Civil war in Ukraine

[arpakola]

Arpakola, at least the Ukrainian have put up more fight than you put against Germans in 1940-41.

Greek Resistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://www.google.gr/search?q=the+...pO5Cf7gavyoDYCQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1189&bih=758

Military history of Greece during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Greece entered World War II on 28 October 1940
Greece finaly occupied April 30 1941

It took almost one year to the AXIS poweres - Italy and Germany to manage to occupy Greece. That essential year was critical as the "plan barbarosa" was delayed until June 1941 with the result the germans to be captured outside Moscow by the Russian winter. In a way we contribute greatly to win the war.
http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/9152/...e-of-all-Greek-POWs-for-their-gallant-bearing

Also Greece was the FIRST Country that refused to let Fascists-NAZI to enter , offering strong resistance for almost one year (remember the France - belgians - Scadinavs - etc..)
here is the opinion of Chushill

Also after the occupation the GREEK resistance was the strongest in Europe and more orgainised (ΕΛΑΣ) . Greece suffered one million dead (out of 4-5 milion at that time) . part of the army was transfered to Egypt participating in great number in the battle of El Alamein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein_order_of_battle ,same our fleet , including an old battle ship AVEROF, participated in a lot of missions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_cruiser_Georgios_Averof
Greek Subs like Papanikolis

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_submarine_Papanikolis_(Y-2) Coming under the command of Lieutenant Nikolaos Roussen, the submarine went into another patrol in November, offloading men and equipment at Crete. On 30 November, Papanikolis successfully ambushed and sank an 8,000-ton cargo vessel at the Alimnia islet, near Rhodes. On 17 January 1943, after carrying agents and equipment to Hydra, she captured the 200-ton sailing vessel Agios Stefanos and manned her with part of her crew, which sailed her to Alexandria, while the next day, she sank another 150-ton sailer. During subsequent patrols in March and May, she sank further 4 sailers, totaling 450 tons.....
Papanikolis survived the war and returned to Greece after liberation in October 1944.

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Of course after all those the thank you we received was the Invasion of Brits after the war , they invated Athens .. that ignited a civil war until 1949 resulting a lot of Greeks to find refuge to Soviet Union at that time..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Civil_War

so please next time you refer to a place outside the safety of the Scadinavia .. try to make some reading first..

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ok back to Donbass now...

 

[arpakola]

BREAKING news
There was an attack at the recruiting offices of the city Vysokopole in Herson

They captured weaponary and released all recruits of the center

 

[Dhairya Yadav]

I some days ago heard Prime Minister of Ukraine saying the crisis is coming to end ... Has the ground situation improved even slightly?

 

[jouni]

For all due respect, it took germans from 6th April to 27th April to take Greece... lets leave this to this

Ps. Greeks leaving for Soviet Union after civil war was new to me, now I understand your view on Ukraine better. It is like the Finnish leftist politicians who are now pro Russia, even if in current Russia is a far right government. They don't care about socialism, they just love the power...
@arpakola

 

[Akim]

@arpakola
The separatists have in any country, even in Greece. The airport is defenced, because it is a strategic point. He is not surrounded. It protects only a few hundred people (spetsnaz and paratroopers). There is rotation of personnel.
I don't give a spit (насрать, так точнее) for your opinion, because you are brave only in the distance. Sitting on a warm sofa and I on Saturday trenches dug near the v. Mayaki.

 

[arpakola]

For all due respect, it took germans from 6th April to 27th April to take Greece... lets leave this to this
Ps. Greeks leaving for Soviet Union after CV was new to me, now I understand your view on Ukraine better.

You cannot isolate the AXIS attack against Greece.
It was a jointed attack , where most of the Greek army was occupied in operations in Albania against Mousolini forces. So please take in account that we enter the war 28Th Oct 1940 - occupied April 1041.. This is the fact , like it or not
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There is much more on this story, starting from

Vladimir the Great met the Greek Byzandine king of Konstantinople Basil II and he desided to marry his daughter ANNA accepting also Christianity and ever sinse KIEV Russ were allies to the Greek Byzantine empire.
Also Ivan Grosny married an other Byzantine princes Sofia PaliologinaSophia Palaiologina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

During the Ottoman occupation of Greece many Greeks (and Armenians) found refuge to Russia , mainly in the area of Odessa and Marioupole (still 10s of thousands live there)
The Greek revolution started as a secret sosciety in Odessa (Filiki Eteria) by GreeK intelectuals and merchands. Filiki Eteria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Greek officeres during the Turkish occupation served in the Russian army and later participated in the Greek revolution of 1821. In the sea Greek admirals were leading the Russian fleet during the Russian - Turkish war and many awarded by Ekaterine and others like Varvakis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Varvakis) and Labros Katsonis.
The first prime minister of Greece after the liberation from Turks 1830 , was Kapodistrias a GREEK of diaspora and Foreign minister of the Russian goverment.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Kapodistrias
Russia is the only country that supported Cyprus after the Turkish occupation and it was the first country that the brand new S300 was exported almost 15 years ago. (later given to Greece) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7dX1seRAc
Vlad Putin is a regular visitor of the Greek Orthodox monasteries at Agio oros (holy moyntain - Athos) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Athos

also The Deputy Prime Minister of the republic of Crimea >> OLga Kovitidi is of Greek origin, speaking Greek etc.

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Ι can count many more .. but the real reason is that Putins Russia today is the only country that gives a break to the totalitarianism of the wolf pack of NATO..

 

[arpakola]

@<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/member.php?u=15166" target="_blank">arpakola</a>
The separatists have in any country, even in Greece. The airport is defenced, because it is a strategic point. He is not surrounded. It protects only a few hundred people (spetsnaz and paratroopers). There is rotation of personnel.
I don't give a spit (насрать, так точнее) for your opinion, because you are brave only in the distance. Sitting on a warm sofa and I on Saturday trenches dug near the v. Mayaki.

the sad thing is that their last rotation will be 2 meter below ground.. (RIP)

Major update about battle for Donetsk airport. Don't have much time, so this is a google-translate with some fixes


By the 6th of October, Donetsk airport have mostly come under the control of the DPR army. Survived pockets of resistance and shelling from Avdeyevka can bother, but can not return the control over the object to junta. However, given the fact that the airport should have been to given to DPR anyway, according to the results of Minsk's plot, it's pretty feeble achievment.
Casualties in the battle for the airport are about 80 people, plus a significant number of wounded. 9 armored vehicles have been lost or damaged. The junta has lost in the last battles for the airport 220 killed, quantity of wounded is unknown and all vehicles in the airport as well. Junta, despite already obvious outcome of the battles, continues to droll and requires to surrender 6 cities in exchange for the airport. Shooting certainly will continue but only in local battles. The victory has been achieved de facto, but whether it would be a Pyrrhic victory is still a question. Motorola's squad once again showed their skills and luck in the hardest areas - Slavic, Nykolaivka, Miusinsk, Ilovajsk, Donetsk Airport - less than half a year, his unit visited some of the hottest points of the war and achieved success everywhere, not only in offensive, but in the defensive battles, even having to get out of the environment under Nykolaivka. In general, where Motorola, there is victory. Givi's squad from Ilovaysk also made "‹"‹a significant contribution to the struggle for the airport. General Petrovsky and artillery brigade "Kalmius" played important roles as well. Not without some flawls but tankers from "Oplot brigade" also have proven themselves well supporting infantry attack.
Offensive of junta's forces is expected today or tomorrow, the troops on the territory of Donetsk and on the whole Novorossia People's Republic are on high alert. Among the signs of impending strike near Donetsk is increased activity of reconnaissance drones, the concentration of mechanized units and the creation of artillery fists, while equipping fortified areas on the secondary directions. The main problem facing is shortage of ammunition for heavy weapons and modern anti-tank weapons. In spite of losses suffered by junta in August and September, its people and technology isno longer so egregious as in July, but the whole army of Novorussia is still inferior to the junta in the variety and quanity of heavy weapons.
Control over most of the border has been entrusted to different territorial Cossack units who actually play the role of the Border Service. In principle, given the low combat stability of the majority of Cossack units, this is quite an decent decision, as their presence allows to transfer more stable units to the main front and provide some order on the border. Some of these parts are already transfered to the People's Republic of Lugansk border guards, that is in fact is the formation of the united Border Service. It's all logical - against the backdrop of attempts to demarcate the border with the Nazi-occupied Ukraine, People's Republic of continuing to work on the establishement of the normal border with Russia.
Izvarino's commandant, nom de guerre "105th", was removed from his office. Now the border area with Russia is maintained by battalion "August", which is part of the People's Republic of Lugansk border guards. In the spring and summer of this year, "105th" played a major role in ensuring the non-governmental logistics channels of Russia in Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republic in the most critical days of the New Russia.
Within 1-1.5 weeks, finally, the Military Councilwill be held , which will be visited by most respected army commanders of New Russia, who must decide how to build armed forces of the unrecognized Novorossia. The event is naturally belatedly for 3 months, but as the saying goes, better late than never.
About volunteers for the army, their numbers are growing, both local and volunteers from Russia and other countries. Comparing with an increase in August, early September, the growth fell by 30-40%, but people still arrive. Mostly they join Mozgovoy, "strelkov's" units and to cossack ataman Kozitsyn.\

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[jouni]

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You cannot isolate the AXIS attack against Greece.
It was a jointed attack , where most of the Greek army was occupied in operations in Albania against Mousolini forces. So please take in account that we enter the war 28Th Oct 1940 - occupied April 1041.. This is the fact , like it or not
===================================

There is much more on this story, starting from

Vladimir the Great met the Greek Byzandine king of Konstantinople Basil II and he desided to marry his daughter ANNA accepting also Christianity and ever sinse KIEV Russ were allies to the Greek Byzantine empire.
Also Ivan Grosny married an other Byzantine princes Sofia PaliologinaSophia Palaiologina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

During the Ottoman occupation of Greece many Greeks (and Armenians) found refuge to Russia , mainly in the area of Odessa and Marioupole (still 10s of thousands live there)
The Greek revolution started as a secret sosciety in Odessa (Filiki Eteria) by GreeK intelectuals and merchands. Filiki Eteria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Greek officeres during the Turkish occupation served in the Russian army and later participated in the Greek revolution of 1821. In the sea Greek admirals were leading the Russian fleet during the Russian - Turkish war and many awarded by Ekaterine and others like Varvakis (Ioannis Varvakis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and Labros Katsonis.
The first prime minister of Greece after the liberation from Turks 1830 , was Kapodistrias a GREEK of diaspora and ex minister of the Russian goverment.
Russia is the only country that supported Cyprus after the Turkish occupation and it was the first country that the brand new S300 was exported almost 15 years ago. (later given to Greece) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7dX1seRAc
Vlad Putin is a regular visitor of the Greek Orthodox monasteries at Agio oros (holy moyntain - Athos) Mount Athos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ι can count many more .. but the real reason is that Putins Russia today is the only country that gives a break to the totalitarianism of the wolf pack of NATO..

Interesting. So Finland and Greece has in common this relation to Russia, being between east and west. I think that it is a real gift to be so close to two different cultures. Even though I hate current Russian politics, I love their culture and people.

 

[Akim]

@arpakola
Won't even comment. Why is it always, as you open your mouth for me to puke pulls?

а ну расскажи мне что ты там видел из соседней страны.
ну вот я, коренной Дончанин, родился и вырос в Донецке, мои родители тоже.
я сейчас в Донецке, видел как работал град рядом с моим домом (от этого загорелась посадка кстати) потом видел куда эти снаряды приземлились, они приземлились в центре города.
теперь расскажи мне что я тут видел по твоей версии

Штурм Донецкого Аэропорта - Страница 41 - Донецк Форум. Донецкий форум.

 

[arpakola]

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Interesting. So Finland and Greece has in common this relation to Russia, being between east and west. I think that it is a real gift to be so close to two different cultures. Even though I hate current Russian politics, I love their culture and people.

Comparing them with NATO politics are Angels..

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Greek island of Spetses..



In Spetses there are the grand- grand children of Alexei Grigoryevich Orlov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Grigoryevich_Orlov
The Russian Admiral was in close cooperation with the Ship owner Bouboulina that participated in the revolution with her fleet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskarina_Bouboulina

Laskarina Bouboulina (Greek: Λασκαρίνα Μπουμπουλίνα, pronounced ), 11 May 1771 – 22 May 1825) was a Greek naval commander, heroine of the Greek War of Independence in 1821, and an Admiral of the Imperial Russian Navy.

(so the Greek - Russian relation is endless..)

 

[Akim]

 

[jouni]

Tuomioja, Lavrov agree to disagree on Ukraine | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi

Finnish foreign minister visited Moscow, my opinion: should have stayed at home. Finnish media speculate that Russia has achieved all it's goals in Ukraine; Country is destabilized for years. Now Russia can start to try to bring trade relations back to normal with EU. My view; more sanctions, EU cannot give Russia the message that it's actions are acceptable.

 

[pmaitra]

Tuomioja, Lavrov agree to disagree on Ukraine | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi

Finnish foreign minister visited Moscow, my opinion: should have stayed at home. Finnish media speculate that Russia has achieved all it's goals in Ukraine; Country is destabilized for years. Now Russia can start to try to bring trade relations back to normal with EU. My view; more sanctions, EU cannot give Russia the message that it's actions are acceptable.

I disagree with your opinion.

The EU and US destabilized Ukraine. Whatever Russia did was in response. So more sanctions against Russia because the US and EU chose to destabilize Ukraine? Bizarre.

 

[pmaitra]

Olga Kovitdi was threatened in the days before the Crimean referendum by unknown, but not so difficult to speculate, persons.

 

[Akim]

 

[pmaitra]

The chocolate seller wants to change the boundaries of the Lugansk region. What a clown. On the other hand, Igor Kolmoisky funded Kiev regime battalion threatens action against Kolmoisky for the losses they suffered and for alleged betrayal.

 

[Akim]

The chocolate seller wants to change the boundaries of the Lugansk region. What a clown.

Were you able to read to end ? There are many villages and towns, which cannot be financed because towns regional value, remained of the occupier. Budget is distributed as follows: city of regional significance (Lugansk , temporarily Severodonetsk) allocate money for the entire region, then they are distributed to cities and towns on the diagram below. If the town regional value is occupied, there the money is not coming, so in the liberated towns and villages, people for 3-4 months do not receive money. Border Luhansk region will remain the same.

 

[arpakola]

clava clava clava... Banderastan

 

[arpakola]

Were you able to read to end ? There are many villages and towns, which cannot be financed because towns regional value, remained of the occupier. Budget is distributed as follows: city of regional significance (Lugansk , temporarily Severodonetsk) allocate money for the entire region, then they are distributed to cities and towns on the diagram below. If the town regional value is occupied, there the money is not coming, so in the liberated towns and villages, people for 3-4 months do not receive money. Border Luhansk region will remain the same.

bla bla bla bla.. characteristic of guilty losers..

Батальон Коломойского грозится отомстить ему за потери на фронте - Первый по срочным новостям — LIFE | NEWS
Батальон Коломойского грозится отомстить ему за потери на фронтеСолдаты обвиняют своего покровителя в том, что "они умирают ни за что".

Были стойкие истинные арийцы, были трубачи, и песни, и марши, и крики "Германия превыше всего" И были ненависть и желание убивать...
Только не нужно забывать, чем это все закончилось...

Made in USSR - Азбука юного бандеровца - цинк

PS. Собственно, одна из главных причин нынешней фашистской вакханалии, это многолетняя системная работа по воспитанию молодых поколений жителей Украины в ненависти к России, Советскому Союзу и русским как таковым. Россия этот момент пустила на самотек, предоставив американцам возможность фактически безнаказанно лепить через систему образования и СМИ будущих "алярмиков", трупы которых потом были разбросаны на полях Донбасса. В Сети появилось видео, в котором один из бойцов подразделения высказывает свои претензии в адрес Коломойского.

– Господин Коломойский, хочу обратиться к вам, так как вы создавали наш 20-й батальон. Нас здесь убивают! Мы хотим знать, почему нас бросили! Представителей командования нет! Здесь остались только рядовые бойцы. Связываться можно только по мобильному телефону. Ð’Ñ‹ хотите повторения Иловайска? Ð’Ñ‹ хотите, чтобы мы здесь умерли? Прекратите нас предавать! Мы же вернемся с оружием в Днепропетровск, Павлоград, Синельниково. И с каждого из вас будет спрос: за что мы сдыхаем, – говорится в заявлении.

Также солдат подчеркнул, что им противостоят не «алкоголики, наркоманы и террористы» (как объясняло положение дел командование ВСУ), а боеспособная армия, которой легковооруженному батальону нечем ответить.

– Мы тупо здесь умираем ни за что. Где ваше обещание, что мы будем служить в Днепропетровской области? – признается военнослужащий.

Боец 20-ого батальона подчеркнул, что вина за гибель «брошенных» солдат останется на совести Коломойского.

Считается, что Коломойский причастен к финансированию добровольческих батальонов территориальной обороны «Азов», «Айдар», «Днепр», а также содержит полк национальной защиты Днепропетровской области. Эти подразделения не подчиняются командованию ВСУ, а отвечают сугубо перед своим покровителем. Именно нацгвардейцы оказались запертыми в Иловайском котле, многие из них попали в плен.

Также наемники Коломойского «славятся» своей жестокостью. Так, неподалеку от 22-й шахты «Коммунарка» у села Нижняя Крынка ополченцы обнаружили несколько захоронений убитых мирных жителей. С людьми обошлись бесчеловечно, у многих тел руки связаны за спиной. Предположительно, людей расстреляли бойцы батальона «Айдар», которые покинули эту территорию несколько дней назад. Также неподалеку было найдено тело беременной женщины, убитой выстрелом в голову.

Также бойцы армии ЛНР в зоне отдыха, в 10 километрах от Луганска, обнаружили труп мирной жительницы. Судя по всему, занимавшие эту территорию силовики из того же «Айдара» пытали ее, избили, а потом утопили в местном водоеме. Кроме того, ополченцы подозревают, что при отступлении «айдаровцы» бросали и добивали своих же бойцов – они обнаружили сильно обезображенный труп одного из них на территории гольф-клуба.

 

[Akim]

clava clava clava... Banderastan

Are you for us, don't worry. Their debts give to the world. How much does Greece have? Нищеброды.