DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[jai jaganath]

What a dream man
U never know how a Babu can surprise u with his 2000000iq brain
Just like in mk2

Let's say AMCA gets CCS approval this month's DAC then won't both of these prototypes come out together, since there aren't any clauses of engine and stuff anymore?

 

[pankaj nema]

 

[Chinmoy]

Searched the price of Artillery fuzes... it's $600-700 in Bumrica

So... we have placed an order for approx 9,00,000-10,00,000+ fuzes over a ten year period... too good.

I don't know why this news is not causing ripples... first that 6400x pinaka rocket order & now this.

Those who know... know.

 

[another_armchair]

9 killed in blast at explosives making unit in Nagpur

Nine people were killed in a blast at an explosives manufacturing factory in Maharashtra's Nagpur district on Sunday, the police said. The blast took place at 9 am in a cast booster unit of the Solar Industries in Bazaargaon area, a senior

news.rediff.com

Nine people were killed in a blast at an explosives manufacturing factory in Maharashtra's Nagpur district on Sunday, the police said.

The blast took place at 9 am in a cast booster unit of the Solar Industries in Bazaargaon area, a senior police official said.

Nine people were killed, he said.

The explosives used in coal mining blast were manufactured at the factory, as per sources.

The work of packaging explosives was on when the blast occurred, they said. -- PTI

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Unfortunate news. Hope this doesn't delay their supply commitments to forces.

 

[pankaj nema]

 

[johnj]

GOI can burn money - if it feels that technology and stream is needed to support its long term goals. case in point FBR and research in 3stage nuclear processing program in India. Space research etc etc..
Thats why you have DRDO as public enterprise. Now coming to synergizing research unit and manufacturing inc as one This is precisely what being implemented. Now DRDO once develops a product & is accepted by Armed forces - ropes in a manufacturing unit(pvt or public) with whom it works closely in productionizing product. "Productionizing" a Prototype or Lab product is another whole different ballgame which needs Research of its own. Thats why DRDO hand hold production. Once industry is confident they stream roll. Case in point ASTRA Microwave. They were given ToT by DRDO, handheld by DRDO in productionizing Radars in initial batches. now they are spinning their own products.

Spending money to develop FBR or Nuclear program not a waste of money or burring money, its a necessity for securing future of India's energy sector and there is no alternative, its about survival on the other hand Elon Must not a necessity for US. Just imagine India without nuclear power and US without EV
''synergizing research unit and manufacturing inc as one'' and one org for research and manufacturing two different thing, best ex is Dhruv and tejas, Dhruv is a successful program with 100s flying in 4 different versions on the other hand LCA is under final testing stage, same with most of drdo products, worst ex is nag & namica
In the case of astra - consider my earlier post

''it is clear that due to lack of Early industrialization Advantage & zero exp, our private need to build up both, before burning money, and experience is key and gov need to pay all funds, "
Some private/public sector using foreign or gov R&D to produce products and in future they follow HAL/CSL./MDL path, funding their own R&D using profits, but now they need order to recover the money used to set up manufacturing unit and tech acquisition, In one way or another GOVERMENT pays 95% of money required for everything except marketing/bribe, doesn't matter its private sector or gov or public

Counter Q- Why private sector need to do R&D when majority of Gov DPSU, OFB etc depend on foreign and DRDO labs for R&D

 

[vidhwanshak]

if I am not wrong, this is developed by 3BRD Chandigarh.

 

[Shuturmurg]

umm... subtracting fuel required for Take off and Landing.. what is the fuel fraction left for intercept? What is the maximum height achieved by it? What advantage does it have over QRSAM - other than reusability? How is it guided towards threat?

Its like a loitering cruise missile, dual use of surveillance plus area defense, however will be too expensive against cheaper shahed type drones. They are expecting cost to be around 300-500k USD, doesn't make sense to use this for cheap ass suicide drones.

 

[raju1982]

Let's say AMCA gets CCS approval this month's DAC then won't both of these prototypes come out together, since there aren't any clauses of engine and stuff anymore?

dream on.

First saw MCA when I was in class 5 on ProtonRiver forum. Saw AMCA brochure when I was in high school, i guess AI 2009 or 2011. Now i am 30 years old and have a kid still it is not even sanctioned by govt. I think before first squadron in IAF (2045) even my kid will graduate.

 

[raju1982]

Big amd good news. Our strategic missiles are on roght path, bcoz no one will sell it, so no lobby.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Master Chief]

Interesting perspective on the reason for Funds hold up for LCA mk2 before inking of F-414 TOT deal

 

[raju1982]

Interesting perspective on the reason for Funds hold up for LCA mk2 before inking of F-414 TOT deal

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True but that is called dependencies on one of the most undependable and backstabbing country. We need multiple solutions. JV for AMCA mist go to France.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[lcafanboy]

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

So all the negative propoganda regarding this system was hoax?

 

[mist_consecutive]

Someone explain me why this is a big deal?

Other SAM systems like Iron Dome, Patriot & MR-SAM has demonstrated such capability and other multiple SAM systems has claimed to have such capability.

 

[ezsasa]

Someone explain me why this is a big deal?

Other SAM systems like Iron Dome, Patriot & MR-SAM has demonstrated such capability and other multiple SAM systems has claimed to have such capability.

+1

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Interesting perspective on the reason for Funds hold up for LCA mk2 before inking of F-414 TOT deal

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Makese sense, you would have made Tejas Mk2 prototypes with the 8 GE F414 engines already delivered to India, but Serial Production would have become a major headache if the F414 deal fell through

 

[Azaad]

Makese sense, you would have made Tejas Mk2 prototypes with the 8 GE F414 engines already delivered to India, but Serial Production would have become a major headache if the F414 deal fell through

In any case that is precisely what we're doing now which makes the entire delay moot. I mean what has changed really as of today?

RN we're still awaiting F-404 deliveries which've been delayed by a few months whereas the same is being supplied to RoK to meet their needs in which case we aren't aware if the delay is deliberate as in a function of geopolitics or it's a genuine delay which will be rectified soon.

I'm not very sanguine about further developments in the Mk-2 case as long as L'affaire Pannun persists. It may be we would have to wait for the results of the US Presidential elections next year, hoping the incumbent doesn't return to power & the incoming aspirant is more accommodative of our position.

Else we'd have to reach a modus vivendi which'd take time with this administration assuming it is possible which I'm not optimistic about.

I'm afraid we haven't heard the last of the Mk-2 saga as of now which translates to mean there's a good chance it'd not make first flight by 2027 & may well be further delayed. Unfortunately this'd have a fallout on successive programs like AMCA & TEDBF too.