DEFEXPO-2022

[Okabe Rintarou]

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155mm CCF

Funding was awarded for this project to Astra Microwave Pvt Ltd.

Development of Course Correction Fuze for Artillery | Technology Development Fund (TDF)

tdf.drdo.gov.in

Actuators will be on the round, right?

 

[Fatalis]

Tbh naval systems are mostly ignored in most of our defense exhibitions despite having fuck ton of shipyard most have little to none r&d capability and rely on navy for orders and designs

Yeah.

Atleast at DefExpo2020 there were models of P-17A.

This year the only thing which made me happy from naval side was the I-Mast.

 

[Fatalis]

Ya'll Nibbiars I have the Image of the NGMV, but I think it's another place holder so why even bother.

Upload it here.

 

[flanker99]

Yeah.

Atleast at DefExpo2020 there were models of P-17A.

This year the only thing which made me happy from naval side was the I-Mast.

Apart from some missiles and armored vehicles this years defexpo felt disappointing to me

 

[abingdonboy]

No news or post on naval systems.

Tbh Indian media is doing a terrible job of covering this event. It doesn’t seem like they have interviewed even 5% of participants and only seem to stick to the land systems indoor area.

the MoD organised a C17 to take down much of Delhi’s defence media but apparently most are just enjoying the free trip and not doing much coverage.

Haven’t even seen any videos of the DRDO MGS yet

maybe when the show is opened up to visitors it’ll bring more content

 

[abingdonboy]

There was news of signing of htt-40 after pm launching and 200 k-9 orders
There was also news about update on atags

Other than the ‘unveiling’ of a plastic HTT40 model and announcement of a new airbase in GJ, Modi’s speech delivered nothing.

don’t know why some were reporting there’d be announcements for C295 and K9

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Tbh Indian media is doing a terrible job of covering this event. It doesn’t seem like they have interviewed even 5% of participants and only seem to stick to the land systems indoor area.

the MoD organised a C17 to take down much of Delhi’s defence media but apparently most are just enjoying the free trip and not doing much coverage.

Haven’t even seen any videos of the DRDO MGS yet

maybe when the show is opened up to visitors it’ll bring more content

Next 2 days are my only hope of seeing hals drones

 

[Fatalis]

Apart from some missiles and armored vehicles this years defexpo felt disappointing to me

Not only that, you request people who are there, they simply ignore. But, I won't blame them.
Sigh

 

[omaebakabaka]

Yeah.

Atleast at DefExpo2020 there were models of P-17A.

This year the only thing which made me happy from naval side was the I-Mast.

VLSRAM from drdo or is that the one from LT?

 

[Fatalis]

VLSRAM from drdo or is that the one from LT?

Launcher is from L&T.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Funding was awarded for this project to Astra Microwave Pvt Ltd.

Development of Course Correction Fuze for Artillery | Technology Development Fund (TDF)

tdf.drdo.gov.in

Actuators will be on the round, right?

Nah everything is inside the fuze, just plug and fire .
To be honest I am a very little bit of disappointed that they went with this config if this is truly just a CCF with air brakes only that is only 1-D course correction. Equally aloof is the fact that they went with pgk for 81mm which is a 2D course correction due to its canards. Why don't just use same design for 155mm CCF .
For facts, there exists two types of CCF in market, one which provides 1-D course correction and the other which provides 2-D course correction, and the 2-D providing the best CEP of the two. While 1-D CCF may be cheaper and is a whole lot easier to implement than 2-D CCF.
Spacido is expamle of 1-D CCF while American PGK is an example of 2-D CCF

1-D CCF

2-D CCF

Ye lo kaam ka gyan, , first one is good

Approved for Public Release Presentation to 39 th Annual Gun/Ammo & Missiles/Rockets Conference Deconstruction of Fuze Well Guidance Requirements April. - ppt download

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Course Correcting Fuze (CCF)

The Excalibur 155mm Precision Guided Extended Range Artillery Projectile, also known as the M982 ER DPICM (Extended Range Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions) Projectile, is the Army's fire and forget, smart munition

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[SwordOfDarkness]

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I see APS on both.... Lovely that these things are becoming more common here.

 

[Fatalis]

Launcher Manufacturers	Missiles
Tata	Akash, AAD, PDV MRSAM-IA, MRSAM-IAF
L&T	Brahmos, QRSAM, VL-SRSAM
Electropneumatics	Akash-NG

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Nah everything is inside the fuze, just plug and fire .
To be honest I am a very little bit of disappointed that they went with this config if this is truly just a CCF with air brakes only that is only 1-D course correction. Equally aloof is the fact that they went with pgk for 81mm which is a 2D course correction due to its canards. Why don't just use same design for 155mm CCF .
For facts, there exists two types of CCF in market, one which provides 1-D course correction and the other which provides 2-D course correction, and the 2-D providing the best CEP of the two. While 1-D CCF may be cheaper and is a whole lot easier to implement than 2-D CCF.
Spacido is expamle of 1-D CCF while American PGK is an example of 2-D CCF

1-D CCF
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2-D CCF
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Ye lo kaam ka gyan, , first one is good

Approved for Public Release Presentation to 39 th Annual Gun/Ammo & Missiles/Rockets Conference Deconstruction of Fuze Well Guidance Requirements April. - ppt download

slideplayer.com

Course Correcting Fuze (CCF)

The Excalibur 155mm Precision Guided Extended Range Artillery Projectile, also known as the M982 ER DPICM (Extended Range Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions) Projectile, is the Army's fire and forget, smart munition

www.globalsecurity.org

Thanks for that presentation. Very informative. Maybe they'll further develop 2D or 3D CCF as well after completing 1D CCF development.

On an unrelated note, are there any specs or interview about the new ATAGS Mounted Gun System? I remember one poster about it read "automatic loading of rounds" or something. So is it like Archer MGS in that regard?

 

[omaebakabaka]

Launcher Manufacturers	Missiles
Tata	Akash, AAD, PDV MRSAM-IA, MRSAM-IAF
L&T	Brahmos, QRSAM, VL-SRSAM
Electropneumatics	Akash-NG

So no universal design to get a modular style plug in?

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

So no universal design to get a modular style plug in?

TBH, given how varied our AD is, trying to have a universal launch platform would just mean waste of space.

 

[omaebakabaka]

TBH, given how varied our AD is, trying to have a universal launch platform would just mean waste of space.

I think navy should consider it as it improves logistics and other benefits. AB's have it, and most countries producing their own are kinda moving towards it with different levels of success

 

[Fatalis]

I think navy should consider it as it improves logistics and other benefits. AB's have it, and most countries producing their own are kinda moving towards it with different levels of success

It's already kind of universal. Not the launcher but the canister. All the canisters for Akash-NG, QRSAM, VL-SRSAM are of same type.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

DRDO PAFC AIP Feature sheet.
Prototype capabilities proven to the end User and installation on Kalvari class SSK a work in progress.

 

[omaebakabaka]

It's already kind of universal. Not the launcher but the canister. All the canisters for Akash-NG, QRSAM, VL-SRSAM are of same type.

Sorry, I should have checked. Did not look like the one by LT can support bigger missiles not that I know the scale of it. Basically my understanding is that universal launchers are mix and match based on op profile of missiles.