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[Blademaster]

Problem was the extremely high unit cost of the C-17 Globemaster, the deal for 10 C-17 was worth $4.1 billion back in the day, which roughly equates to $410 million per plane.
No way anyone would have agreed to blow up north of $12 billion on transport aircraft.

Half of that price was the infrastructure for the C-17s. If they had ordered 20 more C-17s, that unit price would have been a lot less than $410 million per plane more like around $270-300 million per plane.

 

[Fatalis]

Problem was the extremely high unit cost of the C-17 Globemaster, the deal for 10 C-17 was worth $4.1 billion back in the day, which roughly equates to $410 million per plane.
No way anyone would have agreed to blow up north of $12 billion on transport aircraft.

Also, I think we are the second largest operator of C-17 after the US which itself operates around 220.

Down the road in future some solution will definitely be figured out for complementing C-17 and replacing the Il-76.

The oldest Il-76 is around 45 years old and IAF has decided to replace them by the end of this decade.

 

[flanker99]

One question:

If the Indian Navy selects 26 Rafale-M as the interim solution and in next 8-10 years they order a 100 TEDBF, will IN transfer the Rafale to the IAF? Also what will then happen to Mig-29K?

Mig29k's maybe retired or given to IAF to address falling squadron strength ..given 1st tedbf enters service by 2035 migs will stay till atleast late 2030's

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

Also, I think we are the second largest operator of C-17 after the US which itself operates around 220.

Down the road in future some solution will definitely be figured out for complementing C-17 and replacing the Il-76.

The oldest Il-76 is around 45 years old and IAF has decided to replace them by the end of this decade.

We can purchase second hand c17 though, until replacement is found

 

[johnj]

Seems like 114 MRCA will get divided between 50 LCA Mk1A and 50-60 Rafales G2G deals. Acceptable and honestly will be the best decision as of now.

No. IAF continue to ask/demand 150 EU/UK mrfa, nothing going to change that. 100 m2k-> 150 rafale/eft/jas39 -> 6th gen
LCA s, amca etc help to replace/reduce russian jets.
Russia is not USSR.

 

[blackleaf]

BEL poster on Akash NG.

BEL is the production partner for the MFR, active seeker,launchers , various CC vehicle and is the overall integrator of the end product.

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Some imp points.

1.This settles the debate on Akash NG range once and for all. The range is ONLY 30 km and not 50 or 70 km as we had speculated earlier. Maybe the range is a bit higher at 40ish km because DRDO and BEL always understates true ranges.

2. Akash NG is meant to be a replacement for the cumbersome Akash system. Its a compact system with twice the no of missiles per MLV.

3. There is ONLY one radar, the MFR or Mukti Function radar Unlike CAR and FLR for Akash. This radar has a 120 km detection range for 2sqm targets and 80 km engagement range. It provides both surveillance and fire control plus mid course guidance for the missile. Its based on a trailer which indicates its meant for the IAF.

4. Each squadron or rather HUB can have a maximum of 5 Firing units. Each Firing unit has a MFR and a CCU or command and control unit. These two communicate with each other through optical fibre and short range communication radio.

5. Each Firing unit can have a max of 4 Missile launch vehicles. Each missile launch vehicle has 6 Akash NG missiles.

So each Firing unit can have a max of 24 missiles ready to launch. And each hub with 5 FU can have a max of 120 ready to fire missiles. This will take care of saturation strikes .

6. Akash NG missile has an engagement envelope of 3km to 30 km in range and 30 m to 14 km in altitude. 10 targets can be engaged simultaneously in 360 degree azimuth by each MFR.

I was under the impression that the Akash NG used a s similar rocket motor to the one developed for our barak -8. Why is the range so low?

 

[johnj]

We are unlikely to go for more Russian equipment in near future. Not because we are now sucking up to America, but because Russians are now actively using Chinese parts & electronics due to sanctions by the west.
Also, Russian equipment has a pretty poor availability and a plethora of maintenance issues.

I think we will shift to C-130J (more orders) as our main transport fleet along with C-295 until we make MTA.

C 130j is unlikely due to cost and it can't replace il76/c17 class jets and goi order more c295.

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

C 130j is unlikely due to cost and it can't replace il76/c17 class jets and goi order more c295.

C295 is not even close a400m from same company is in similar class

 

[blackleaf]

No. IAF continue to ask/demand 150 EU/UK mrfa, nothing going to change that. 100 m2k-> 150 rafale/eft/jas39 -> 6th gen
LCA s, amca etc help to replace/reduce russian jets.
Russia is not USSR.

The MRCA contest makes no sense if we are also going to be ordering Rafale for the navy and given we already have 36 Rafale. Why can't they negotiate a gov to gov deal with local manufacturing for a joint airforce/ navy order.

 

[Blademaster]

We can purchase second hand c17 though, until replacement is found

No one is willing to let go of their C-17 planes. It is that good.

 

[Vamsi]

Guys, why there are no updates from DDR, anyone know why??

 

[Vamsi]

 

[Vamsi]

 

[Corvus Splendens]

No one is willing to let go of their C-17 planes. It is that good.

If anyone is selling, US will snatch em up quick because they want parts.

 

[Vamsi]

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

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So there will be cats hale drone too

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Why don't forces fund projects using their unused budgets, better than letting it go back?

 

[Vamsi]

ADA may go for TEDBF's CCS approval next year

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

ADA may go for TEDBF's CCS approval next year

Can u as if there is a chance for orca? Or if the cone has really changed

 

[Vamsi]

no high res ?
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where did you get these ??