DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Aditya Ballal]

Sarkaari vs private. Our PSU's really suck at marketing.

Almost none of our Private firms have a great website, most have mediocre one’s, awfully bad one’s with absolutely no relevant information regarding their products and most times absolutely nothing. There are very few who have a decent and functioning website.
A good number of them don’t even have decent SM pages at all. They only wake up during expos and festivals.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

SSS Defence wins a contract to supply 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition (20,00,000 rounds) to the Nepalese Army.

 

[flanker99]

I heard that hvt sir said there is no delay in mk-2 project
Is he saying right

There is a whopping 1 year delay confirmed by PD of mk2 due to late release of fund and greater indiginization rqrmnt ...but hal/ada still claim they can complete all flight testing etc in timeline (2028) given by AF.

 

[ShukantC]

So according to Alpha Defense the new DRDO MALE/HALE UAV are actually license produce IAI Eitan, Can anybody confirm???

Honestly I don't think its the worst option, if they take the airframe of the Eitan and include all the sensors developed for the Rustom UAV. That way both the systems will have commonality and thereby easier logistics.
This way our immediate requirement for a MALE/HALE UAV with an armed version can be met at a much faster pace. While at the same time ADE and DRDO work on a HALE turbofan powered UAV on the lines of the General Atomics Avenger.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

So according to Alpha Defense the new DRDO MALE/HALE UAV are actually license produce IAI Eitan, Can anybody confirm???

Honestly I don't think its the worst option, if they take the airframe of the Eitan and include all the sensors developed for the Rustom UAV. That way both the systems will have commonality and thereby easier logistics.
This way our immediate requirement for a MALE/HALE UAV with an armed version can be met at a much faster pace. While at the same time ADE and DRDO work on a HALE turbofan powered UAV on the lines of the General Atomics Avenger.


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Ok that uav looks sexy af

 

[arnabmit]

Indonesia has them covered

 

[omaebakabaka]

Almost none of our Private firms have a great website, most have mediocre one’s, awfully bad one’s with absolutely no relevant information regarding their products and most times absolutely nothing. There are very few who have a decent and functioning website.
A good number of them don’t even have decent SM pages at all. They only wake up during expos and festivals.

These sort of companies do not do business via websites and generally do not make it a point to maintian them. Look at Japanese companies, same way....barely usable. I actually like it that way sometimes, b2c is not the priority. No one buys high ticket items via shopping cart or even distribute info through websites. Its old school with brokers and so on which we know already.

 

[arnabmit]

CIWS type systems are too bulky and sends massive amount of ammo to hit one target, and then there is line of sight restriction in a gun(even radar RF travels in a straight line) and the parabolic curve of the ammo round.

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missiles on the other hand, can operate beyond line of sight. if we add loitering munitions to the mix, even more flexibility in the hands of the CO.

Gun C-RAM are the only viable defence against Paki Rangers indiscriminately targeting Indian border villages.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Gun C-RAM are the only viable defence against Paki Rangers indiscriminately targeting Indian border villages.

Wouldn't L&T sudarshan with programmable ammo be good provided that targeting radar is able to provide fire control against CRAM threats.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Wouldn't L&T sudarshan with programmable ammo be good provided that targeting radar is able to provide fire control against CRAM threats.

Defensive strategy is for losers, AD at any level should be to protect assets that are required to fight war or protect a vital installation like dams, critical bridges and other nodes. Protecting villages and people should not be priority and frankly if they indiscriminately target a village on our side especially kashmir then we should target 4 on their side. This is the only deterrent that may work to some degree....

 

[arnabmit]

Wouldn't L&T sudarshan with programmable ammo be good provided that targeting radar is able to provide fire control against CRAM threats.

If it can, that's awesome. It needs to demonstrate its C-RAM capability. So far it has only demonstrated AD role AFAIK.

 

[arnabmit]

HAIN?

Any ammunition above 40mm needs to take into account your ready load. You cannot carry more than a few score ammo AT best - and given how every turret is not unmanned, best of luck keeping your gun ready for use.

And just chuck Russia out the window - junk fantasy dreams built by idiots high on vodka.
The CV90 series of ICVs have many options, ranging from 20mm to 105mm light tank, but the most prevalent is 35mm - which is chain fed by a linkless system (dual feed), has smart fusing and APDS available and is quite decent.

All 40mm guns are still hand fed in stripper clips of 5 rounds (or is it 4) - but given just how fast you can load stripper clips, its not too big a hassle.

Anything above 40mm and you have problems with feeding the gun (and RELOADING the entire belt feed once youre done - not easy at all)

The Stryker Dragoon is 30mm, so is the Boxer. Which ICV has 50mm ?

Bradley Replacement uses 50mm

T-15 Armata heavy IFV will now use 57mm Au-220m Kinzhal turret.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

How i love scroll even makes fking solar panels look bad

In India, desolate solar parks reveal the dark side of renewable energy

The sector isn’t creating many jobs, apart from those at construction stage.

scroll.in

 

[arnabmit]

Nothing new. Proximity Fuzing 40mm Bofors have been a thing since WWII (really) and you are right about a single barrel not being enough. In a saturation attack that barrel will overheat and melt.

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This is from WWII. Bofors L60 USN mount.
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and this is the British QF 2 pounder 40mm in an EIGHT gun mount.

Remember even these were not enough. USN cruisers and destroyers would have many quad and double 40mm mounts, all around the ship, supported by Oerlikon 20mm guns in similar numbers. EVEN then kamakaze attacks got through and knocked out capital ships. CAPITAL ships, defended by many other ships, and long range DP 5inch guns.


So, yeah - one measly 40mm gun aided by modern FCR aint gonna cut it.

I dont know why know one has brough back these behemoths - with modern electronics they will be terror on the battlefield.

Remembered this old photo

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Remembered this old photo

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You should remember this

 

[arnabmit]

After deep web and dark web, I find reddit to be the darkest place on web.

Reddit is the OG dark web, before dark web became dark web.

 

[The Shrike]

So according to Alpha Defense the new DRDO MALE/HALE UAV are actually license produce IAI Eitan, Can anybody confirm???

Honestly I don't think its the worst option, if they take the airframe of the Eitan and include all the sensors developed for the Rustom UAV. That way both the systems will have commonality and thereby easier logistics.
This way our immediate requirement for a MALE/HALE UAV with an armed version can be met at a much faster pace. While at the same time ADE and DRDO work on a HALE turbofan powered UAV on the lines of the General Atomics Avenger.


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That model was displayed in the HAL section, and not DRDO correct? They had signed a deal with IAI to push screwdrivergiri of drones in India. IMO the DRDO is probably on its own track.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

That model was displayed in the HAL section, and not DRDO correct? They had signed a deal with IAI to push screwdrivergiri of drones in India. IMO the DRDO is probably on its own track.

Yes on hal section with no info drdo is just doing its own thing I guess

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Wouldn't L&T sudarshan with programmable ammo be good provided that targeting radar is able to provide fire control against CRAM threats.

Not sure if firing speed is fast enough for things like mortars, or cost effective enough. Mortars are cheap af, IDK what the cost ratio between 8 programmable rounds to one mortar is (assuming 2 bursts to shoot it down) but I think it wont be in our favour. CRAM seems better.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

So according to Alpha Defense the new DRDO MALE/HALE UAV are actually license produce IAI Eitan, Can anybody confirm???

Honestly I don't think its the worst option, if they take the airframe of the Eitan and include all the sensors developed for the Rustom UAV. That way both the systems will have commonality and thereby easier logistics.
This way our immediate requirement for a MALE/HALE UAV with an armed version can be met at a much faster pace. While at the same time ADE and DRDO work on a HALE turbofan powered UAV on the lines of the General Atomics Avenger.


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Uhhh... Thats not eitan :/

This is eitan, better known as Heron TP