Astra with dual pulsed motor or SFDR is obviously to extend the range. What use is a long range missile on Tejas, if Tejas does not possess a long range radar??? (radar size/range is limited by the space & power availability)
 

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Your suggestion is quite impractical!
Astra Mk2 (with any form of thrust) is still at the least 5-6 years away!!
Astra Mk1 will be manufactured in some numbers for Su-30MKI & Tejas.
Astra with dual pulsed motor or SFDR is obviously to extend the range. What use is a long range missile on Tejas, if Tejas does not possess a long range radar??? (radar size/range is limited by the space & power availability)
The aim is long term in nature and is meant to ensure optimal loadout. Astra Mk1 is for medium range. So, if another missile with similar weight can be made easily for longer range, it is better than Astra Mk1.

Tejas radar will not be range restricted forever. It is only for now that Tejas Mk1 is of lower capabilities. Eventually the aim is to get Tejas Mk2 with longer range radar. Since one has to prepare in advance, it is best that Astra Mk2 is prepared in advance to be ready to fit by 2024-5 when Tejas Mk2 will come online
 

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View attachment 31696

TEL without the missiles :doh:

I guess Nirbhay will have to wait for the new engines
Man!! That's such a looooong (&easily detectable) config!
Suggestion: Why couldn't the power module be fitted on a separate truck (with a cable that can be plugged into the TEL) such that the TEL truck profile is smaller??
 

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submarine missile launch tubes?
That's a reasonable guess!

The top pics are grainy; the bottom ones orientation makes me suspect! Seems like it's designed to be laid on the floor - not held upright!
 

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