more like scar rifle,
It look alot like 1B1 ..
It depends on which barrel is fitted- the 7.62mm barrel looks rather long (might be an optical illusion because it simply seems a lot "chunkier") but the 5.56mm looks fine as seen below
I'm guessing a lot of the INSAS's internals are carried foreward on the MCIWS especially the 5.56mm barrel design.
It look alot like 1B1 ..
Remember, here we are seeing two different barrels- the 7.62mm and 5.56mm barrels appear to have different apearances. The 5.56mm is the top most (very INSAS like) and the 7.62mm is seen on the 2nd and 3rd pictures.
This rifle will change alot, In times to come and the end result might not be what most wanted ..
It was rejected in favour of the conventional design. Both designs were considered and finally the IA sided against it.does anyone know what happened to the bullpup design of multi calibr rifle?
even ignoring the barrel that gun is still lengthier,
this one is nice design and it do not look like 1b1,
It look alot like 1B1 ..
I don't disagree but all I would say is that it lokos like it is the 7.62mm barrel (ie the COIN barrel/calibre) that is longer and here accuracy may not be as important as the fighting will be more up close- as is the nature of CT/COIN operations. Addtionally, it is possible(/likely) that the IA will be ordering these rifles with RDS (and telescopic) sights as has been seen fitted to most display models given that this is part of the IA's modernisaton plans and that they had specified the need to be able to fight such sights.
It will be avalble to all units, the SF have a free choice on weapons so they will choose what best suits their needs.
That's only in your head mate,otherwise this MCIWS or whatever,its length is pretty consistent with comparable rifles world wide.
Oh yeah??But the USMC seems to disagree with your reconing since they rejected the M4 Carbines in favour of their trusty M16A4 rifles,which by the way at 1003mm, is overall more than 10cm longer compared to this MCIWS with its overall length standing at 910mm with its 18.4" barrel!!
No you do not!!Cause no one uses foregrips while engaging targets at standard ranges and besides,with widescale dispersion of UBGLs,there simply wouldn't be any scopes left to mount the foregrips,making it a completely moot point anyway,hombre!!
And may I ask you how did you reach to this conclusion??Why do you think its recoil would be any greater than that of any other rifle designe,chambered for the given rounds??If anything,its recoil and resulting muzzle rise should be more controlable than is possible with older designes like INSAS and AK variants due to its incorporation of straight-line recoil configuration,in that the position of the shoulder stock is placed in line with the longitudinal axis of the barrel (same configuration as that of the M16),making short bursts more controllable.
Bloody right it does not,cause the 1B1 is of stamped construction with its machineries being held in their places with lots of lots of rivets (the reason why the INSAS generally looks so crude and rather dated,but to all fairness to the ARDE,that's all India could afford at that time,so............) where as the other one being discussed here is of milled construction,with a slick looking finish due to extensive use of precision spot weldings to hold the machineries in place.
About the bolded part,well,some of the mechanisms are same,like the retaining of the rotating bolt from the 1B1,as with any other modern rifle designe all over the world,but otherwise,there aren't really much similarity between these two designes.this is 1b1 rifle,
most of the mechanism maybe same but look is different.
MCIWS is a huge step up for the Indian footsoldier in almost every respect and a good progression for the Indian defence industry. If done well this rifle could secure some serious export orders. The INSAS was always accurate and reliable but bad press and poor build quality ruined its international image.
Nah, it's still multi-cal, they have just changed the name.
I think INSAS was operational with Oman was well. Bad press is expected in every Indian defence product.
I want muticaliber rifle with 5.56 mm and 6.8 mm caliber only. Do not make it unnecessarily complicated. 7.62 mm is unnecessary after having 6.8 mm caliber. 7.62 mm has lower accuracy and range. 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm should suffice.
The MCIWS is said to be abe to fire 5.56mm, 6.8mm and 7.62mm calibres. Maybe the long term goal is to move to just 5.56mm and 6.8mm but for an interim period the IA will still need to have the ability to fire 7.62mm. It doesn't make sense for the IA to have 3 calibres at one time.
If I might pitch in with an idea...I say we need to start paying filmmakers and video game-developers to feature AAR and MSMC in their content. It might seem trivial, but these are the mediums that mainly inspire civilian gun-owners in the US nowadays to go out and buy a firearm.
Well for India, filmmakers would do, cause there's no decent game developers. But for international games, it purely depend on storyline of the developer. Usually its the modders that should do the trick, modding community can add a lot of content, eg: Fallout 4 has huge no. of weapon mods, someone who knows how to create mod can do it.If I might pitch in with an idea...I say we need to start paying filmmakers and video game-developers to feature AAR and MSMC in their content. It might seem trivial, but these are the mediums that mainly inspire civilian gun-owners in the US nowadays to go out and buy a firearm.
The MSMC has already made an appearance in Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 ....
And the INSAS has been featured in Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2...although it's not usable in that game.
