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But there is a clause for penalty on delay and that will affect their balance sheets and in turn the higher authorities will be on line of fire so less chances
Name one drdo or OhEffingB chief whose head has rolled for delay in a project ? Nope you won't find one, good luck
 

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Panag is an AAPtard most of his articles are BS,politically motivated and only inbreds believe them
What the fk did this Panag do when he was UNIA chief ? Can he tell one step he took to improve our info warfare capabilities ? Or did he try to separate SF from para ? IA top.brass is as much to blame as the govt
 

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Err by bidding lowest for every defence tender, bcos they know they're not held accountable for performance by the govt. They are bleeding tax payers money like its their abbu ka paisa
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How does that stop private firms from doing their own R&D? How does DRDO even bids for something, last time I checked it only provides tenders and others bids for them.
Might as well privatise air we breath in
 

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Airforce says not enough jets for 2 adversaries. Need more money.
Hmmm why the eff don't UNAF order more tejas then ? No saar that is brown native coolie maal, we are the ROYAL Indian airforce we want the best the white mans industry has to offer ? None of that shite from natives saah !
 

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INDIAN PRIVATE FIRM DEVELOPS 'LOITERING MUNITIONS', TESTS SUCCESSFULLY IN HIGH ALTITUDE CONDITIONS IN LADAKH
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Economics Explosives Ltd (EEL), a subsidiary of Solar Industries India Ltd, has developed ‘Loitering Munitions’ and successfully tested it in high altitude conditions in Ladakh in association with Z Motion Autonomous System Pvt Ltd, Bangalore.


The development of the weapon system is part of the company’s commitment to contributing to self-reliance in the Defence sector.

“All 3 newly developed Loitering Munitions (LM0, LM1, and Hexacopter) have successfully been tested in Nubra Valley area of Ladakh last month during 21-23 March 2022. While LM0 and LM1 achieved full endurance of 60 minutes, the hexacopter did 30 mins flight, making it for the first time in the world that the Man-Portable Loiter Munitions with 4 Kg warhead have successfully tested at a flight ceiling of 4500 m, thanks to the facilitation by Army Design Bureau,” said a statement by the company.

In a strategic decision, Solar has announced an acquisition of a 45 per cent equity stake for an undisclosed consideration in Z Motion Autonomous System Pvt. Ltd, Bangalore. This investment will strengthen Solar’s initiative of developing weaponized Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) for offensive and Counter Drone systems for the defensive role, said the statement.
 

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Everyone is saying the HAP prototype under the blue tarp is the same as the prototype which is placed in the hangar.

If these two are the same then for being a scaled model it is pretty large because in the photo we can see one engine nacelle and part of the wing (which if compared to the Rudra besides it the length can be almost the same as main body of the heli not including the tail) and if you look at the prototype in the Hangar you can see the main Hub is flanked by 2 engine nacelles on either side.

Which means we only see just 1/3rd of the prototype.

In my opinion it might be actually the bigger version of the MARAAL UAV or new UAV prototype altogether.

If any subject matter expert can clear the confusion it'll be much appreciated.

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INDIAN PRIVATE FIRM DEVELOPS 'LOITERING MUNITIONS', TESTS SUCCESSFULLY IN HIGH ALTITUDE CONDITIONS IN LADAKH
New Delhi:
Economics Explosives Ltd (EEL), a subsidiary of Solar Industries India Ltd, has developed ‘Loitering Munitions’ and successfully tested it in high altitude conditions in Ladakh in association with Z Motion Autonomous System Pvt Ltd, Bangalore.


The development of the weapon system is part of the company’s commitment to contributing to self-reliance in the Defence sector.

“All 3 newly developed Loitering Munitions (LM0, LM1, and Hexacopter) have successfully been tested in Nubra Valley area of Ladakh last month during 21-23 March 2022. While LM0 and LM1 achieved full endurance of 60 minutes, the hexacopter did 30 mins flight, making it for the first time in the world that the Man-Portable Loiter Munitions with 4 Kg warhead have successfully tested at a flight ceiling of 4500 m, thanks to the facilitation by Army Design Bureau,” said a statement by the company.

In a strategic decision, Solar has announced an acquisition of a 45 per cent equity stake for an undisclosed consideration in Z Motion Autonomous System Pvt. Ltd, Bangalore. This investment will strengthen Solar’s initiative of developing weaponized Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) for offensive and Counter Drone systems for the defensive role, said the statement.
Army Design Bureau.... I think few people over here would be having a very hard time swallowing the fact. Few days ago when I used the same term, someone here just laughed at it.
 

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Army Design Bureau.... I think few people over here would be having a very hard time swallowing the fact. Few days ago when I used the same term, someone here just laughed at it.
Chinmoy saab, mere uttering Army design bureau means nothing. If I ask what is their Technological contribution in the product ?? then Answer will be Zero.

Government nowhere promote now inhouse designing by armed forces. Moreover this is actually a bunch of few people who give inputs at design phase. It's not as you pretending.

Only navy have dedicated design bureau and that too work with other central agencies.

IAF often do detailed design review and you can call them Airforce design bureau.

Armed forces ki train bahut pahle chhot gyi hai... Ab ye drame karke kuch nhi hoga.
 

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Nasm mr will be subsonic a supersonic missile will be much more costly and unnecessary since we already have brahmos....we currently need subsonic, cheap missiles that can be build and fired in large numbers
NASM-SR has more to do with size and weight reduction rather than cost reduction.
Brahmos is extremely bulky and large limiting launch platform and launch profile.
 

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NASM-SR has more to do with size and weight reduction rather than cost reduction.
Brahmos is extremely bulky and large limiting launch platform and launch profile.
SR kidhar se a raha hai vai i am talking about MR....btw if it was only about size and weight then the forces would be focusing on brahmos ng only.
Cost is a big problem u dont just throw a 3-5 mln $ missile at everything a cheap subsonic alternative is absolutely necessary
 

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SR kidhar se a raha hai vai i am talking about MR....btw if it was only about size and weight then the forces would be focusing on brahmos ng only.
Brahmos-NG is still to heavy for a lot of platforms like Tejas, rotary winged aircraft like Dhruv, UCAVs, Mig-29K and our corvettes.
NASM-SR and NASM will be used to fulfill this role.
Cost is a big problem u dont just throw a 3-5 mln $ missile at everything a cheap subsonic alternative is absolutely necessary
When you are in a war engaging enemy ships or HVT cost is never the issue. Only results matter and you want to win.
 

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Chinmoy saab, mere uttering Army design bureau means nothing. If I ask what is their Technological contribution in the product ?? then Answer will be Zero.

Government nowhere promote now inhouse designing by armed forces. Moreover this is actually a bunch of few people who give inputs at design phase. It's not as you pretending.

Only navy have dedicated design bureau and that too work with other central agencies.

IAF often do detailed design review and you can call them Airforce design bureau.

Armed forces ki train bahut pahle chhot gyi hai... Ab ye drame karke kuch nhi hoga.
Vishnugupt Saab..... Mere crying over with some illogical talking is not going to solve the issue.

What is technological contribution of Naval design bureau? We would sing Iliad and Odyssey on how they do promote indigenization. But when 5 years back the same concept has been implemented by IA, we would laugh about it.

Now when you don't even know the difference in between a detail design review and designing, what could anyone do?
Tell me one thing, when NDB was involved in IAC-1 design from day 1, why its design and subcomponents has undergone repeated change in detail design review? Same you could see for all ships involved.
 

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FYI.. Charter of Army Design Bureau
an organisation needs to be judged based on it's roles and responsibilities.
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Chinmoy saab, mere uttering Army design bureau means nothing. If I ask what is their Technological contribution in the product ?? then Answer will be Zero.

Government nowhere promote now inhouse designing by armed forces. Moreover this is actually a bunch of few people who give inputs at design phase. It's not as you pretending.

Only navy have dedicated design bureau and that too work with other central agencies.

IAF often do detailed design review and you can call them Airforce design bureau.

Armed forces ki train bahut pahle chhot gyi hai... Ab ye drame karke kuch nhi hoga.
Vishnugupt Saab..... Mere crying over with some illogical talking is not going to solve the issue.

What is technological contribution of Naval design bureau? We would sing Iliad and Odyssey on how they do promote indigenization. But when 5 years back the same concept has been implemented by IA, we would laugh about it.

Now when you don't even know the difference in between a detail design review and designing, what could anyone do?
Tell me one thing, when NDB was involved in IAC-1 design from day 1, why its design and subcomponents has undergone repeated change in detail design review? Same you could see for all ships involved.
 

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Exactly. This is what Naval Design Bureau does.
missing piece in this conversation is that age of the organisation matters, a new AIIMS takes 20-25 years to fully operationalise. ADB will mature as time progresses. ADB has an advantage that DND didn't when it started, that is an already well established domestic design and production base. DND was created to develop core competencies, because at that time no one around the world would give many technologies to us , and still some technologies are not available to us even today.
 
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