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[Prashant12]

If we can have SAMs, why can't we have anti torpedo defence? Torpedoes move much slower and can be tracked easily. Why not develop anti torpedo defence?

Mareech torpedo defence system inducted

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Kochi/mareech-torpedo-defence-system-inducted/article7882612.ece

 

[soikot banerjee]

A new BPJ of NIJ level III+ developed by BARC named "BHABHA Kavach".
Manufacturing Unit: MIDHANI
Current User : CRPF, This was handed over to DG CRPF on 7/9/2017.

Link Regarding further Info:http://barc.gov.in/technologies/kavach/index.html

 

[Adioz]

A new BPJ of NIJ level III+ developed by BARC named "BHABHA Kavach".
Manufacturing Unit: MIDHANI
Current User : CRPF, This was handed over to DG CRPF on 7/9/2017.
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Link Regarding further Info:http://barc.gov.in/technologies/kavach/index.html

Why old Army camouflage?

 

[Guest]

Nice find!!! Varunastra is ship borne torp. Its sub counterpart is takshak, while Shakti is thermal torp. but all those are based on the russian SET-53 ( 24 ft long ) vs western 21 ft torpedo (6.4 m). Looks like IN may not need to import torps for the SSN/SSBN or SSK's soon enough.

The thermal torpedo is going to be a true game changer, It will have monofuel unlike fuel and oxidizers the Russian torpedoes have and caused disaster due to oxidizer leaks in Submarines.

 

[soikot banerjee]

Why old Army camouflage?

It can be changed....!
But the most noticable feature is it's the lightest NIJ III+ Jacket ever whose maximum weight remains lower than 9KG.

 

[NeXoft007]

The thermal torpedo is going to be a true game changer, It will have monofuel unlike fuel and oxidizers the Russian torpedoes have and caused disaster due to oxidizer leaks in Submarines.

Thermal Torpedo isn't near tho, didn't hear any progress on it and Indian Navy's torpedo plans are quite confusing since other than thermal torpedo... supercavitating torpedo & Rocket Assisted Torpedo are too under R&D and there's this electrical heavy weight torpedo powered by Silver Zinc Oxide battery.

 

[NeXoft007]

With the completion of Nag ATGM developmental trials, Indian Army MUST procure NAMICA in large numbers so that Armed thrust of both China and Pakistan could be halted/ destroyed and pave way for our armed thrust.

 

[Vijyes]

With the completion of Nag ATGM developmental trials, Indian Army MUST procure NAMICA in large numbers so that Armed thrust of both China and Pakistan could be halted/ destroyed and pave way for our armed thrust.
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Why can't spike be used in place of NAG? Spike portable ATGM also has 4km range but lower weight. Why is Nag so heavy when spike is so lightweight?

 

[soikot banerjee]

Why can't spike be used in place of NAG? Spike portable ATGM also has 4km range but lower weight. Why is Nag so heavy when spike is so lightweight?

The seeker of NAG is way more sophisticated than other ATGM, It is a mammoth task to identify target in near 55-60 degree C in Thar area of Rajasthan, Not something firangis have to face in their usual war zone. That makes up the weight.

 

[NeXoft007]

Why can't spike be used in place of NAG? Spike portable ATGM also has 4km range but lower weight. Why is Nag so heavy when spike is so lightweight?

Care to watch the amount of explosives stuffed inside Nag? Its meant to completely destroy even the heavily armored tank. And its designed with Active Protection System in mind. It got TVCs and electromechanical actuators as well for maneuvering.

 

[Armand2REP]

The seeker of NAG is way more sophisticated than other ATGM, It is a mammoth task to identify target in near 55-60 degree C in Thar area of Rajasthan, Not something firangis have to face in their usual war zone. That makes up the weight.

NAG is like Indian attempt at Javelin without the miniaturization advantage of USA. They got the job done but it always ends up bigger and heavier.

 

[soikot banerjee]

NAG is like Indian attempt at Javelin without the miniaturization advantage of USA. They got the job done but it always ends up bigger and heavier.

Anyways for now it is successful in destrying whatever it is pointed at, let's hope the best. Indigenous solution is better than foreign anytime.

 

[Armand2REP]

Anyways for now it is successful in destrying whatever it is pointed at, let's hope the best. Indigenous solution is better than foreign anytime.

You said it was because the seeker was heavier but Sofradir is providing the FPA, it is same seeker used in French missiles. I actually want more NAG variants, Israelis taking the whole market.

 

[Vijyes]

The seeker of NAG is way more sophisticated than other ATGM, It is a mammoth task to identify target in near 55-60 degree C in Thar area of Rajasthan, Not something firangis have to face in their usual war zone. That makes up the weight.

Israel has to face desert warfare as Israel is 50% desert. So, it is wrong to say that the firangis do not need desert warfare ATGM

NAG is like Indian attempt at Javelin without the miniaturization advantage of USA. They got the job done but it always ends up bigger and heavier.

We have obtained ToT for spike ATGM in place of javelin. Spike is the Javelin equivalent. Nag was always meant to be larger and dual role - ground and aerial (helicopter and drone).

I was only asking why isn't just manportable ATGMs sufficient for all requirements? Why isn't Javelin/spike used in place of hellfire/LAHAT and similar ground vehicles?

 

[Vijyes]

You said it was because the seeker was heavier but Sofridir is providing the FPA, it is same seeker used in French missiles. I actually want more NAG variants, Israelis taking the whole market.

Nag is LAHAT type missile and seeker is indigenous IIR seeker. DRDO has made more advanced seeker - by combining 3 IIR seekers of different aspects to work well in all scenarios. Now, immaterial of the temperature, the range will not have to be reduced from 4km

 

[Armand2REP]

We have obtained ToT for spike ATGM in place of javelin. Spike is the Javelin equivalent. Nag was always meant to be larger and dual role - ground and aerial (helicopter and drone).

I was only asking why isn't just manportable ATGMs sufficient for all requirements? Why isn't Javelin/spike used in place of hellfire and similar ground vehicles?

India bought Spike ER with 8km range. It is 2X Javelin range and higher attack angle. It has a heavy mount requiring light tactical vehicles as carriers. Rafael is also offering Spike to India in the helicopter variant. Israel is trying to kill the entire NAG project. Man portable is only for short range, the longer range is much heavier.

 

[Armand2REP]

Nag is LAHAT type missile and seeker is indigenous IIR seeker. DRDO has made more advanced seeker - by combining 3 IIR seekers of different aspects to work well in all scenarios. Now, immaterial of the temperature, the range will not have to be reduced from 4km

You are correct, it is not a seeker from Sofradir. It is the DDCA used for a cooled IR filter which India spent 46.50 crore on 200 units.

 

[Vijyes]

You are correct, it is not a seeker from Sofradir. It is the DDCA used for a cooled IR filter which India spent 46.50 crore on 200 units.

Also, india bought spike MR, a tripod launched ATGM. It was not ER version

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/hyde...le-hub-sets-shop/amp_articleshow/59908633.cms

 

[Armand2REP]

Also, india bought spike MR, a tripod launched ATGM. It was not ER version

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/hyde...le-hub-sets-shop/amp_articleshow/59908633.cms

Only 2.5kms... why buy that? That puts you in danger of being engaged by tanks.

 

[Vijyes]

Only 2.5kms... why buy that? That puts you in danger of being engaged by tanks.

Manportable of longer range is heavier I guess. Even this is tripod launched missile, not shoulder launch. I am guessing that the Wikipedia weight and range of missiles may be misleading.

Also, I don't think that a tank can spot a man hiding a kilometre + away as a man is much smaller object to spot. I am not sure of this though