Dalit PhD student Rohith Vemula commits suicide: Hyderabad University students cry foul

[punjab47]

@asingh10 exactly, & we're in the pind dealing with the fallout from these chutiyas.

Drug addicts are from all jaatis, these people don't want a 'caste' system (elite) they want a class system.

They don't give a fuck about some poor ksytria or brahmin. They sell us out, to gain some trinket like a retarded drunk red indian.

They fear us because, they know we can lead rebellions lol.

We're ones shudras respect & live with as brothers lol.

They hate that scs make us sarpanch despite reservation. xD

Look at Punjab, you have drug dealing Badal, gadar Patiala Sidhu, gadar giving Dyer saropa Mann, & some Bc comedian Mann.

Bhenchod with curly mustache but cut beard, taking diamonds to smuggle terrorists to kill my brothers.

I hope he gets tortured.

Considering how deep british royal family ties to heroin smuggling go, explains their support to Indira.

All Jarnail Singh really did was speak out against secular education & do nasha bandhi.

Difference between Badal & Modi is shown in first :

One is a chandarvanshi other a chai wala this shouldn't even be discussed.

One has had 1.5 years & has done miracles.

Other has literally made kabarastans of dead drug addicts in every tehsil.

He's been cm many many times..

No excuses, glad Pathankot attack finally exposed him.

I want BJP in punjab assembly, even though it's all fucked.

Jarnail Singh's men would kill barbers & butchers & a commander is responsible for his men.

BJP is full of too many liberal idiots whose basic belief is:

Woman is not baby machine.

If arms were allowed, you could at least have genuine meritocracy but I guess it will just be case of state slowly being confined to big metros & lawless countryside. Already like that slightly, as police are just goondas enforcing anti dharmic laws.

This state system is rotten, all these people want to do is sell our children to save themselves.

I don't trust or respect the uniform, or the flag. I just know many of the men are my brothers, so w/e

I'm not an intellectual beside Jattwad I don't have any solutions.

These daughter sellers though..

I could already see their aukaat when they were against christian re-conversion.

 

[asingh10]

@asingh10 exactly, & we're in the pind dealing with the fallout from these chutiyas.

Drug addicts are from all jaatis, these people don't want a 'caste' system (elite) they want a class system.

They don't give a fuck about some poor ksytria or brahmin. They sell us out, to gain some trinket like a retarded drunk red indian.

They fear us because, they know we can lead rebellions lol.

We're ones shudras respect & live with as brothers lol.

Champions of Social Justice do not want an India without castes, they want castes + class without Hinduism. They're all blue blooded Casteists. It's a good deal for them to maintain power. Pakistan is a far more casteist state than India is.

 

[Mad Indian]

Overwhelming mass of Hindu elite play vicious anti Hindu role anywhere, check out Kashmiri Pandit advisors of Nehru, Indira.

Look at the media - Dutt, Sardesai, Goswami, Ghose, Roy, Chaturvedi, Thapars, Dwivedi, Sharmas and what not

Look at Bollywood - inundated with Punjabi Khatri dhimmis from W.Pak, more recently some SI & Hindi belt Brahmins. Literally 4 generations of the same family running the show :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapoor_family

Look at Commies in academics - I see Punjabi Khatri and Bong Bhadralok last names.

CPI Polit Bureau - 0 Dalit members in 40 years that it ruled Bengal.

AAP = India's first UC only party. Give nice lectures but when it comes to distribution of power, all posts go to paliwaal, maliwaal ie Kejri's own castemen or khatris. Then a few rajputs, brahmins, muslims thrown into the mix.

Nearly all secular parties have ex-raja rajwadas and dynasties who collaborated with British. Including the major opposition party today where all power is limited to 1 family.

Dig deeper and you start finding out how much of a fraud liberal politics in India is.

I expect this post to be fully and consciously ignored by many forumers here

 

[asingh10]

@asingh10
BJP is full of too many liberal idiots whose basic belief is:

Woman is not baby machine.
.

She isn't, a woman is not a cattle.

TFR is not the problem in itself, I was wrong.

The Hans have a TFR *well* below replacement rate yet they certainly stand a better chance because they aren't into self loathing and pussy footing about national security issues.

If you can't deal with the problem at 8:2 ratio, then you sure as hell aren't likely to deal with it at 9:1.

 

[A chauhan]

Champions of Social Justice do not want an India without castes, they want castes + class without Hinduism. They're all blue blooded Casteists. It's a good deal for them to maintain power...

Well said, you summed it up in one line, those who are protesting and shouting for this idiot dead chap, calling every Hindu casteist will not leave their "caste-reservation" at any cost, they will do tamasha and die for more % of reservation but won't leave their special status.

Leftist+Communists+Imported religions are fueling a divide in Indian society so that Hindus could be dethroned.Sadly many have fallen into this trap and many are ready to fall.

Though I don't know which category Kejriwal actually falls

 

[Mad Indian]

http://yugaparivartan.com/2016/01/19/india-should-stop-turning-criminals-like-rohit-into-martyrs/

It is disgusting to watch news and look at the way presstitutes are handling the suicide of a terrorist sympathising anti-national college hooligan just because he belongs to lower caste. Rohit Vemula and his fellow leftist hooligans had organised a protest inside the campus in support of the terrorist Yakub Menon, who was responsible for bombing more than 200 people in Mumbai terrorist attacks. When some students in his college wrote on Facebook exposing these anti-national students, he and his fellow leftist hooligans beat up those students. The students who were the actual victims of the hooliganism of this guy and his fellow thugs, complained to the college management about this misbehaviour. Taking strict action, the college management then suspended this groups of thugs for goondaism inside college premises.

But for obvious reasons the media presstitutes have chosen to completely ignore the sequence of events that led to the suicide of this anti national thug and are now painting a false picture of poor dalit student getting uneven treatment by upper caste university management because telling the truth would not help their anti national agenda. What’s worse is that they are now trying to pin the blame of suicide on the Vice Chancellor of the university, who in all fairness was more than generous in handling this issue. This reasoning is ridiculous but then again we never expected sane arguments from the leftist anti nationals?

Firstly, it is difficult to forces anyone to commit suicide. Trying to push this narrative that this anti-national thug was forced into suicide by VC is just ridiculous. The only people, who could have vested interest in Rohit’s suicide, are his other fellow suspended comrades or Ambedkar Students Association (ASA), the organization behind the protest in support of Yakub Menon. They are the ones who are now getting cheap publicity by forcing a student commit suicide. This sequence of events is similar to the suicide that was staged in Kejriwal’s rally a year ago. Secondly, the guy in question is not innocent by any means and his punishment was not out of proportion to what he did. In fact, the management was lenient when he was left with just expulsion from hostel instead of expelling him and his fellow hooligans from college outright.

Supporting terrorism and indulging in hooliganism is not innocence. Being a dalit does not give leeway to engage in anti-national activities nor does it give him any right to indulge in rowdyism inside college. In fact what the VC did was actually very mild compared to what this anti-national rat deserved- he and his fellow anti nationals should have been expelled from college instead of being expelled just from hostel for beating up other students based on a facebook post. But no, for some reason, his dalit identity is given as an excuse for his anti-national activities and the media presstitutes want us to overlook this misbehaviour.

This is unacceptable behaviour from the media as well as the students now engaged in protest. And as usual, all the anti-national politicians from Kejriwal to Rahul Gandhi are ganging up to visit this thugs’ funeral and turn him into some sort of hero. As a society how does it make sense to turn an anti-national rowdy into a hero post suicide? And where were these dalit saving brigade including Rahul Gandhi and Kejriwal when dalit houses and shops were burnt in Malda and dalit Hindus were forced out of their homes?

We will go further and say that the students who are currently protesting against the VC for his action against the anti-national like Rohit Vemula are just supporting an anti-national unlawful rowdy masquerading as a student. Such students should be strictly punished, with suspension and expulsion if necessary so that such anti-national politics are not condoned in the future. Our govt. should make it very clear that no one has any right to indulge in any anti-national activity and caste identity does not give a free pass for such behaviour.

Any leniency on the students protesting in favour of the anti national rowdy will only set a bad precedent for such anti-national goondaist activities inside the universities and will lead to further worsening of law and order and academic environment in the universities. So the govt. needs to nip this nuisance in its bud. We don’t want all our universities to turn into anti-national factories like JNU. One JNU is more than enough to fulfil our suicidal tendency of supporting anti-national ideologies.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

The recent suicide of Rohit Vemula, a student at Hyderabad University has taken the country through storm. The popular narration peddled by the media is that the poor student was pushed to commit suicide due to discriminatory action by the university administration in response to political vandalism exhibited by Vemula and his peers associated with Ambedkar Students Association (ASA). We will not go into the details of the incident as you can read them here. To summarize, Vemula and five other students were expelled from the university after beating up another fellow student and later the punishment was reduced to expulsion from hostel. Since then, these students were protesting against university action and probably under stress. Post suicide, the ASA, media and other political parties are trying to bring in dalit angle in this incident by complaining that students were given harsh punishment due to their dalit identity, a fact which is debatable.

In the following paragraphs, we will not be dissecting this particular incident but talk specifically about how Ambedkar would have been pained by his name being used by anti-national and anti-dalit organizations like ASA, Ambedkar Periyar Study Circle (APSC) etc. Secondly and more importantly, we will like to throw some light on how dalit politics is hijacked by anti-national leftists and Marxists in India and why dalits and specifically SC/ST and OBC students should stay away from the politics of such organizations. Under the garb of dalit identity, these organizations headed by upper caste Hindus (check yourself that top leaders of left parties like CPI(M) etc. are almost always Brahmins or upper castes) want to exploit the fault lines present in Hindu society to further their own agenda and trap poor dalit students in ugly college level politics.

First, let me ask a few questions about history to get started. Who was the prominent Hindu leader in favour of partition of India before Congress succumbed under Jinnah’s pressure? Who was the prominent leader and wanted proper population exchange at the time of partition and thought without total population exchange Hindus will get a bad deal under partition as it will leave the cancer of Islam untreated? Again, unlike Congress leaders and Gandhi who was holding all faith prayers at the time of independence, which leader realized the true destructive nature of Islam that we fail to acknowledge even today after seeing events like Malda and Muzzafarnagar? If you guessed correctly: the answer to all the above questions is Ambedkar. Among the idealists and other crazy national leaders, Ambedkar was the one of the few rational thinkers and realists in 1947. A brief summary of Ambedkar’s views about partition is presented here.

Post-independence Ambedkar has been digested by the left and his legacy has been reduced to a dalit thinker. This has been done because Ambedkar’s views were vehemently against Abrahamics (both Islam and Christianity) and state control of the economy. These other identities of Ambedkar have been carefully suppressed by the leftist intelligentsia and is one of the reasons that most celebrated dalit intellectuals today, who are promoted by the media and universities like JNU, demand govt. control of the economy and side with Abrahmics wherever possible. It would take a complete article to present Ambedkar’s views on economics because he was a trained economist and wrote extensively in favour of market economy. In this article we will restrict ourselves to his views about Abhrahmics. His opinion about Islam is as hard-hitting today as it was 70 years ago. In his book on partition of India, he wrote:

Read more here: http://yugaparivartan.com/2016/01/19/why-dalits-should-stay-away-from-suicidal-leftist-politics/

 

[asingh10]

Communist Party of India endorsed the Muslim League and the Pakistan Movement. Needs to be discussed.

 

[raja696]

Can you see any pattern here in the list of names all from UK and USA.

I really cant believe that these professors, asst professors of culture, religion, political, anthropology are so dumb.... hence there students will be too




http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...of-university-of-hyderabad/article8124405.ece
The involvement of political leaders in buttressing caste discrimination in Indian universities, and the double standards applied by university administrations to anti-caste student activity, directly contribute to the negative reputation India is earning among scholars worldwide. We urge the University of Hyderabad to restore our confidence by living up to its obligation to end institutionalized discrimination, to educate all students in a climate of respect and empathy, and to resist political pressures to do otherwise. We are all watching.



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2. Joel Lee, Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Williams College, USA

3. Dwaipayan Sen, Assistant Professor of History, Amherst College, USA

4. Nathaniel Roberts, Research Fellow, Max Planck Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity, Germany

5. Gajendran Ayyathurai, Postdoctoral Researcher, University of Göttingen, Germany

6. David Mosse, Professor, SOAS University of London, UK.

7. Karthikeyan Damodaran, PhD Scholar, University of Edinburgh.

8. Hugo Gorringe, Senior Lecturer, University of Edinburgh.

9. T. Dharmaraj, Visiting Professor, Centre for Modern Indian Studies, University of Göttingen.

10. Ania Loomba, Professor, University of Pennsylvania, USA.

11. Lalit Vachani, Research Fellow, Center for Modern Indian Studies, University of Göttingen, Germany

12. Srirupa Roy, Professor of State and Democracy, Center for Modern Indian Studies, University of Göttingen, Germany

13. Christophe Jaffrelot, Dr., CERI-Sciences Po/CNRS, Paris, France

14. Suvir Kaul, A. M. Rosenthal Professor, University of Pennsylvania, USA

15. Frank J. Korom, Professor of Religion and Anthropology, Boston University, USA

16. John Harriss, Professor, Simon Fraser University, Canada

17. Dilip Menon, Professor and Director, Centre for Indian Studies, University of Witwatersrand, South Africa

18. Raka Ray, Professor of Sociology and South and Southeast Asian Studies, University of California, Berkeley, USA.

19. Jonathan Spencer, Regius Professor of South Asian Language, Culture and Society, University of Edinburgh, UK

20. Constantine Nakassis, Assistant Professor of Anthropology, University of Chicago, USA

21. Sankaran Krishna, Professor of Political Science, University of Hawaii-Manoa, USA

22. Chandra Mallampalli, Professor of History, Westmont College, USA

23. Timothy Lubin, Professor, Washington and Lee University, USA

24. Linda Hess, Senior Lecturer, Stanford University, USA

25. Auritro Majumder, Assistant Professor, University of Houston, USA

26. P. Bagavandoss, Professor, Department of Biological Sciences, Kent State University, USA.

27. Shirin Rai, Professor of Politics and International Studies, University of Warwick, UK.

28. Indira Arumugam, Assistant Professor of Sociology, National University of Singapore

29. Michele Friedner, Assistant Professor, Stony Brook University, New York, USA

30. Dibyesh Anand, Associate Professor, University of Westminster, UK

31. Ravinder Kaur, Associate Professor, University of Copenhagen, Denmark.

32. James Caron, Lecturer in Islamicate South Asia, SOAS, University of London, UK.

33. Francis Cody, Associate Professor of Anthropology, University of Toronto, Canada.

34. Christopher Taylor, Assistant Professor of English, University of Chicago, USA

35. Alpa Shah, Associate Professor (Reader) of Anthropology, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK.

36. Bishnupriya Ghosh, Professor of English, University of California, Santa Barbara

37. Gloria Goodwin Raheja, Professor of Anthropology, University of Minnesota, USA

38. Anjali Arondekar, Associate Professor of Feminist Studies, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA

39. Nosheen Ali, Habib University, Karachi

40. Vazira Zamindar, Associate Professor of History, Brown University, USA

41. Kavita Philip, Professor of History, University of California at Irvine, USA

42. Bhavani Raman, Associate Professor, University of Toronto, Canada.

43. Subir Sinha, Development Studies, SOAS, London, UK.

44. Francesca Orsini, Professor, SOAS, London, UK.

45. Gilbert Achcar, Professor, SOAS, London, UK.

46. Nilanjan Sarkar, Deputy Director, South Asia Center, LSE, UK.

47. Jon Wilson, Senior Lecturer in History, King’s College, London, UK.

48. Peter van der Veer, Director and Professor at the Max Planck Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity, Göttingen, Germany.

49. Tam Ngo, Researcher, Max-Planck-Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity, Göttingen, Germany

50. Shakuntala Banaji, Lecturer, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

51. Meena Dhanda, Reader in Philosophy and Cultural Politics, University of Wolverhampton, UK

52. Goldie Osuri, Associate Professor of Sociology, University of Warwick, UK.

53. Shana Sippy, Visiting Scholar, Carleton College, USA

54. Sarah Hodges, Associate Professor, University of Warwick, UK

55. Mukulika Banerjee, Associate Professor of Anthropology and Director, South Asia Centre, London School of Economics, UK

56. Paula Chakravartty, Associate Professor, MCC and Galatin, New York University, USA

57. Narendra Subramanian, Professor of Political Science, McGill University, Canada, and Visiting Senior Research Fellow, Max-Planck-Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity, Göttingen, Germany.

58. Gurminder K Bhambra, Professor, University of Warwick

59. Rashmi Varma, Associate Professor, University of Warwick, UK

60. Uday Chandra, Assistant Professor of Government, Georgetown University, Qatar

61. Anupama Rao, Associate Professor of History, Barnard College, Columbia University, USA

62. Neena Mahadev, Postdoctoral Fellow, Max Planck Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity, Germany.

63. Nusrat S Chowdhury, Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Amherst College, USA

64. Kavin Paulraj, Lecturer, Saint Mary's College of California, USA

65. Asiya Alam, History Department, Louisiana State University, USA

66. Ananya Chakravarti, assistant professor of history, Georgetown University

67. Jesse Knutson, Assistant Professor of Sanskrit, University of Hawaii Manoa

68. Gopal Balakrishnan Professor, History of Consciousness, University of California Santa Cruz, USA

69. Geir Heierstad, Research Director, Norwegian Institute for Urban and Regional Research, Norway

70. Kenneth Bo Nielsen, Coordinator, Norwegian Network for Asian Studies, Norway.

71. Andrew Liu, Assistant Professor of History, Villanova University, USA

72. Toussaint Losier, Assistant Professor of Afro-American Studies, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, USA.

73. Pinky Hota, Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Smith College, Northampton MA

74. Madhumita Lahiri, Assistant Professor of English, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, USA

75. Juned Shaikh, Assistant Professor, Department of History, University of California, Santa Cruz

76. Neilesh Bose, Canada Research Chair in Global and Comparative History University of Victoria

77. Lawrence Cohen, Professor and Director, Institute of South Asia Studies, University of California, Berkeley, USA

78. John Holmwood, Professor of Sociology, University of Nottingham, UK.

79. Balmurli Natrajan, Associate Professor, William Paterson University of New Jersey, USA.

80. Richard Alexander, Lecturer in Financial Law, SOAS University of London, UK.

81. Eleanor Newbigin, Senior Lecturer, SOAS, University of London

82. Chinnaiah Jangam, Assistant Professor of History, Carleton University, Canada.

83. Matthew J Nelson, Reader in Politics, SOAS, University of London.

84. Sîan Hawthorne, Lecturer in Critical Theory & the Study of Religions, SOAS, London, UK.

85. Amrita Shodhan, SOAS, University of London, UK.

86. Michael Hutt Professor and Director, SOAS South Asia Institute, University of London, UK

87. Jonathan Goodhand, Professor in Conflict and Development Studies, SOAS, University of London, UK

88. Nitasha Kaul, Author and academic, University of Westminster, London.

89. Deepankar Basu, Associate Professor, University of Massachusetts, Amherst.

90. Somak Biswas, Doctoral Candidate, Department of History, University of Warwick, UK

91. Michael Levien, Assistant Professor of Sociology, Johns Hopkins University, USA

92. Nilisha Vashist, M.Phil/PhD student, University College London, UK

93. Rama Mantena, Associate Professor of History, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA

94. Sohini Kar, Assistant Professor, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

95. Dr. Jacob Copeman, Social Anthropology, University of Edinburgh.

96. Dr. Priyamvada Gopal, Cambridge University, UK.

97. Carole Spary, Assistant Professor, University of Nottingham, UK.

98. James Putzel, Professor of Development Studies, LSE, UK.

99. Romola Sanyal, Assistant Professor, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

100. Dr Barnita Bagchi, Literary Studies, Utrecht University, Netherlands.

101. Dag Erik Berg, Postdoctoral Fellow, Center for Modern Indian Studies, University of Göttingen, Germany.

102. Dr Kalpana Wilson, London School of Economics, UK

103. Chetan Bhatt, Professor, Department of Sociology, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

104. Rahul Rao, Senior Lecturer in Politics, SOAS, University of London, UK

105. Dr Alan Bullion, The Open University, UK

106. Katharine Adeney, Professor and Director of the Institute of Asia and Pacific Studies, University of Nottingham, UK

107. Dr. Mara Matta, Modern Literatures of the Indian Subcontinent, SAPIENZA Università di Roma, Italy

108. Pritam Singh, Professor of Economics, Oxford Brookes University, UK.

109. Dr. Sunil Kumar, Lecturer, London School of Economics, UK

110. Maitreesh Ghatak, Professor of Economics, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

111. Richa Nagar, Professor, University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, USA

112. Mary Kaldor, Professor, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

113. David Lewis, Professor of Social Policy, London School of Economics and Political Science, UK

114. Dr. Suthaharan Nadarajah, Lecturer, SOAS, University of London

115. Dr. Navtej Purewal, SOAS, University of London, UK

116. Shruti Sinha, Toulouse School of Economics, France.

117. Robert Cassen, Professor

118. Apurba Kundu, Deputy Dean, Anglia Ruskin University, UK.

119. Rachel McDermott, Associate Professor of Religion, Barnard College, Columbia University, USA.

120. Dr. Clarinda Still, Contemporary South Asian Studies Programme, University of Oxford, UK

121. Chad M. Bauman, Associate Professor of Religion, Butler University, USA.

122. Nandini Bhattacharya, Lecturer in History, University of Dundee, UK

123. Vijay Prashad, Professor, Trinity College, USA and Chief Editor, LeftWord Books.

124. Lucinda Ramberg, Assistant Professor, Cornell University, USA.

125. Pippa Virdee, Senior Lecturer in Modern South Asian History, De Montfort University, UK.

126. Andrew J. Nicholson, Associate Professor, State University of New York, Stony Brook

127. Dr. Teena Purohit, Department of Religion, Boston University.

128. Sahana Bajpaie, Instructor in Bengali, SOAS, University of London, UK.

129. M. V. Ramana, Physicist, Princeton University







Keywords: University of Hyderabad, suicide, Rohith Vemula

 

[sydsnyper]

Your posts are really rich and interesting to read. Please always continue to write here and never mind if someone tries to get under your skin.

@Rashna was one such member, she used to write here pretty frequently, but don't see much of her anymore. There are many more whom I enjoy reading !!!

Actually your news article itself mentions the solution to this problem : Stop treating them with kid gloves.

A bunch of Naxals were going to have a screening of anti-national propaganda, the institute didn't allow them to do so. When they tried to cause trouble, the institute put their foot down and asked them to vacate the premises. This is the best way to solve the problem; Nip it in the bud before it becomes a full fledged anti-national lobby group like Jamia and JNU. Anyway, Central government is going to take away the minority status of Jamia and AMU. There is no need for my hard earned tax money to be spent on jihadi institutions could have their little anti-national circlejerks. If they want to run minority institutions, let them fund it with minority money. We are a secular nation, we can't be seen as favoring any particular religion. Next, we should stop Haj, subsidies, why? because we are secular nation. We have already stopped pampering the FTII Naxals and they have been asked to collect their leaving certificates and stop being a burden on the taxpayer. Tax-payer funded institutions cannot be used for anti-national purposes.

The reason they loved sickularism is because it allowed them to be a parasite on Hindu tax money. Start following the French model of secularism and these snakes will get straightened within no time. No Burqa, no Haj subsidies, no reservations.

Welcome to Secularism ver. 2.0.

 

[kr9]

Communist Party of India endorsed the Muslim League and the Pakistan Movement. Needs to be discussed.

But, based on ideology (as I understand regarding the original notes by Karl Marx), aren't communist ideals against religion, class discrimination, and commercial exploitation. Wasn't that the whole reason for the cold war & the denunciation of the Soviet Union by the Vatican?

I would appreciate any thoughts/clarity on this subject.

 

[Rowdy]

But, based on ideology (as I understand regarding the original notes by Karl Marx), aren't communist ideals against religion, class discrimination, and commercial exploitation. Wasn't that the whole reason for the cold war & the denunciation of the Soviet Union by the Vatican?

I would appreciate any thoughts/clarity on this subject.

LOL..... this can be easily understood by going one layer deeper.
What you wrote is classical Marxism... and revolt against religion was a tool to incite CLASS WARFARE.
Moderm marxism is much better defined by its(Marxism's) kernel , CLASS WARFARE.
different social and ethnic/racial etc etc. classes always against each other.
The end goal of class warfare is social atomization which increases the power of authority on citizenry. The bribe paid to the commoner is socialism, ie. getting something without doing anything.

 

[DingDong]

Ultimately everything boils down to "Survival of the Fittest". Hindu Right Wing doesn't seem to be fit enough to survive. There goes BJP's Dalit Vote.

 

[kr9]

LOL..... this can be easily understood by going one layer deeper.
What you wrote is classical Marxism... and revolt against religion was a tool to incite CLASS WARFARE.
Moderm marxism is much better defined by its(Marxism's) kernel , CLASS WARFARE.
different social and ethnic/racial etc etc. classes always against each other.
The end goal of class warfare is social atomization which increases the power of authority on citizenry. The bribe paid to the commoner is socialism, ie. getting something without doing anything.

Thanks.
Our education system teaches us one thing & in reality, we see something else - a perverted version that suits a few.

 

[DingDong]

The ABVP activist who was assaulted by these suicidal commies was a Mahadalit.

Award Wapsi Gang is back in action, seems like Elections are near.

 

[Rowdy]

Thanks.
Our education system teaches us one thing & in reality, we see something else - a perverted version that suits a few.

LOL .. yeah.. and this helps you make sense of Feminism too ... I mean l know women from poor families who work and earn bread just like a man , they have no Idea what feminism is ...
Feminism is a wing of Marxism ... but the shift is subtle ... when whining for attention feminists use the very real Issue of womens rights, when grasping for power they always move towards more Marxism... e.g. Easy divorce , free sex , etc etc ...

 

[asingh10]

LOL..... this can be easily understood by going one layer deeper.
What you wrote is classical Marxism... and revolt against religion was a tool to incite CLASS WARFARE.
Moderm marxism is much better defined by its(Marxism's) kernel , CLASS WARFARE.
different social and ethnic/racial etc etc. classes always against each other.
The end goal of class warfare is social atomization which increases the power of authority on citizenry. The bribe paid to the commoner is socialism, ie. getting something without doing anything.

You should really see the movie Agora. Class warfare was very much the kernel of early Xtianity as well. Pagan polemicists call it a religion of slaves & young morons.

 

[Peter]

Overwhelming mass of Hindu elite play vicious anti Hindu role anywhere, check out Kashmiri Pandit advisors of Nehru, Indira.

Look at the media - Dutt, Sardesai, Goswami, Ghose, Roy, Chaturvedi, Thapars, Dwivedi, Sharmas and what not

Look at Bollywood - inundated with Punjabi Khatri dhimmis from W.Pak, more recently some SI & Hindi belt Brahmins. Literally 4 generations of the same family running the show :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapoor_family

Look at Commies in academics - I see Punjabi Khatri and Bong Bhadralok last names.

CPI Polit Bureau - 0 Dalit members in 40 years that it ruled Bengal.

AAP = India's first UC only party. Give nice lectures but when it comes to distribution of power, all posts go to paliwaal, maliwaal ie Kejri's own castemen or khatris. Then a few rajputs, brahmins, muslims thrown into the mix.

Nearly all secular parties have ex-raja rajwadas and dynasties who collaborated with British. Including the major opposition party today where all power is limited to 1 family.

Dig deeper and you start finding out how much of a fraud liberal politics in India is.

asingh10 sir,

A little learning is indeed a dangerous thing.

Ghosh is not a higher caste title. They fall under Bengali OBC(mahisyas) and one sub-caste(Jaliya Mahisyas) are even in SC list.

As for CPI polit bureau. The former minister of education Shri Kanti Biswas belonged to NamaShudra caste which falls under SC list. Technically he may not be of Dalit varna(there are very few Dalits in Bengal as most of them have converted to Islam) as he is from Shudra varna but he is SC anyway. Also there are other CPM members like him including our DD sir from JU. All this comes out after I dug a bit deeper.:biggrin2:

Stating half truths and whole lies certainly does not help one`s cause. One should stick to facts rather than resorting to mindless yellow journalism.

As for Bong bhadraloks even people with my surname Maitra have stood for the downtrodden people.(Kashi Kanta Maitra being one.) In Bengal there is hardly any casteism.

 

[Peter]

Anyway it is very disheartening to observe that the shameless politicians are trivializing his death just for their own electoral gains. The Congress/Left and co. are turning this to a Dalit issue and attacking BJP. On the other hand BJP is busy finding out whether Vemula is half or full Dalit.

The sad part is that it was this very notion of reducing a human being to a mere object,as a vote bank, which Vemula vehemently opposed. That he objected against the objectification of Dalits as a vote is quite clear in his suicide note. I hope India can get rid of this pseudo people friendly political parties and instead have a true nationalist party. In this regard I think Congress(the so called Dalit friendly party) should be the first party that should be thrown out of India.

 

[Peter]

I expect this post to be fully and consciously ignored by many forumers here

Please do read my rebuttal to the quoted post of yours.