DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Butter Chicken]

This Kestrel is for IBTP...but only 6 units

 

[Covfefe]

 

[Knowitall]

Reform continues.

Now this is what you call a solid reform. So we be signing 30 significant deals with Indian companies by year end. Hopefully ATAGS and ULH gets massive orders.

Some of the key highlights that i would like to mention here are

Once a prototype is successful there is only a 5 month deadline to sign the contract. Previously the armed forces could stall the signing process for more than 2 years but now they will be forced to sign everything by 5 months and completely wrap up the process.

Contract negotiating committee has been reduced from 15 to 5 members so faster singing can take place.

The biggest change is the number of trails and it seems to be aimed at the army specifically. From holding two trials that would last for years only one trial will be conducted now.

Similarly GSQR has been removed and PSQR will be used as the final word now. This again seems to be aimed at the army and IAF who constantly change their requirements as time goes by.

All in all good days for our domestic MIC ahead.

 

[fire starter]

In short large scale orders are required to create robust supply chain. Now compare this to the orders of LCH, LUH etc.

 

[Shuturmurg]

In short large scale orders are required to create robust supply chain. Now compare this to the orders of LCH, LUH etc.

Do we have defence economists embedded in Defence aquisition council ? If not, then we should.

 

[Covfefe]

Do we have defence economists embedded in Defence aquisition council ? If not, then we should.

Not knowing the basic economics isn't a problem Defence acquisition deals with F35 is a prime example before them- an expensive fifth gen jet has been brought down to a price of 4.5 gen fighters

 

[Shuturmurg]

Not knowing the basic economics isn't a problem Defence acquisition deals with F35 is a prime example before them- an expensive fifth gen jet has been brought down to a price of 4.5 gen fighters

Dude as much progress as china has made in defence manufacturing, american Military industrial complex is something else. China is making 80 fighter jets in total a year (including 15-20 5th gen jet), US is cranking out 150 f-35's a year.

 

[Covfefe]

Dude as much progress as china has made in defence manufacturing, american Military industrial complex is something else. China is making 80 fighter jets in total a year (including 15-20 5th gen jet), US is cranking out 150 f-35's a year.

Network effects of US- it has all the prosperous countries in its network of Nato, And other security pacts, other than its own humongous military
China is a lone player with a bunch of thugs like Pakistan and North Korea as it's partner

 

[vishnugupt]

Reform continues.

Good steps in order to stop UN armed forces to change goal posts in middle of weapon/system development as PSQR will be treated as GSQR. These fake requirements were key to kill project even before it's birth.
Victims of this practice:- Arjun, light tank, Riffles, ATAGs, Kalyani group, Rustom 1. Grenade launcher.

Number of trails are also reduced so it will force UN Generals to come out from cozy office and property evaluate system at once. Victims:- Nag, Helina, Astra, Rustom 2, Akash missile.

Contract delay is another malicious practice used by UN Generals.
Victims of this practice:- LCH, LUH, HTT40, Tejas mk1a, Naval ALH, Milap carbine.

 

[Srinie]

Rather than just private players getting special treatment should have made these rules for domestic players including dspus. Poor chaps get exploited by armed forces bureaucrats jugalbandii.

 

[Lonewolf]

Rather than just private players getting special treatment should have made these rules for domestic players including dspus. Poor chaps get exploited by armed forces bureaucrats jugalbandii.

Dpsu will be privatized

 

[THESIS THORON]

This Kestrel is for IBTP...but only 6 units

ooth ke muh me jeera, just think, running full production line for just 6 units

 

[Lonewolf]

ooth ke muh me jeera, just think, running full production line for just 6 units

@Chinmoy explained it well earlier

 

[Vamsi]

Now this is what you call a solid reform. So we be signing 30 significant deals with Indian companies by year end. Hopefully ATAGS and ULH gets massive orders.

Some of the key highlights that i would like to mention here are

Once a prototype is successful there is only a 5 month deadline to sign the contract. Previously the armed forces could stall the signing process for more than 2 years but now they will be forced to sign everything by 5 months and completely wrap up the process.

Contract negotiating committee has been reduced from 15 to 5 members so faster singing can take place.

The biggest change is the number of trails and it seems to be aimed at the army specifically. From holding two trials that would last for years only one trial will be conducted now.

Similarly GSQR has been removed and PSQR will be used as the final word now. This again seems to be aimed at the army and IAF who constantly change their requirements as time goes by.

All in all good days for our domestic MIC ahead.

Well all these are good, but I would like to see some Dalals getting a firing squad in public, so that it would instill some fear for good. This firing squad ceremony should be started with Bofors & Anti-Tejas dalals

Dalals getting the firing squad will be the biggest reform, Trust me. If Mudi baba does this, I will vote for him blindly

 

[Chinmoy]

No, EO system similar to FCR. Info/data ?

No. We are not using any indigenous E/O system with our air defence as of now.
It would come first with MPATGM then on MANPAD.

 

[mokoman]

Dude as much progress as china has made in defence manufacturing, american Military industrial complex is something else. China is making 80 fighter jets in total a year (including 15-20 5th gen jet), US is cranking out 150 f-35's a year.

read somewhere that total orders for F35 is something like 3000 . crazy number. probably reach that in 10-15 years.

 

[flanker99]

read somewhere that total orders for F35 is something like 3000 . crazy number. probably reach that in 10-15 years.

No no thats the commitment not orders , afaik orders are around 200 or so placed every year

 

[Dark Sorrow]

F-35 Production Set at 156 Per Year Until Completion

Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Program Office have agreed that F-35 production will peak at 156 planes per year in 2023 and remain at that level “for the foreseeable future.”


The JPO and Lockheed Martin have agreed to a “rebaselining” of the program that “ensures predictability and stability in the production process” of the F-35, the company said in a press release.


Lockheed Martin will deliver “133-139 aircraft this year [calendar 2021], 151-153 aircraft in 2022, and anticipates delivering 156 aircraft beginning in 2023 and for the foreseeable future,” it announced. The company did not say how many of each variant will be delivered. Defense officials have said the pre-pandemic goal was to achieve deliveries of 155 airplanes a year by the end of 2022.


The company delivered 120 F-35s in 2020, versus a planned 141, and reduced its planned production this year from 169 to 139. Lockheed Martin officials have chalked up the missed deliveries to supply problems stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic as well as the need to rearrange workspaces and shifts to keep workers appropriately distanced during production. However, production was never halted due to the pandemic.


Late last year, the company said it would not accelerate production to quickly make up the missed deliveries, as that would require a hiring surge or added shifts and create demand for supplied materials that would be disruptive to the rhythm of manufacturing the F-35. At the time, it expected to make up the missed deliveries by the end of 2023.


Bridget Lauderdale, Lockheed Martin vice president and general manager for the F-35, said in June that “many of our suppliers are small businesses. We were very focused during the pandemic on ensuring we were flowing resources [and] money from the U.S. government, to ensure that our small businesses could continue to operate and deliver supply” to the factory. She said the “great news is, the line is stabilizing and the supply base is stabilizing,” and she expected to “ramp back up” in the near future.


A company spokesman said the announcement is not an indication that a deal has been reached on Lot 15-17 negotiations, which continue. Program Executive Officer Air Force Lt. Gen. Eric T. Fick said earlier this month that he hoped to achieve an agreement on Lot 15-17 by the end of October but that negotiations could stretch out longer.


Both Fick and Lockheed Martin have said Lot 15-17 may not see the same year-over-year unit cost reductions in the F-35 because Lot 15 and beyond yield the Block 4 upgrade of the jet, with new and more complex capabilities.


The announcement also does not indicate that the F-35 has achieved “full-rate production” status, usually declared by the Pentagon after a program has satisfied the operational test community that it meets requirements. The Pentagon delayed the declaration of full rate to allow the F-35 to be integrated with the Joint Simulation Environment, a wargaming platform that measures the jet’s performance in highly classified conditions. While establishing a peak production rate for the F-35 is a de facto “full-rate” declaration, absent the official status, the program can’t officially enter into multiyear procurement contracts, which can reduce costs by buying materials in economic quantities. The F-35 partners already benefit from a “block buy” approach similar to a multiyear deal. However, by setting a peak production rate, a multiyear deal may be moot.


The Air Force has signaled that it will buy about five fewer F-35s per year over the next few years, preferring to wait for the Block 4 jets as they start coming off the production line in fiscal 2023. It did not include the F-35 on its “unfunded priorities list” submitted to Congress, which has added 12 jets per year to the Air Force’s request for 48 jets in the last few years.


The Air Force currently fields about 300 of its planned 1,763 F-35s. If it continued to buy the jets at a rate of 48 per year, it would complete its purchases of the fighter in the early 2050s. Original plans called for the Air Force to buy F-35s at a rate of 110 per year starting in the mid-2010s. Current plans do not forecast an Air Force production increase before 2025 at the earliest.


More than 700 F-35s have been delivered to customers worldwide, Lockheed Martin said, and the three variants have amassed more than 430,000 flight hours.

F-35 Production Set at 156 Per Year Until Completion | Air & Space Forces Magazine

F-35 production will peak at 156 a year in 2023 and remain at that level "for the foreseeable future," Lockheed Martin said.

www.airforcemag.com

 

[Dark Sorrow]

No no thats the commitment not orders , afaik orders are around 200 or so placed every year

Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II procurement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Chinmoy]

Samyukta EW system kya achaar daalne ke liye hai?

As per Twitter Media Bureau, India was acquiring drone guard from Israel. Where is that?