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[Kunal Biswas]

What are the other mid range missile China use nowadays???

Type of Chinese Missiles..

Details:
Second Artillery Corps (China) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[J20!]

There are two full size models od the Z8 and the J15 on the ex-Varyag's deck forflight deck crew trainning, they aren't actual aircraft.

 

[J20!]

Are you saying the DF41 is a Topol M copy?
All the systems China has reverse engineered, have been operated by the armed forces. How do you copy something you have no access to?
Why would Russia give China access to its premier land mobile ICBM? It cant tranfer nuclear delivery systems can it now?
And last, China has been developing the DF41 since 1986, before the Topol M was completed.

Janes extract:
"DF-41 (CSS-X-10) (China), Offensive weapons



Type
Inter-continental range, road/rail mobile, solid propellant, single warhead or MIRV-capable ballistic missile.

Development
The Chinese are believed to have started the design and development of the Dong Feng-41 (DF-41) in 1986, with the operational requirement to have a solid-propellant, road mobile, ballistic missile with a range in excess of 12,000 km to replace the CSS-4 (DF-5 and DF-5A) liquid-propellant missiles. The development for DF-41 is believed to be managed by the China Aerospace Sciences and Industry Corporation (CASIC), Beijing (it was the First Academy of the Ministry of Aerospace Industries). The flight test programme is managed by the 2nd Artillery Corps, based at the Wuzhai test centre in Shanxi province. There was one reported ground test and a simulated cold launch in October 1999, but no test flights have been reported, although a test was reported to have been in preparation in September 2001. Original reports stated that DF-41 used the first two stages of the DF-31, with a lengthened third stage, but it is now believed that this description referred to the DF-31A, and that the DF-41 is a new design. It is believed that the NATO designator is CSS-X-10. Reports in 1996 suggested that DF-41 would have between two and nine Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) warheads, but it is possible that the initial build missiles will have provision for either a single warhead or up to 10 MIRV. In 2001 both rail-car and cross-country Transporter-Erector-Launcher (TEL) projects were noted for DF-31, and it is presumed that these might also be adapted later for DF-41. "

I'll say it again, you ccant look at two pictures and say one is a copy of the other, let alone ballistic nuclear ICBM's

 

[nimo_cn]

Are you saying the DF41 is a Topol M copy?
All the systems China has reverse engineered, have been operated by the armed forces. How do you copy something you have no access to?
Why would Russia give China access to its premier land mobile ICBM? It cant tranfer nuclear delivery systems can it now?
And last, China has been developing the DF41 since 1986, before the Topol M was completed.

Janes extract:
"DF-41 (CSS-X-10) (China), Offensive weapons



Type
Inter-continental range, road/rail mobile, solid propellant, single warhead or MIRV-capable ballistic missile.

Development
The Chinese are believed to have started the design and development of the Dong Feng-41 (DF-41) in 1986, with the operational requirement to have a solid-propellant, road mobile, ballistic missile with a range in excess of 12,000 km to replace the CSS-4 (DF-5 and DF-5A) liquid-propellant missiles. The development for DF-41 is believed to be managed by the China Aerospace Sciences and Industry Corporation (CASIC), Beijing (it was the First Academy of the Ministry of Aerospace Industries). The flight test programme is managed by the 2nd Artillery Corps, based at the Wuzhai test centre in Shanxi province. There was one reported ground test and a simulated cold launch in October 1999, but no test flights have been reported, although a test was reported to have been in preparation in September 2001. Original reports stated that DF-41 used the first two stages of the DF-31, with a lengthened third stage, but it is now believed that this description referred to the DF-31A, and that the DF-41 is a new design. It is believed that the NATO designator is CSS-X-10. Reports in 1996 suggested that DF-41 would have between two and nine Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) warheads, but it is possible that the initial build missiles will have provision for either a single warhead or up to 10 MIRV. In 2001 both rail-car and cross-country Transporter-Erector-Launcher (TEL) projects were noted for DF-31, and it is presumed that these might also be adapted later for DF-41. "

I'll say it again, you ccant look at two pictures and say one is a copy of the other, let alone ballistic nuclear ICBM's

Apparently, in our Indian friends minds, anything Chinese build is a copy as long as it shares resemblance with western weapon system, even if that resemblance is inevitable, like all the missiles share the same cylinder shape. Obviously, Chinese can't invent a rectangular missile, that would be something original. Therefore, let us just live with the copycat title.

 

[LTE-TDD]

The only word this guy knows of is "copy".

Since you will never be able to bring sense to this man, you might as well give up wasting time on teaching the "unteachable".

because he is copied from somewhere, haha!

 

[LTE-TDD]

Apparently, in our Indian friends minds, anything Chinese build is a copy as long as it shares resemblance with western weapon system, even if that resemblance is inevitable, like all the missiles share the same cylinder shape. Obviously, Chinese can't invent a rectangular missile, that would be something original. Therefore, let us just live with the copycat title.

They are really worried by this copycat, let's them continue to worry.

 

[LTE-TDD]

Are you saying the DF41 is a Topol M copy?
All the systems China has reverse engineered, have been operated by the armed forces. How do you copy something you have no access to?
Why would Russia give China access to its premier land mobile ICBM? It cant tranfer nuclear delivery systems can it now?
And last, China has been developing the DF41 since 1986, before the Topol M was completed.

Janes extract:
"DF-41 (CSS-X-10) (China), Offensive weapons



Type
Inter-continental range, road/rail mobile, solid propellant, single warhead or MIRV-capable ballistic missile.

Development
The Chinese are believed to have started the design and development of the Dong Feng-41 (DF-41) in 1986, with the operational requirement to have a solid-propellant, road mobile, ballistic missile with a range in excess of 12,000 km to replace the CSS-4 (DF-5 and DF-5A) liquid-propellant missiles. The development for DF-41 is believed to be managed by the China Aerospace Sciences and Industry Corporation (CASIC), Beijing (it was the First Academy of the Ministry of Aerospace Industries). The flight test programme is managed by the 2nd Artillery Corps, based at the Wuzhai test centre in Shanxi province. There was one reported ground test and a simulated cold launch in October 1999, but no test flights have been reported, although a test was reported to have been in preparation in September 2001. Original reports stated that DF-41 used the first two stages of the DF-31, with a lengthened third stage, but it is now believed that this description referred to the DF-31A, and that the DF-41 is a new design. It is believed that the NATO designator is CSS-X-10. Reports in 1996 suggested that DF-41 would have between two and nine Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) warheads, but it is possible that the initial build missiles will have provision for either a single warhead or up to 10 MIRV. In 2001 both rail-car and cross-country Transporter-Erector-Launcher (TEL) projects were noted for DF-31, and it is presumed that these might also be adapted later for DF-41. "

I'll say it again, you ccant look at two pictures and say one is a copy of the other, let alone ballistic nuclear ICBM's

Looks like all countries are open their weapon warehouse to China to copy. I really wonder why they did not open to their democratic friend India. Dear india friend, could you explain to me?

 

[nimo_cn]

They are really worried by this copycat, let's them continue to worry.

I am just amused to read some of their comments.

How could they determine it is a copy of Russian missile without a look at the actual missile? We can't see the missile, all we can see is a cylinder shell which contains a missile. The only information people can get from that picture is the size of the missile, and the shape of the missile. It is big and cylindrical, does that make it a copy of Russian missile? Maybe, Russian missiles are always big and cylindrical.

 

[J20!]

Type of Chinese Missiles..

Details:
Second Artillery Corps (China) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The DF5, DF41, DF31 and the JL2 are all Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles they're not mid-range ballistic missiles. and development of the DF25 was stopped, it never entered service.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Utter copy of the Russian Topol missile, this is disgusting to the say the least. Even the Dogfang missile truck looks like a copy of the Russian one.

 

[JayATL]

I'm no Chinese fan and people here can attest to it. But these comments by other Indians here is frankly IDIOTIC!

It's one thing to copy a missile it's another to steal the technology. If they copy a design on the exterior but achieve success on the the interior independently w/o stealing. Then you must laud their achievement. You may copy a design here and there but if the technology to ' drive it' is theirs - then it is commendable.

You lose creditability when you bitch at the Chinese over such things.

 

[Illusive]

So this must be a MIRV, how many MIRV missiles operational with China right now?

 

[J20!]

Utter copy of the Russian Topol missile, this is disgusting to the say the least. Even the Dogfang missile truck looks like a copy of the Russian one.

Let us know when you actually have something to contribute to the discussion.

 

[J20!]

So this must be a MIRV, how many MIRV missiles operational with China right now?

No one knows, and those who do are tight lipped about it. Of China's ICBM's, experts speculate that the DF5A, the DF31A and the JL2 are equipped with multiple re-entry vehicles. Janes says this about the DF41: B[]"Reports in 1996 suggested that DF-41 would have between two and nine Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) warheads, but it is possible that the initial build missiles will have provision for either a single warhead or up to 10 MIRV."[/B] That does make sense considering the missile it replaces, (DF5A) is said to be MRIV equipped.

 

[sayareakd]

hay can we use your AC to test our plane ??? we have years of experience to operate AC unlike China.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Copying Russian technology is as commendably as copying from the next guys paper in Exams and getting as much marks as him. Sure you get marks but your a cheat.

 

[J20!]

hay can we use your AC to test our plane ??? we have years of experience to operate AC unlike China.

Yes, operating a STOVL carrier with no actual tail hook landings...

 

[J20!]

Copying Russian technology is as commendably as copying from the next guys paper in Exams and getting as much marks as him. Sure you get marks but your a cheat.

Can you prove its a copy? No, I bet you cant. Can you tell us how the Second Artillery Corp somehow got actual samples of Topol M, one of Russia's newest ICBM's? Can you tell us how the DF41 is somehow a copy of the Topol M considering that its development began in 1986 when THERE WAS NO TOPOL M? Jealousy will get you no-where...

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Can you prove its a copy? No, I bet you cant. Can you tell us how the Second Artillery Corp somehow got actual samples of Topol M, one of Russia's newest ICBM's? Can you tell us how the DF41 is somehow a copy of the Topol M considering that its development began in 1986 when THERE WAS NO TOPOL M? Jealousy will get you no-where...

This is not jelousy t, everything you make is a copy. The J-11 is the Su-30 even your army personal carrier is a cheap look a like of the hummer. You copy everything shamelessly and ask for proof? Even copy a indian bike like Pulsar and call it Gulsar. Yes it is all original.

 

[Illusive]

No one knows, and those who do are tight lipped about it. Of China's ICBM's, experts speculate that the DF5A, the DF31A and the JL2 are equipped with multiple re-entry vehicles. Janes says this about the DF41: "Reports in 1996 suggested that DF-41 would have between two and nine Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) warheads, but it is possible that the initial build missiles will have provision for either a single warhead or up to 10 MIRV." That does make sense considering the missile it replaces, (DF5A) is said to be MRIV equipped.

Well DF-5 and DF-25 has more probability of having MIRV by looking at the design(red part) , but i doubt DF 31 n JL2, they are very narrow to me to have MIRV.