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Why do we need both Dhanush and ATAGS? Isn't one enough? I know that Dhanush is 45 calibre while ATAGS is 52 Calibre. But, why have both? We have M777 for lightweight howitzer and one long range artillery - either ATAGS or Dhanush should be enoughGood to know about Kalyani and TATA - ATAG.
What happened to Dhanush or M777 tests?
Giving it up will be a blunder.
Then again, what about fixing the OFB to make the correct type of artillery shells?
Competition for one thing. More the players more the performance.Why do we need both Dhanush and ATAGS? Isn't one enough? I know that Dhanush is 45 calibre while ATAGS is 52 Calibre. But, why have both? We have M777 for lightweight howitzer and one long range artillery - either ATAGS or Dhanush should be enough
Wrong thread my friend. This should be posted in Indian economy thread, not in artillery thread.ADB downgrades India's GDP growth outlook to 7% for 2017-18
GDP Is projected grow Gross 7% My prediction 6.8
It is still Better What Opposition is projecting Which slowdown
This is a great accomplishment. usually hot weather trials are more difficult for these type of guns. If hot weather trials are successful, I do not think that cold weather trial will cause much problem. We should start the preparation of mass production and we must start finding possible customers for this gun.Advanced artillery gun passes user trials in deserts: DRDO
Pune: The country's first fully integrated Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS), being developed by the Defence Research and Developed Organisation (DRDO), has successfully completed user assisted technical trials for desert terrain at the Pokhran firing range in Rajasthan.
P K Mehta, DRDO's director general for armament and combat engineering system, told TOI on Wednesday, "We have achieved the desired results in the user assisted trials and the gun is now poised for further trials (for other terrains) in the coming months."
The trials in the deserts were carried out by DRDO scientists and the Indian Army's director general for artillery from August 24 to September 7. A large number of extended range full bore artillery ammunitions were successfully fired from the gun during the trials.
Project director S V Gade of the Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) in Pune, who anchored the trials, said, "The users (Indian Army) fired all type of ammunitions and achieved the desired range and consistency for the live ammunition. In fact, the gun successfully hit a target at 48km distance. No other contemporary artillery guns are able to achieve a range of more than 40km so far." The ATAGS is capable of firing a Bi-Modular Charge System (BMCS) Zone 7 propellant, which no other country is able to fire as on date, he added.
Gade said, "We have also validated firing table in a limited way of the gun, which was very crucial task for us."
The ATAGS has an all-electric drive which gives advantage over traditional hydraulic drives which exists in other towed guns. The electric drives of the ATAGS gives controls in handling ammunition, opening and closing the breech mech. and ramming the round into firing chamber, Gade added.
"The gun will undergo refinements and will be ready for high altitude trials which are likely to be conducted at Sikkim in December, depending on a confirmation from the army authorities," Gade said. The gun is expected to be inducted in the Indian Army by 2020, sources in DRDO said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ials-in-deserts-drdo/articleshow/60861956.cms
Let the forth quarter come and people shall start revising the GDP upward.ADB downgrades India's GDP growth outlook to 7% for 2017-18
GDP Is projected grow Gross 7% My prediction 6.8
It is still Better What Opposition is projecting Which slowdown
I think this M77 gun is of high caliber. We we move from 155*52 to something like 155*72, we shall also have longer range. This gun is likely hold a leading position in 155*52 caliber category.It's a wonderful news if true but chances are that this record will be short lived as M777-ER is claiming a better range. Let's see how it turns out.
Another thing is that MOD babu's, Bharat Forge and Mandus better get their act together and move from 39 calibre ULWH to 52 calibre quickly or skip 39 calibre all together or else they will once again lose the race to BAE.
But regardless of whatever BAE claims, kudos to DRDO's scientists. We are turning from a country without decent artillery to one which will be counted amongst the best. Only if IA doesn't mess this up.
Can anyone tell me about the production lines of ATAGS? Will both Tata & Bharat Forge produce the winning design or will the loser go home empty handed?
M777-ER is the 52 calibre variant of M777, same as ATAGS.I think this M77 gun is of high caliber. We we move from 155*52 to something like 155*72, we shall also have longer range. This gun is likely hold a leading position in 155*52 caliber category.
M777-ER is the 52 calibre variant of M777, same as ATAGS.
I know and I thought it was implied in my earlier posts.Just the barrel length, Nothing much in common ..
This means around 60-65km range in places like Cargill, rocket assisted rounds will farther. We need to develop accuracy kits and guided rounds also.
The shell hit the muzzle break which means the trajectory of it as soon as it left the barrel was off by several degrees. It could have been caused by either uneven detonation of the charge or the rifling was so screwed up the shell was bouncing off the sides like a smooth-bore musket.http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/09/artillery-shells-broke-up-within.html
Can experts on this forum read and analyze this Times Of India report.
When Shell size differ from Bore size of gun and do not fit accurately, it lets the hot jet to come out from one side before shell comes out. which pushes shell one side when it comes out and it causes the shell to collide with one side of gun and damages it.The shell hit the muzzle break which means the trajectory of it as soon as it left the barrel was off by several degrees. It could have been caused by either uneven detonation of the charge or the rifling was so screwed up the shell was bouncing off the sides like a smooth-bore musket.
This fit needs to be perfect or the shell can bounce around.
When these guns were in making, we were told that they will be fire upto 40 KMs. Now guns have broken all the records and have fired 20% longer range. Great job Baba kalyani and TATA.
If they have their product ready then they should definitely ask MoD for testing range or partner with DRDO for further development.When these guns were in making, we were told that they will be fire upto 40 KMs. Now guns have broken all the records and have fired 20% longer range. Great job Baba kalyani and TATA.
Baba kalyanis ultra light field gun is also a very classic gun which weighs just 900 KG against the 4100 kg of old gun. It is a logistic blessing. You can carry it to any place with ALH.