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binayak95

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Holy shit, bhaiya 98 percent kill probability with a single launch against a mach3 threat, yeah not gonna believe it bruh, that's another wonderwaffe i am hearing, poor yahoodis in Israel will be bamboozeled after hearing it themselves.
On a serious note, the real tested capability of Barak8 is probably classified and seriously the test capability and real capability of a weapons system have contrasted various times in real conflicts so it's better that we don't go on high horses
That's why you fire 2 per Target.
 

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It's a manufacturing TOT, I am 100% sure that raw material will directly come from USA, but its a good start. Lets wait for more details whether hot section will also be manufactured in India of like AL31 engine we will just import and assemble it.
Nope you are wrong .

HAL has been making AL-31FP from raw material stage since 2016.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...-50th-al31fp-engine-to-iaf/article9920705.ece

The 50th such engine was handed over in Oct,2017. And now we are in 2022.

The 50th AL31FP engine manufactured from the raw material stage by the Sukhoi Engine Division of HAL (Koraput) has been handed over to the IAF in Delhi as part of the 70th year celebrations of the India Russia diplomatic relationship.

“The AL31FP engine powers the Su30 MKI and has been manufactured from the raw material stage by HAL. All the components, including heavy forgings, are manufactured at HAL,” said T Suvarna Raju, CMD.

Unlike what some posters would like to say about the crappy quality fo Russian platforms and stuff and Russia always short changing us when it comes to tech transfer, well that's not always the case. Yes, they charge us an arm and a leg for some of the stuff and there's always some delays in the deliveries barring the recent purchases, but they are dependable where it actually matters.
 

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View attachment 178309

With so many new designs and possible contenders, is something new cooking?

Is IA looking for new Wheeled APC that too in large numbers and moving away from WhAP?
I doubt because only the TATA DRDO WhaP is the only IDDM product and has passed all the extensively rigorous trials conducted by the armed forces , others are just licensed copies of foreign products....
 

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All forgings and castings used in the engines including those of the hot section are made ground up by HAL.

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The HP turbine blades are made using investment casting with ceramic moulds.

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Don't think GR will allow us to make the HPC and HPT rotors and blades here in country. But then let's see.
 

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Aegis is for air defence & capable of BMD. I'm not talking about ESSM but SM2/ER, & SM 6. SSM-6 Missile Used To Strike Frigate
SM2, SM6 as far as I know are ballistic missile interceptors(?) as their primary role and generally cruise missles are not even mentioned when describing their capabilities. How can it go against a CM with same probability? Hitting a frigate under tests is not the same as intercepting a real supersonic CM or pack of them....Aegis is primarily BMD
 

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Nope you are wrong .


Unlike what some posters would like to say about the crappy quality fo Russian platforms and stuff and Russia always short changing us when it comes to tech transfer, well that's not always the case. Yes, they charge us an arm and a leg for some of the stuff and there's always some delays in the deliveries barring the recent purchases, but they are dependable where it actually matters.
Quite a few pimps for western wunderwaffe's here dissing everything else.....they ignore the data that India always came ahead against Pakistan sporting supposedly better US equipment and recently against f-16.
 

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Holy shit, bhaiya 98 percent kill probability with a single launch against a mach3 threat, yeah not gonna believe it bruh, that's another wonderwaffe i am hearing, poor yahoodis in Israel will be bamboozeled after hearing it themselves.
On a serious note, the real tested capability of Barak8 is probably classified and seriously the test capability and real capability of a weapons system have contrasted various times in real conflicts so it's better that we don't go on high horses
Hamas crude rockets get through Israels supposed wunderwagfes all the time....more recently they don't even venture out into Syrian airspace and launch from Lebanon.....98% my ass. Israels myth is based on two things, they get tech handed to them on silver plate and then their deals with US and Russia to let them free hand.....same with 2006 hezbollah thrashing their invincible merkavas with 5k korenets and konkur knockoffs.....they make good stuff but the diference isn't day and night. Supersonic missiles have win ration better than AD systems especially cruise missiles in terminal stage
 

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Toh maine mana kiya kya? NATO did not possess supersonic CMs and still don't have prolific use because they prefer long ranges and lower signature of subsonic CMs. It's always a compromise.
Point is those that do sport them know a thing or two about how to defeat AD, Soviets invested in AD and missiles more than anyone and their major strategy was to kill carrier groups. So your talk about they can't be tracked is just pure nonsense and "truth" spread by repeating few million times. CM's of all kind were considered the major threat to carriers back then and even now

PS: I will not add further comments on this as this is DRDO specific thread and its already a bit OT now
 
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SM2, SM6 as far as I know are ballistic missile interceptors(?) as their primary role and generally cruise missles are not even mentioned when describing their capabilities. How can it go against a CM with same probability? Hitting a frigate under tests is not the same as intercepting a real supersonic CM or pack of them....Aegis is primarily BMD
Yes, Aegis is primarily BMD with US global surveillance support and no systems similar to Aegis Now upgraded into total air defence s/m, with ASat capability.
In the case of SM6.
SM-6 Missile & Raytheon SM-6s Missiles intercept targets in 'engage on remote' tests
SM 6 capable of intercepting hypersonic missile, not hypersonic cruise, but hypersonic ballistic missile, and primary interceptor against AShBM. SMs can't intercept sea skimming brahmos without AEW. RAM can handle upto mach3, and essm is normally used. SM6 can intercept brahmos during high altitude flight.
Also US, NATO uses mach 2.5~4+ targets & subsonic targets.
DRDO uses subsonic targets. Supersonic targets ??
 

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Yes, Aegis is primarily BMD with US global surveillance support and no systems similar to Aegis Now upgraded into total air defence s/m, with ASat capability.
In the case of SM6.
SM-6 Missile & Raytheon SM-6s Missiles intercept targets in 'engage on remote' tests
SM 6 capable of intercepting hypersonic missile, not hypersonic cruise, but hypersonic ballistic missile, and primary interceptor against AShBM. SMs can't intercept sea skimming brahmos without AEW. RAM can handle upto mach3, and essm is normally used. SM6 can intercept brahmos during high altitude flight.
Also US, NATO uses mach 2.5~4+ targets & subsonic targets.
DRDO uses subsonic targets. Supersonic targets ??
This is more reasonable as every system in AD is based on certain characteristics of the primary threat it is designed to defeat and therefore has varying probabilities against different types of threats. US ESSM varies from 5% to 90% success depending on when its tracked and how many and so on......also you do not need supersonic targets to test your abilities as its fairly easy to characterize the target. Simulations are good enough and validated with real world tests without warheads. SM6 is exo atomospheric interception and Avangaaard and other marv's in theory are immune to this approach. All ICBMS travel at hypersonic speeds when they reenter
 

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This is more reasonable as every system in AD is based on certain characteristics of the primary threat it is designed to defeat and therefore has varying probabilities against different types of threats. US ESSM varies from 5% to 90% success depending on when its tracked and how many and so on......also you do not need supersonic targets to test your abilities as its fairly easy to characterize the target. Simulations are good enough and validated with real world tests without warheads. SM6 is exo atomospheric interception and Avangaaard and other marv's in theory are immune to this approach. All ICBMS travel at hypersonic speeds when they reenter
SM 6 is endo-atmospheric missile basically and already shown its capability against ICBM. Exco-atmospheric missile can handle HGV & MaRV/MIRV ICBMS. All ICBMS travel at mach 20~25, ie 3x to 4x hypersonic, & without RV, warhead burns up during reenter. US uses target to increase reality, & simulations are not good enough and to validated with real world tests without warheads, that why we also use real targets. Funny thing is these real tests also not give exact info. If you believe these simulations USN CBG invulnerable against all AShM except hypersonic cruise missile.
 

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SM 6 is endo-atmospheric missile basically and already shown its capability against ICBM. Exco-atmospheric missile can handle HGV & MaRV/MIRV ICBMS. All ICBMS travel at mach 20~25, ie 3x to 4x hypersonic, & without RV, warhead burns up during reenter. US uses target to increase reality, & simulations are not good enough and to validated with real world tests without warheads, that why we also use real targets. Funny thing is these real tests also not give exact info. If you believe these simulations USN CBG invulnerable against all AShM except hypersonic cruise missile.
You are correct, SM3 is exo not SM6. Already shown how? Its a test done by them under assumed conditions and that is how anything is usually tested and refined and remedied when tested under real battle conditions. This is true from small arms to nuclear bombs....simulations are good to check algorithms and missiles are based on physical principles from their launch all the way to terminal impact and can be simulated effectively especially with super computers. There are more complex areas where things are modeled and simulated to great accuracy matching real world results....key is having data sets and the reason why tests are usually observed to compile some data regarding opponents capabilities. SM3 can't necessarily intercept icbms that are maneuverable as they are full of decoys and even a few degrees change in inclination will result in 1000s of miles of deviation....as always, its the game of probabilities.

I am not dissing Aegis as its a great concept and system and US invested a lot into it with about 60 destroyers and then GBMD aegis too.....but its getting challenged now with hypersonic and quasi ballistic missiles. They have few programs to address threats but none really proven yet.
 
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