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[Javelin_Sam]

Exactly. This is what Naval Design Bureau does.

Printing roles and responsibilities on a poster is easy. Its what they do on ground that matters. Comparing Army design bureau to Directorate of Naval Design is an abomination to DND. The kind of design expertise DND has mastered over the last 2 decades are impressive. Now they have set their target on indigenous marine AIP under make 1 category for their ships. A very important strategic decision.

 

[flanker99]

Brahmos-NG is still to heavy for a lot of platforms like Tejas, rotary winged aircraft like Dhruv, UCAVs, Mig-29K and our corvettes.
NASM-SR and NASM will be used to fulfill this role.

When you are in a war engaging enemy ships or HVT cost is never the issue. Only results matter and you want to win.

Huh brahmos ng can be carried by all fixed wing platforms in our inventory...mr cannot be carried by rotary wing only SR will be.
Foolish argument if u think cost doesn't matter in war every country has finite amount of resources u will not be using expensive and complex missile like brahmos to take out low value targets...just look at russo ukraine war and see which type of missile is doing the heavy lifting

 

[vishnugupt]

Printing roles and responsibilities on a poster is easy. Its what they do on ground that matters. Comparing Army design bureau to Directorate of Naval Design is an abomination to DND. The kind of design expertise DND has mastered over the last 2 decades are impressive. Now they have set their target on indigenous marine AIP under make 1 category for their ships. A very important strategic decision.

Now on, for Army everything will be designed by ADB and baki ke sab matar chhilenge.

Actually identifying new requirements, giving PSQR, design review and get out of cozy office and check what is going on around is the principal job of so called ADB.

Recently a Colonel write a article and he explained how tirednessly Army developed Arjun tank but DRDO failed it. So basically Arjun has been developed by ADB not by DRDO (According to him )..... Nobody is going to swallow it but Army say so.

 

[Chinmoy]

Printing roles and responsibilities on a poster is easy. Its what they do on ground that matters. Comparing Army design bureau to Directorate of Naval Design is an abomination to DND. The kind of design expertise DND has mastered over the last 2 decades are impressive. Now they have set their target on indigenous marine AIP under make 1 category for their ships. A very important strategic decision.

Exactly. It takes time to get mature. We can't even compare ADB with DND. DND has two main sub-branch. ADB would have dozens.
What matters most is that atleast there is an organization and system in place to carry forward. But laughing it off as a joke is only showing off the level of immaturity.

 

[vishnugupt]

Vishnugupt Saab..... Mere crying over with some illogical talking is not going to solve the issue.

What is technological contribution of Naval design bureau? We would sing Iliad and Odyssey on how they do promote indigenization. But when 5 years back the same concept has been implemented by IA, we would laugh about it.

Now when you don't even know the difference in between a detail design review and designing, what could anyone do?
Tell me one thing, when NDB was involved in IAC-1 design from day 1, why its design and subcomponents has undergone repeated change in detail design review? Same you could see for all ships involved.

There is saying "नाम दरोगा रख दो और तीन के तेरह कर दो"

You can claim whatever suits you but capabilities and results are before us and it's Zero.

 

[Chinmoy]

There is saying "नाम दरोगा रख दो और तीन के तेरह कर दो"

You can claim whatever suits you but capabilities and results are before us and it's Zero.

Yeah... I could see that ZERO in your comments.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Foolish argument if u think cost doesn't matter in war every country has finite amount of resources u will not be using expensive and complex missile like brahmos to take out low value targets...just look at russo ukraine war and see which type of missile is doing the heavy lifting

No country prioritizes cost of a weapon system to it assets and life of its solders. Not atleast India.
Not all things in life come down to money.
How many weapon systems you wish to fit on a naval platform

1. Brahmos
2. MR-SAM/LR-SAM
3. VL-SRSAM (planned replacing Barak-1)
4. ITCM (planned)
5. and now NASM (just to save cost)

The only reason why naval platform will carry NASM is if their is size/weight limitation or if due to some-reason Brahmos is unable to successfully engage target.

IN is not going on a CM firing spree like USN which fired Tomahawk CM on Al-Qaida/Taliban tents that cost might be a factor.

Still Americans preferred to fire their CM instead of putting their troops in harm's way.

 

[flanker99]

No country prioritizes cost of a weapon system to it assets and life of its solders. Not atleast India.
Not all things in life come down to money.

Thats not true to say the least...look at most of our weapons,L1 bidding process etc...in a fight between budget and requirements budget always wins everyday everywhere

 

[patriots]

 

[patriots]

Importantly tested from high altitude ranges

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Thats not true to say the least...look at most of our weapons,L1 bidding process etc...in a fight between budget and requirements budget always wins everyday everywhere

You are confusing between 2 different disjoint systems.
Once you have a weapon system in your hand you will try to use it to safe-guard your interest and your people.
When you are purchasing new weapon systems you try to save as much as money as possible but once you have paid for a weapons system you don't hesitate to use it if it saves your people.
Dead or wounded solider is more expensive than using costliest weapon system.

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

I just want to see an armed drone being used for counter infiltration op. Safe and cost effective. Waiting for the day for the Indian military to step into the 21st century.

 

[flanker99]

You are confusing between 2 different disjoint systems.
Once you have a weapon system in your hand you will try to use it to safe-guard your interest and your people.
When you are purchasing new weapon systems you try to save as much as money as possible but once you have paid for a weapons system you don't hesitate to use it if it saves your people.
Dead or wounded solider is more expensive than using costliest weapon system.

No offense but ur the confused one here...u said that cost for weapon matters less than the lives of people i just showed thats not true in reality.
Now going back to original topic brahmos will be used for HVT ,highly defended and hard to reach targets while most of the other targets will need a cheap subsonic missile that can be produced and used in large numbers without breaking the bank..it is not that hard to understand.
Now if u still think solution to every problem is throwing a brahmos at it then i have nothing to say

 

[Chinmoy]

I just want to see an armed drone being used for counter infiltration op. Safe and cost effective. Waiting for the day for the Indian military to step into the 21st century.

For that GoI would have to rewrite the rule book of confrontation.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Then why so called world largest and 4th powerful army is not inducting it...!!!!!!

 

[patriots]

Then why so called world largest and 4th powerful army is not inducting it...!!!!!!

Bhai will induct....

And will be inducted in 1000s....
As we have 70+ rudra..
And will have 100+ lch

 

[johnj]

Then why so called world largest and 4th powerful army is not inducting it...!!!!!!

Very soon, maybe this year or next [next] , lsp. Once IA complete user trials, infra more order.

 

[India Super Power]

Very soon, maybe this year or next [next] , lsp. Once IA complete user trials, infra more order.

Bro hearing this 'very soon' phrase many times
God bless

 

[vishnugupt]

Then why so called world largest and 4th powerful army is not inducting it...!!!!!!

IA is even giving more orders for vintage ATGMs because these missiles offer good kickback deals.

Now days UN armed forces are busy in looking loop holes in Indigenous lists and import ban lists.

Government is forcing them otherwise they will not order them till their last breath.

I don't believe in their endless lies until I see it.

 

[johnj]

Bro hearing this 'very soon' phrase many times
God bless

It doesn't matter becz IA having rudhra helio, and it need atgm, and only helina is available. Don't get confused with development test with user test/trials, IA started test of helina from rudhra helio, if there is no major issue, then lsp, DRDO having exp with nag missile, and if any issue occur, it gets sorted out during lsp. IAF case is different, HAL started lsp of lch, once iaf starts trials and building infra, IAF starts ordering atgm in numbers, now one issue is quad launcher. Now it depends on civilian gov to allocate money and place order for helio,missile, infra, storage etc. 100 plus lch and 1000s of helio launched nag.