Denuclearization of Pakistan via economic sanctions

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I was thinking about practical means to denuclearize Pakistan. I was wondering if it would be feasible via international sanctions from the US and NATO.

Remember that the US placed sanctions on Pakistan after the nuclear test and only lifted them due to the war on terror. Finding Bin Laden in Pakistan and continued support for the Taliban, as well as general instability/number of Jihadist groups has probably made Washington very nervous about Pakistan's nuclear weapons programs.

Already there are plans to secure the nuclear weapons if anything goes wrong, an agreement that Beijing is okay with apparently: '


However, this centers on the idea of giving Pakistan back their nukes after they are secured. I was wondering if there was a possibility of the US getting rid of Pakistan's nukes entirely and not giving them back?

It would probably go something like this:
1. Form an international coalition of NATO (like the UK and France) and Regional (India and Afghanistan) allies to intervene just in case an emergency situation happens and military intervention is required.
2. Communicate to Beijing that if the coalition has to go in, that they will not be returning the nukes to Pakistan but instead be destroying everything, and that it's in their interest to be with us rather than against us, as then we could protect the CPEC instead of destroying it.

After the worst case scenarios are planned for, you can then begin diplomacy:
1. US would offer incentives, such as increased foreign aid, assistance with cracking down on militants, holding India accountable for anything India does in Balochistan or Kashmir etc. Offer to talk to India to see if India would also agree to denuclearize (they won't), and offer to talk to China if India agrees to denuclearize if Pakistan and China also do.
2. If incentives fail, then you can proceed to light sanctions, such as banning some imports and exports, and cut off all US foreign aid.
3. If this fails, move to heavy sanctions. Any country that does business with Pakistan, cannot do business with the United States, including buying any computer that has windows or mac, or any smartphone that has android or IOS, or use any social media platform like twitter or instagram or facebook etc. Even China will have to comply with these sanctions. Also remove Pakistan's status as a major non-NATO ally.
4. If even the heavy sanctions fail, move to indirect warfare. Meaning no nation that even gives foreign aid to Pakistan, can do any business with the US. Also, send in the US navy to blockade ports, and send the US airforce to bases in Afghanistan and maybe to India to block NGO and humanitarian aid ships from flying in to deliver relief.

If that happens, Pakistan will basically turn into worse than North Korea. I highly doubt the Balochi and Sindhi people will be willing to eat grass and leaves just for Pakistan to keep their bombs, or the TTP for that matter, and an internal civil war will start. This will either force them to give up their nukes, or some rebel group will take over a base housing nuclear weapons, providing and excuse for a military operation to destroy all of their nuclear facilities via airstrikes and ground invasion.

Once Pakistan is denuclearized, it will be much safer to fully support Balochistan and Sindhudesh rebels, and for India to take back POK and for Afghanistan to take back all of the Pashtun lands east of the Durand Line. At that point, Pakistan will have been reduced to the Punjab province, landlocked between hostile neighbors, and China will have no access to the Arabian sea.

How feasible do you think this is? Do you think the US will openly support a denuclearized Pakistan now that they no longer need them for help with Afghanistan? Or is there some other value to Pakistani nukes to Washington?
 

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The only reason that Pakistan got the nuke was because India got the nuke.
The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
 

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The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Pakistan's nukes are WAY more unstable than India's. Pakistan is near the bottom of the failed state index whereas India is in the middle, around the same level as Israel and China. The sheer amount of internal conflict, and penetration of their military and government with Islamic extremists makes their nuclear weapons a serious threat to fall into Jihadist groups.

Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
India doesn't want to reconquer Pakistan (other than maybe POK at the most) and import another 200 million Muslims

Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
India at least has a safe and stable nuclear weapons program and has signed the NFU treaty.
 

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The only reason that Pakistan got the nuke was because India got the nuke.
The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
Speaks who ? What's your nationality , Chinese ? Right , flag is misguiding though .

India don't want radical pigs of pakistan , nor we are interested in hounding them out from every part of pakistan , just few goodues in Balochistan , pok , that's it
 

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The only reason that Pakistan got the nuke was because India got the nuke.
The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
So you chinese are illegitimate nuclear nation.
Give up your nukes , vacate Tibet we will give up our nukes but vacate nowhere.
 

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I have a different opinion.
Nuclear weapons don't arm and launch themselves. It is done on orders from Gernails who themselves are free from all consequences as they keep Dual Citizenship and their family like the ruling elite is only part time Pakistani.

If we want Pakistani Establishment to stop terrorism in India stop fighting them in India and don't even think of going to Porkistan. Instead, for every Indian civilian dying of Pak sponsered group we assasinate one Pakistani Overseas Citizen. US, UK, AUSTRALIA, New Zealand, Canada, everywhere they feel safe.

For every Indian Military or Police loss we assasinate one Pakistani Military officer Overseas. This will force accountability on the actual perpetrators of terrorism rather than the Cannon Fodder left around to cry Human Rights Violation.

If US, UK or any other country should try to intervene we should give then the Godfather Deal. Instead of killing porkies in their country we will kill their citizen and they should then do Justice as they deem fit.

This will force Pakistani Establishment to give up their Dual Citizenship and live in the hell hole of their making, thus forcing improvement or Stop terrorism in India if they want their children to survive overseas.

Economic Sanctions only affect the people who actually Live in Pakistan not the elite who pay taxes in other country and live in other country half the year.
 

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Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
Guys he has spoken, time to give up our nukes, cause a random person on a defence forum told me "India is not a legitimate nuclear country" despite being signatories to almost all reasonable nuclear treaties.
 

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The only reason that Pakistan got the nuke was because India got the nuke.
The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
who makes these rules?

China does not belong to UNSC security council, China lost to Japan and west came to save it.

secondly CPC is not recognised as real Chinese authority, Taiwan is real China.
 

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The only reason that Pakistan got the nuke was because India got the nuke.
The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
Their dumb inbred jihadi could get offended by a simple cartoon of PUBG. Look at the riots they doing aginst French. God forbid those Pakistani nukes will one day be used against some woke western country. Anyone with sense would know how unstable Pakistan is. Not just civilians but their military too is highly corrupt and of Jihadi mindset.
 

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The only reason that Pakistan got the nuke was because India got the nuke.
The only reason that Pakistan is allowed to keep the nuke is because India is keeping the nuke.
Forcing Pakistan to give up her nuke when India is still a nuclear country is no different from gifting Pakistan to India.
Don't forget, just as Pakistan, India is not a legitimate nuclear country either.
Don't forget their is a treaty between india and pakistan that they will never use nukes against civilian population and on industrial infrastructure
 

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Guys he has spoken, time to give up our nukes, cause a random person on a defence forum told me "India is not a legitimate nuclear country" despite being signatories to almost all reasonable nuclear treaties.
Really?
India is not signatory of the most 2 important nuclear treaties: NPT and CTBT.
 

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Their dumb inbred jihadi could get offended by a simple cartoon of PUBG. Look at the riots they doing aginst French.
These jihadi or their leaders were all graduated from those religious school created by US in 1980s. So, technically, these jihadis are children of US too.

Even today, some of Islamic extremists are still receiving their training in US camps in Afghan.

God forbid those Pakistani nukes will one day be used against some woke western country. Anyone with sense would know how unstable Pakistan is. Not just civilians but their military too is highly corrupt and of Jihadi mindset.
As long as a nuclearized India is here, Pakistan is fully occupied.
 

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No amount of economic sanction will stop Pakis from giving up the Nukes. See North Korea? They are brainwashed momins who market nukes as Islamic bomb.

The only way to do it is disintegration. Nothing more or less. Even in that case, Punjab might end up with few nukes while Saudi and Turkey might end up with them.
As of now, I would say, India has to spend on her economic success which would indirectly take care of Pakistan.
 

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@Hellfire always said that if push came to shove, India - and several likeminded countries - had a contingency plan to secure/destroy Paki nukes and sites.

India's nuclear doctrine is also apparently a massive, pre-emptive counterforce strike once satellites pick up Pak setting up TEL's.

Here are some more interesting articles on US plans re: Paki nukes -


 

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These jihadi or their leaders were all graduated from those religious school created by US in 1980s. So, technically, these jihadis are children of US too.

Even today, some of Islamic extremists are still receiving their training in US camps in Afghan.



As long as a nuclearized India is here, Pakistan is fully occupied.
Why you care so much about jihadi , i have seen you aligning well with those jihadi pigs on peedf , but that's for some other day .

First these pigs were rabid from their origin , 1971 war was before 1980 , and that was due to their true nature coming out , we didn't divided that country because we were free and bored , they started butchering minority from begining only , ahemadi who supported their islamist nation theiry are butchered now .

You and your winnie the pooh should mind your business , no need to white wash porks while you sre busy making them your colony
 

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You can argue this with P5. Oh, wait, China is one of P5.:tongue:




You can argue this with Mr Modi or every single India former PM.
P5 ?

China was a mistake which has only shamed the UNSC since its existence.

In terms of nuclear profileration truth is pakistan, Iran and North Korea all 3 disturbed volatile nuclear power got it due to China. Infact their role in funding global terrorism should be monitored too.

And recently they used Corona virus to attack the world. This is completely unacceptable and unforgiven .

If there is one country that needs to be punished most it's not Korea or pakistan but china and CCP. They are not just Most smelly and filthy people in the world but the most disgusting civilization to even exist.
 

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denuclearisation of pakistan is nearly impossible
Zulfikar ali Bhutto:- we'll eat grass but build an atomic bomb
 

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