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[Love Charger]

I also dont remember the exact name - got them from this book - The Tale of the Horse - by Yashwashini Chandra. Mughals used to get thoroughbreds and european horse breeds in addition to Arabian horses, all the way from the caucasus and transoxania.

Keke i am really sorry sir , I forgot throughbred is itself a mix between native English horses and a arabian horse.

 

[SavageKing456]

 

[ShukantC]

This tweet really scares me, 5 * type 052D under construction at the same time at the Dalian Shipyard

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

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Does A219 is big enough to host a idli radar, maybe after netra mk2 rolls out, we can always buy some more 2nd hand planes with good life left in them. I believe the point of contention for idli radar was that A330 was just so expensive.
Why don't we just do a combine deal for A330 MRTT and A330 for AWACS, just stop with this tender bullsh*t and do a GtoG deal. I am quite sure the order has the potential to reach 20.

Although the Chinese have succeeded in mounting a 360° radar on top of an Antonov An-12, I am really skeptical whether the propeller driven aircraft generates enough power to support the 360° radome.
Sane goes for A319/A320 series of aircraft, its doubtful as to whether they generate enough power to support a power hungry 360° radome.
A321 XLR might be a good pick since its sufficiently large but I am doubtful as to whether there will be enough examples in the used market since its a pretty new aircraft.
We should either go for used Airbus A330 or Boeing 767 in the market for Netra Mk3.
Another option would be to use AI Boeing 777 which will retired after Airbus A350 joins their fleet, it would give our AWACS unmatched range and endurance.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

This tweet really scares me, 5 * type 052D under construction at the same time at the Dalian Shipyard

Even MDL has the capability or for that matter any other shipyard in the US builds 4-5 ships at once.
Nothing fancy about it

 

[binayak95]

Even MDL has the capability or for that matter any other shipyard in the US builds 4-5 ships at once.
Nothing fancy about it

Plus I wonder where the fuck do chinks find enough crews to man them properly.

In short, they dont
In long, they conscript merchant marine crews with as little as 3 years of experience to helm frigates and destroyers. huge man power crisis in the PLAN. Which is why you will never see PLAN ships operating alone. They simply lack faith in their crews and leadership to get anywhere without fucking shit up.

 

[Srinie]

Even MDL has the capability or for that matter any other shipyard in the US builds 4-5 ships at once.
Nothing fancy about it

So MDL has revised the construction timelines for the four Vishakhapatnam Class destroyers from the initial 72 months per ship to 106 months, 100 months, 92 months, and 79 months, respectively. Efficiency at its best!

 

[Marliii]

So MDL has revised the construction timelines for the four Vishakhapatnam Class destroyers from the initial 72 months per ship to 106 months, 100 months, 92 months, and 79 months, respectively. Efficiency at its best!

9 years for a DDG ? MDL should commit seppuku

 

[Srinie]

Even MDL has the capability or for that matter any other shipyard in the US builds 4-5 ships at once.
Nothing fancy about it

We can make fun of chinks but their ability to produce ships like noodles is unmatched . Even America cannot do that at present . Less said the better about our ship yards . Except OPV from L&T no ship project from any ship yard has been on time within budget

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

So MDL has revised the construction timelines for the four Vishakhapatnam Class destroyers from the initial 72 months per ship to 106 months, 100 months, 92 months, and 79 months, respectively. Efficiency at its best!

Agreed, but had the initial timeframe of 72 months taken into consideration the time to deliver the weapons systems and sensors which are imported from abroad?
Also, the long lead items required for such a ship are ordered in batches at various stages of construction rather than at once.
From what I know, Vizag class did not utilize modular construction, which changed with P17A frigates.
Construction and rollout speed of P17A is already miles ahead of the Vizag class DDG.

 

[binayak95]

Agreed, but had the initial timeframe of 72 months taken into consideration the time to deliver the weapons systems and sensors which are imported from abroad?
Also, the long lead items required for such a ship are ordered in batches at various stages of construction rather than at once.
From what I know, Vizag class did not utilize modular construction, which changed with P17A frigates.
Construction and rollout speed of P17A is already miles ahead of the Vizag class DDG.

And covid happened.

 

[Akula]

We can make fun of chinks but their ability to produce ships like noodles is unmatched . Even America cannot do that at present . Less said the better about our ship yards . Except OPV from L&T no ship project from any ship yard has been on time within budget

Because they are producing all the systems used on a ship in China. Even if our ships have 70-80% indigenous content, major systems are still imported.

 

[flanker99]

Agreed, but had the initial timeframe of 72 months taken into consideration the time to deliver the weapons systems and sensors which are imported from abroad?
Also, the long lead items required for such a ship are ordered in batches at various stages of construction rather than at once.
From what I know, Vizag class did not utilize modular construction, which changed with P17A frigates.
Construction and rollout speed of P17A is already miles ahead of the Vizag class DDG.

Atleast the last ship of the class did use modular construction also in p17a despite reduced time the 1st ship still isn't complete and this is 5th year

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Atleast the last ship of the class did use modular construction also in p17a despite reduced time the 1st ship still isn't complete and this is 5th year

Well you can thank COVID for that.

 

[flanker99]

Well you can thank COVID for that.

Not everything should be blamed on covid the whole world suffered from it countries like japan,sk,china are launching ships like there no tomorrow...our shipbuilding industry is just not upto par

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Not everything should be blamed on covid the whole world suffered from it countries like japan,sk,china are launching ships like there no tomorrow...our shipbuilding industry is just not upto par

Agreed, but Mumbai was probably the worst hit city during the COVID wave.
There is simply no way that you can ensure these many workers coming to the shipyard everyday and ensuring that no one catches COVID, also we have quite a lot of imported systems which were delayed by the respective vendors, the main being MFSTAR.
Unless we find a way to make all the major subsystems Indian, delays are inevitable.

 

[binayak95]

Agreed, but Mumbai was probably the worst hit city during the COVID wave.
There is simply no way that you can ensure these many workers coming to the shipyard everyday and ensuring that no one catches COVID, also we have quite a lot of imported systems which were delayed by the respective vendors, the main being MFSTAR.
Unless we find a way to make all the major subsystems Indian, delays are inevitable.

I was in mumbai in the naval dockyard during the second half of 2021. Entire ships' insides had rotten away at pier because workers up and left for home for 2 full years.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Even MDL has the capability or for that matter any other shipyard in the US builds 4-5 ships at once.
Nothing fancy about it

BHai, we can't even commission one....credit is due where it is due. They are 20T economy with an ambition and everyone in the country follows a straight line with the CCP as arrow head. Good things for them will happen just like the bad things.....we are a mess and change is at the rate of couple of decades and forces are hard to model in India, just nothing converges anymore unfortunately. Modiji has given up all hardlines after rolling back farmers, NRC and so on.....

 

[karn]

A question .. Is there a competition between TATA QR and Kalyani m4 ? The 10 + 2 man 10 firing port one ?

 

[dfcool]

What happens to old aircrafts in india. US has Tucson, Arizona and it was good.