China's first indigenous carrier CV17

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No.. Only 4.5 years.. The life of a ship is considered since its keel laying and not since its steel is cut.
As such, Vikrant's keel was laid in 2009 and was launched in 2013.
the only thing I'm not sure about is if it can carry 36 aircrafts even with a smaller island, I personally believe 32 is the most likely.
 

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the only thing I'm not sure about is if it can carry 36 aircrafts even with a smaller island, I personally believe 32 is the most likely.
It'll be even lower if you consider optimum sortie generation capacity. Something like 24-28( 18-22 fixed and 6-10 heli). Limiting factors are the huge J15 and lift capacity of only 1 aircraft by both lifts.

Starboard side can park no more than 10(8+2on lift) and port side only 2 ( not sure) when launching and arresting simultaneously.
 
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the standard carrier-based aircraft fleet size of Type001/CV-16 is always 36 (24 J-15+12 helicopters)...

the chief commander of Type002/CV-17 from ship building industry claimed that the new carrier could carry 36 J-15 in the CCTV interview of this August. but we thought there was some misapprehension.

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the standard carrier-based aircraft fleet size of Type001/CV-16 is always 36 (24 J-15+12 helicopters)...

the chief commander of Type002/CV-17 from ship building industry claimed that the new carrier could carry 36 J-15 in the CCTV interview of this August. but we thought there was some misapprehension.

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'Could' is different from 'would'.
There's a difference between nominal capacity and operational numbers.
I don't think i have ever seen more than 14 on deck even when exclusively arresting and not launching.
Nimitz 'could' carry 90 but carries about 70.
 

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36(24+12) is the operation number for Type001/CV16... no doubt...this is stipulated in the technical specifications document of this Project.

what you saw means nothing here coz what you can 'see' is very very 'little'...
 

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36(24+12) is the operation number for Type001/CV16... no doubt...this is stipulated in the technical specifications document of this Project.

what you saw means nothing here coz what you can 'see' is very very 'little'...
The only place they can park aircraft is on deck or in hangar. Unless, the chinese tow an extra barge behind the carrier, it'll be hard to sustain more than 24-26 J15 on that carrier for long.
Constraints are quite public to understand this.
While arresting, only forward stations are allowed to launch, which limit payload and therefore Sortie duration. For increased sortie duration, one will have to launch from extended station and shut down landing operations which again will limit sustained flight operations for any more than 24-26 aircraft.
Sure it can enable a 32-40 aircraft airwing for a single sortie each, but turnaround will be a nightmare.
Add to that , J15's footprint is way more than that of a F18e. There are only 2 lifts on shandong, each can only lift 1 J15 each.
All I'm saying, it can carry 32 J15 for surges but will usually carry only 24.
 

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J15's footprint is way more than that of a F18e
Yes but it isn't much different than a Rafale that can't close its wings. CdG has no problem operating 30+ Rafale from the carrier including two massive E-2C Hawkeyes.


The Shandong has been engineered for more hanger and deck space as opposed to the Liaoning, it shouldn't be much of a problem when you see how tight the J-15's wings fold.

 

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Why doesn't China have any J-15 on the carriers? Is it because of issues with design and quality or is there a new fighter in the works?
 

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